# 2011 NFL Draft

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 9, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786 "2011-04-09T17:34:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/361 "2011-04-29T03:41:53Z")

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Love the trade up for Ingram. Saints are serious about running the ball again.

**WHO DAT!**

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/362 "2011-04-29T03:41:54Z")

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So is Ryan Mallett a giant headcase or something?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/363 "2011-04-29T03:43:49Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> So is Ryan Mallett a giant headcase or something?

Pretty much, yeah. I think some team is going to get a major steal tomorrow. Might be interesting to see San Fran take a shot with him under Harbaugh.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/364 "2011-04-29T03:44:16Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> So is Ryan Mallett a giant headcase or something?

He’s a giant coke-headcase

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/365 "2011-04-29T03:46:02Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> What an impending disaster! Did no one in Carolina watch Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell?
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> ETA: …and my Mock is officially belly up.

EXACTLY!!! Could SOMEONE, ANYONE, explain to me how Newton WILL NOT be a MASSIVE trainwreck?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/366 "2011-04-29T03:47:07Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Love the trade up for Ingram. Saints are serious about running the ball again.
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> **WHO DAT!**

If you like slow guys who are always hurt, then yeah, Who Dat. Actually, he’s a perfect fit for Nawlins, he’ll get along with the guys they have great in the trainers room.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/367 "2011-04-29T03:49:43Z")

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Who’s left in the Green Room?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/368 "2011-04-29T03:50:02Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> He’s a giant coke-headcase

Not coke, but he’s got a massive ego. He’s a prick and a half.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/369 "2011-04-29T04:12:29Z")

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Reggie Bush just tweeted “It’s been fun New Orleans”. Guess that clears that up.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/370 "2011-04-29T04:45:39Z")

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Scoop on the Bears-Ravens fiasco.

[http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/04/bears\_attempted\_to\_move\_up\_to.html](http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/04/bears_attempted_to_move_up_to.html)

Wonder what the cock-up saved us, what’s the price to move from 29 to 26? Probably would have cost us a 4th rounder at least I imagine and we’ll need that pick. Glad it still worked out and we got our guy. The Ravens were involved in that Vikings screw up a couple years back too, Angelo is taking the blame but you have to wonder if it’s a Ravens thing.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/371 "2011-04-29T04:51:37Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Hehehe. Sherrod is going to be a revolving door. I really hope to see him trying to handle Peppers this year.

Seeing as how Peppers didn’t record a sack against the Packers this year, any sack, even a half sack, will be an improvement.

Remind me again, which team won the NFC Championship and the super Bowl lasy year?

Oh. That’s right.

You got the guy you wanted for the Bears. I got the guy I wanted for the Packers. Now we’ll just have to see what the future holds.

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**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/372 "2011-04-29T04:56:10Z")

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I’m a 'Bama fan that doesn’t follow pro football much. What’s the deal with the Saints and Reggie Bush?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/373 "2011-04-29T05:22:13Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Seeing as how Peppers didn’t record a sack against the Packers this year, any sack, even a half sack, will be an improvement.

I never said Clifton sucked. The tape on Sherrod isn’t particularly compelling.

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> You got the guy you wanted for the Bears. I got the guy I wanted for the Packers. Now we’ll just have to see what the future holds.

I spent the last hour or so looking at YouTube clips of Carimi and I have a little bit of a chubby. They guy goes forward like a man and might actually make this team competent around the goal line. It would be interesting if we were able to pair him with Moffitt in say the 4th round.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/374 "2011-04-29T05:33:27Z")

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> [@Rucksinator](#):
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> I’m a 'Bama fan that doesn’t follow pro football much. What’s the deal with the Saints and Reggie Bush?

