# 2011 NFL Draft **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 9, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786 "2011-04-09T17:34:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/421 "2011-04-29T22:28:23Z")
Those QBs are really 3rd-4th round guys QBs who are only going so high because of the crazy run on QBs in the first, right? Son of a bitch, Bowers must be a cripple. Btw, Bengals were offered the same deal from Atlanta but chose Green instead. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/422 "2011-04-29T22:29:25Z")
Last year ESPN blogger Mike Sando seemed to have all the picks before anybody else, sometime by minutes. What kind of triple-checking does Godell insist on, cause he’s really slow up there at the podium. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/423 "2011-04-29T22:29:45Z")
I like Sheard a lot, but not quite this soon. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/424 "2011-04-29T22:33:26Z")
Cardinals take RB, huh? Larry Fitzgerald must be pounding his head against the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/425 "2011-04-29T22:33:29Z")
Cardinals draft Ryan Williams. Bye bye Beanie. ETA: I think the delay for Goddelll has to do with coordinating these former players doing the announcements. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/426 "2011-04-29T22:35:17Z")
Mike Sando is indeed all over it on the ESPN. com chat. AKeem Ayers to TEN. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/427 "2011-04-29T22:36:09Z")
Ayers to the Titans. It’s weird having the picks before TV. Ayers is a great pick. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/428 "2011-04-29T22:40:44Z")
I like the Ayers pick a lot, I wanted him for the Packers. I also think Whisenhunt is insane. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/429 "2011-04-29T22:41:31Z")
Jesus, already know the next pick. Carter to the Boys, practically before they announced the last pick. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/430 "2011-04-29T22:43:05Z")
Mallett to the Skins now? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/431 "2011-04-29T22:43:52Z")
Mallett to the Skins maybe? Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/432 "2011-04-29T22:46:20Z")
Nope ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/433 "2011-04-29T22:51:45Z")
Has there been a QB in this draft that wasn’t a reach? I mean, relative to each other it doesn’t look so bad because all the QBs are being reached for - but if you looked in them in isolation - and all you knew was that Dalton and Kaerpernick both went at the top of round 2, Ponder went 12, etc… they’re all clear reaches, right? Edit: I guess Gabbert based on consensus but I don’t think he was ever worth top 10 consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/434 "2011-04-29T22:53:30Z")
Don’t understand that Texans pick. They already have Connor Barwin and Brian Cushing, might need to move Mario Williams back too after drafting Watt. Weird pick. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoltEater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheBoltEater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBoltEater)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/435 "2011-04-29T22:54:00Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > My pet peeve of the draft is fans, and even analysts who really should know better, talking about teams “trading down.” Before the draft a GM might think that there is no one likely to be available at their draft spot that the team needs who warrants being picked that high, and will sacrifice quality for quantity of draft picks. > > This does not happen during the draft. I’m sure Minnesota didn’t feel that they needed to pull the trigger on Christian Ponder at #12, but they couldn’t call 31 other teams and try to negotiate a deal to move down. Teams don’t trade down - other teams trade up. Cleveland, when they got on the clock at pick #6, didn’t pick up the phone and happen to call Atlanta first and start horse-trading. Atlanta saw their opportunity and called Cleveland and made an offer. Maybe they negotiated for a minute or two, but I’ll bet the original offer was pretty close to what Cleveland ended up with. > > That said, you just know tonight you’re going to hear “Team X really likes player Y, but he’ll be available ten picks from now. They should trade down.” GAH! The message board era has really made this a lot worse than it used to be. In 1990, you took a guy and fans said, “Hey, just the position we needed - good pick!” In 2011 you make the same pick and it’s, “OH NOES! WE COULD’VE GOTTEN THAT GUY 4 PICKS LATER! REAAAAACH!!11!11!!!” Calm down people. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/436 "2011-04-29T22:54:44Z")
Bowers must have no knee. Obviously every team checked him out and every team passed him up once. I think he’s perfect for a team like the Patriots to pick up. I wouldn’t mind him on the Lions, provided they believe he’s the best pick at that spot. There are other needs for sure, but if that’s how it’s graded, then get the best guy on your board. Man, this feels a lot like Sergio Kindle last year. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/437 "2011-04-29T22:54:59Z")
Mallett looks like a total Raider at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/438 "2011-04-29T22:56:57Z")
Vikings fill a need they don’t have and go for the TE, Kyle Rudolph. Man the Vikies are really having a terrible draft already. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/439 "2011-04-29T22:57:24Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Has there been a QB in this draft that wasn’t a reach? I mean, relative to each other it doesn’t look so bad because all the QBs are being reached for - but if you looked in them in isolation - and all you knew was that Dalton and Kaerpernick both went at the top of round 2, Ponder went 12, etc… they’re all clear reaches, right? > > Edit: I guess Gabbert based on consensus but I don’t think he was ever worth top 10 consideration. I think so, but that’s not the point. Would that person be there for their next pick? If they’re convinced he isn’t, then they have to make that pick, provided they love him and that’s what they have on their draft board. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786/440 "2011-04-29T22:57:31Z")
Even if they think Bowers won’t have a career longer than his original rookie contract, but that he has the potential to be dominant in that period, he still becomes worth a pick here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-nfl-draft/577786.md?page=23)