# 2011 NFL Draft **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 9, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786 "2011-04-09T17:34:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/181 "2011-04-28T16:34:20Z")
Any word from the league about the trading of players yet? I know there was some confusion with the lifting of the lockout and what exactly that meant as far as player movement. Sure would be nice if the Eagles could move Kolb. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/182 "2011-04-28T16:59:46Z")
[Rick Gosselin’s final mock](http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=403457) Certainly goes against most people’s projections, but he’s made a name for himself being pretty decent at draft prediction. The QB rush is crazy. The Lions putting Fairley next to Suh would be kind of redonkulous. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/183 "2011-04-28T17:45:04Z")
Rumors that Atlanta wants to trade up to take AJ Green… ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/184 "2011-04-28T18:04:46Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > How do you guys feel about AJ Green relative to other receiving prospects in recent years? I don’t hear the sort of excitement in terms of “Best WR prospect since \_\_\_\_\_!” associated with him very much, but everyone still seems to think he’s a top 6 pick. He’s supposed to have epic hands, so I guess that alone would be a pleasant change for the Browns. > > I’m starting to think one or the other Cincinatti is going to fuck up the draft for the Browns. Decent chance they take Green themselves. I’ve heard a handful of people say he’s the best WR prospect since Calvin Johnson, but he’s not the physical specimen that Megatron is. Green is more if a polished product, he’s not the biggest, fastest or strongest prospect we’ve seen but he’s one of the most complete and NFL ready. He’ll run better routes and do all the subtle things it takes to be a great WR. However, Julio Jones looks like he’s every bit the talent that Green is. He doesn’t have Green’s hands but he’s more athletic and he’s an elite run blocker and A+ locker room/character guy. If you’re convinced that Green is the pick for the Browns then I think you should be equally gung-ho for Jones as a fall back with the Browns pick. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/185 "2011-04-28T18:11:41Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > [Rick Gosselin’s final mock](http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=403457) > > Certainly goes against most people’s projections, but he’s made a name for himself being pretty decent at draft prediction. The QB rush is crazy. The Lions putting Fairley next to Suh would be kind of redonkulous. Looks like a 4 year olds Mock draft. It makes no sense and is riddled with misspellings. He’s got the top three teams drafting players that are terrible scheme fits, no way Denver picks Miller over Dareus. The last thing the Cardinals need is a CB, Detroit isn’t grabbing an second 3 technique and the Rams aren’t wasting a first rounder on a backup RB. Yuck. Just under 6 hours till the draft! Woo. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/186 "2011-04-28T19:28:25Z")
I’m a bit pissed I’ll be on the road for the first round and without computer the rest of the time. I enjoy the draft live. But I’ll check in from time to time to share my baseless opinions and dumbass projections. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/187 "2011-04-28T19:31:08Z")
[McShay](http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/insider/news/story?page=mcshayfullmockdraft) and [Kiper](http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/insider/news/story?page=KiperMockDraft5.0) have updated their final Mock Drafts today. There seems to be a consensus developing amongst the top 4 picks. They both, in addition to **Beef’s** link above, have Newton going to Carolina, Miller to Denver, Dareus to Buffalo and Green to Cincy. I understand the Newton pick, I disagree with it but it’s starting to seem like a sure thing. The Miller and Dareus picks however are a bit baffling. Miller isn’t suited to a 4-3 and that’s what Denver will be running. People think he’s an elite player who you build a system around but that’s a hell of a gamble if he turns out to be a bust, I don’t see any way where he has a major impact as either a 4-3 DE or a Sam/Will LB. Dareus is the best player on the board for the Bills, so I guess I can see the logic and they certainly don’t need a CB in Peterson here but he’s another guy who’d be marginalized by being moved from a 3 technique to a 5 in that scheme. Ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/188 "2011-04-28T19:32:34Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I’m a bit pissed I’ll be on the road for the first round and without computer the rest of the time. I enjoy the draft live. But I’ll check in from time to time to share my baseless opinions and dumbass projections. Where the hell you gonna be, the moon? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/189 "2011-04-28T19:37:51Z")
**Hamlet** , food for thought, you might be missing the last bit of actual football for 6, 8 or maybe even 12 months. Think about that. Are you sure you aren’t coming down with a bout of explosive diarrhea or something to postpone this excursion? ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/190 "2011-04-28T19:41:09Z")
I’ll be working during all three days and won’t see a minute of it. Yay. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/191 "2011-04-28T20:14:43Z")
Rick Gosselin has the highest 5 year average in the [Mock Draft scorer thingamabob](http://www.thehuddlereport.com/Free/mockdraftscoring.shtml) so I’m what seems to be an unconventional mock draft some credibility. Really, when you think about it, all of the mock drafts just sort of copy off each other as to not look too radical. There are only really minor tweaks between them. If those really do match the draft boards for teams, that would mean the mockers are all super accurate and all reached the same conclusion. If mock drafts were really the result of independent experts who were pretty good but not perfect, they’d vary more. I do wonder how much all of the draft experts and the mock drafts actually influence who teams pick. Could teams shy away from guys sometimes because they’re worried their fans think they drafted them half a round too high because that’s what all the mocks say? Could they let a guy slip away because they thought he’d be there later because the mocks were down on him while the real NFL teams weren’t? Incidentally Kiper, Gosselin, Abromowitz, McCrystal and Fronczak, all top 8, all agree the top 5 will contain Newton/Miller/Dareus/Green/Peterson, and all 5 have the Browns going Julio Jones ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/192 "2011-04-28T20:21:11Z")
Actually, not only do they have all of those players as the top 5, but they actually have them in the same order. So they all agree on the top 6: 1. Newton 2. Miller 3. Dareus 4. Green 5. Peterson 6. Jones ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/193 "2011-04-28T20:25:05Z")
All those damn mocks have Gabbert going to the 49ers. Why? If that happens, fuck. I might just to have to start watcning either the Raiders, or whomever picks Kaepernick. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/194 "2011-04-28T23:27:13Z")
Just about there…30 minutes until the Panthers submarine their franchise for a half decade. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/195 "2011-04-28T23:28:46Z")
Should we do a separate live draft thread? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/196 "2011-04-28T23:33:57Z")
Nah. There’ll be a post draft thread come Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/197 "2011-04-28T23:53:28Z")
Plus I get the impression that half the hard core football geeks are MIA tonight. Count me as one person who really wishes they’d get rid of this new draft set up. Move it all back to Saturday and Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/198 "2011-04-29T00:03:47Z")
Looks like Cam is going first. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/199 "2011-04-29T00:04:08Z")
I’d like the first round on Friday primetime, and then the rest over the weekend. I’m so exited, this is an unpredictable draft. I’m hearing buzz that Von Miller might be tne one that falls past #6. Listen to those boos. And it’s Cam Newton first. ---
**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/200 "2011-04-29T00:04:55Z")
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