Bush is due a ton of money from the Saints in the final year of his massive first contract as the #2 overall pick. He’s constantly injured and while incredibly dynamic in the Saints unique offense when on the field he’s not worth the price . Had the Saints not drafted a RB he probably would have renegotiated his contract for less money since both team and player wanted to stay together to their mutual benefit, Ingram almost certainly will prove to be a cheaper and marginally more reliable option which means Bush will be cut and shopping his services elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/375 "2011-04-29T05:50:01Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Scoop on the Bears-Ravens fiasco.
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> [http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/04/bears\_attempted\_to\_move\_up\_to.html](http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/04/bears_attempted_to_move_up_to.html)
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> Wonder what the cock-up saved us, what’s the price to move from 29 to 26? Probably would have cost us a 4th rounder at least I imagine and we’ll need that pick. Glad it still worked out and we got our guy. The Ravens were involved in that Vikings screw up a couple years back too, Angelo is taking the blame but you have to wonder if it’s a Ravens thing.

Here’s the scoop in more detail.

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>
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Apparently this is another in a long line of bumbling and indecision from the Bears front office. Jerry can’t retire soon enough, sadly Ruskell’s addition didn’t seem to improve matters in this case. Thankfully the Bears screw up worked to their advantage for a change, losing that 4th rounder would have stung quite a bit considering the number of needs and the depth at certain positions.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/376 "2011-04-29T06:58:44Z")

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Well, the Eagles picked up Danny Watkins. I hear he’s 27.

I didn’t hear anything about this guy pre draft, and it seemed like he generated no buzz. So in a way I’m disappointed. I don’t know anything about the guy other than, a) he’s old, b) he was a firefighter, and c) Howard Mudd loves him. And in Howard I trust, so good on us. Even if we probably could have swung a deal in round two to move up and get him.

Here’s hoping there’s still a way to get a good corner on this roster. And that Mudd can turn Winston Justice into an above average tackle instead of just an average one. In Mudd I trust. In Mudd I trust…

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/377 "2011-04-29T10:13:45Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> Well, the Eagles picked up Danny Watkins. I hear he’s 27.
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> I didn’t hear anything about this guy pre draft, and it seemed like he generated no buzz. So in a way I’m disappointed. I don’t know anything about the guy other than, a) he’s old, b) he was a firefighter, and c) Howard Mudd loves him. And in Howard I trust, so good on us. Even if we probably could have swung a deal in round two to move up and get him.
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> Here’s hoping there’s still a way to get a good corner on this roster. And that Mudd can turn Winston Justice into an above average tackle instead of just an average one. In Mudd I trust. In Mudd I trust…

Watkins was one of the most common projections for the Bears pick in the last round of Mocks that came out after the top of the draft started to take shape. He got his fair share of talk and it’s not really a surprise that he came off the board in the first round once we saw how early Pouncey was picked. You left out that he’s Canadian though.

Not coincidentally, Carimi was a very common projection for the Eagles pick. That the Bears and Eagles essentially flip flopped selections is logical, I suspect each team got the guy they had rated higher as a result. Hopefully the Bears were right.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/378 "2011-04-29T10:14:28Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Here’s the scoop in more detail.
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> [http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/bears/cbsports-bears-gm-on-failed-trade-with-ravens-it-was-a-glitch-on-our-part-20110428,0,720892.story](http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/bears/cbsports-bears-gm-on-failed-trade-with-ravens-it-was-a-glitch-on-our-part-20110428,0,720892.story)
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> Apparently this is another in a long line of bumbling and indecision from the Bears front office. Jerry can’t retire soon enough, sadly Ruskell’s addition didn’t seem to improve matters in this case. Thankfully the Bears screw up worked to their advantage for a change, losing that 4th rounder would have stung quite a bit considering the number of needs and the depth at certain positions.

It’s unfathomable to me how a team can miss their draft pick or muck this stuff up.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/379 "2011-04-29T13:01:21Z")

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The Bengals got the best offensive player in the draft! WOOT!

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/380 "2011-04-29T14:34:34Z")

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I keep hoping my Steelers will beef up the O-line. Oddly, Thomlin isn’t taking my calls regarding my opinion on this.

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