# 2011 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486 "2010-09-29T16:41:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/1 "2010-09-29T16:41:05Z")
Alice Cooper Beastie Boys Bon Jovi Chic Neil Diamond Donovan Dr. John J. Geils Band LL Cool J Darlene Love Laura Nyro Donna Summer Joe Tex Tom Waits Chuck Willis Who will get in? Who _will_ get in? Discuss. My votes for who should: Alice Cooper Neil Diamond Dr. John LL Cool J Darlene Love ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/2 "2010-09-29T16:51:01Z")
Laura Nyro should – influential figure in the singer/songwriter tradition. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/3 "2010-09-29T16:51:14Z")
My votes would be almost exactly opposite: Beastie Boys Tom Waits Donovan Chic Darlene Love What the hell is Laura Nyro doing on the list? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/4 "2010-09-29T16:59:52Z")
I’ve always enjoyed [Donovan](http://www.mossiehigh.com/Donovan/intro.htm). Sunshine Superman, Hurdy Gurdy Man, Mellow Yellow, Season of the Witch, Wear Your Love Like Heaven, Jennifer Juniper, etc. He was thick in the middle of R&R’s greatest years hanging with members of the Stones, Zeppelin, The Who, Cream, Moody Blues, Hendrix. Yeah, I’d like to see him in. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/5 "2010-09-29T17:08:37Z")
My guesses are: Alice Cooper Bon Jovi Chic Neil Diamond Donna Summer My hopes are: Bon Jovi Neil Diamond Donovon J. Geils Band Tom Waits ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/6 "2010-09-29T17:10:05Z")
Laura Nyro deserves it most. Then comes J. Geils, Alice Cooper, and Donovan. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/7 "2010-09-29T17:10:46Z")
Duran Duran should be on that list! ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/8 "2010-09-29T17:12:42Z")
No huge standouts on the list - an obvious one would be Alice Cooper because of his/their influence on theatricality and horror in rock and some enduring songs. I guess I would say that folks like the Beasties, LL Cool J, Donna Summer and Laura Nyro are standout artists, but not what I think of as “rock” artists, so they aren’t clean, easy Yes’s. I would go with those 4 because of the quality of their music over folks like Bon Jovi, who moved a lot of product but is more of a guilty pleasure than a Hall of Fame artist. So - - Alice Cooper - Beasties - LL Cool J - Donna Summer - Laura Nyro I enjoy artists like Neil Diamond, Tom Waits and the JGBand, but they didn’t have the influence that these others had on music overall, imho. And Donovan would be more of a nostalgia vote for me… ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/9 "2010-09-29T17:23:03Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > Duran Duran should be on that list! So should Todd Rundgren. And Kate Bush. Not that I really care about the place. I had a chance to go into the Hall of Fame a few weeks ago when I was on a road trip with my husband and his brother, but I decided to stay outside and watch the Air Show that was going on at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![zeldarae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f14d63/32.png) [@zeldarae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zeldarae)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/10 "2010-09-29T17:26:16Z")
Let me be the first this year to ask, “Where is Kiss?” I mean, if Bon Jovi can be nominated… ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/11 "2010-09-29T17:29:27Z")
The whole “rock and roll” element of it is so broad now, isn’t it? Which I think it a very good thing, it’s good to be diverse, it’d be boring if every year the same type of artists were being inducted. I want both Chic and Donna Summer to make it in this year (I think they’ve both been nominated before?) but I don’t think they’ll put two late-70s dance artists in at the same time, so it could be one or the other, with the one who misses out probably getting in within the next few years. Both have been so incredibly influential in the world of dance music. Tom Waits will probably get in, maybe the Beastie Boys too. Now that Michael Jackson, Madonna and Prince have been inducted, get Kate Bush on there and all my four favourite artists will be in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. I don’t take the whole thing super seriously but I think it’s fun to see who gets in every year. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/12 "2010-09-29T17:34:44Z")
This is just getting fucking ridiculous. Again, for the 11th straight year, Rush doesn’t even get nominated while these guys do? Seriously, does anyone here really thing that most of that list has been as successful, famous, or influential on music as the members of Rush? Entire generations of musicians have grown up (I was one) wanting to be able to play like them. The recent documentary on their careers, “Beyond the Lighted Stage” had many very good musicians describing the impact on their lives and decision to do music of the members of Rush. Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins) Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails) Sebastian Bach (Skid Row) Jimmy Chamberlin (Smashing Pumpkins) Les Claypool (Primus) Tim Commerford (Rage Against the Machine) Kirk Hammett (Metallica) Kim Mitchell (Max Webster) Taylor Hawkins (Foo Fighters) Vinnie Paul (Pantera) Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater) Jason McGerr (Death Cab for Cutie) Zakk Wylde (Ozzy) Danny Carey (Tool) That’s just a start. If you were 14 and into metal and hard rock in the early 1980s you worshipped at their altar. 24 gold records 14 platinum records Hell, their LAST record went platinum, 30 odd years after their first record was released. Can any of these other has-beens claim to still be making music? I mean, just, FUCK. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/13 "2010-09-29T17:40:12Z")
Alice Cooper-Lock Neil Diamond Donovan Tom Waits ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/14 "2010-09-29T17:40:43Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > Alice Cooper > Beastie Boys > Bon Jovi > Chic > Neil Diamond > Donovan > Dr. John > J. Geils Band > LL Cool J > Darlene Love > Laura Nyro > Donna Summer > Joe Tex > Tom Waits > Chuck Willis Should get in: Beastie Boys Chic Neil Diamond Dr. John Darlene Love Donna Summer Tom Waits Should _never_, _ever_ be mentioned in the same sentence as “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame”, but will likely get in, since they’ve inexplicably garnered a shred of critical respectability over the years: Bon Jovi ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/15 "2010-09-29T17:42:09Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Not that I really care about the place. I had a chance to go into the Hall of Fame a few weeks ago when I was on a road trip with my husband and his brother, but I decided to stay outside and watch the Air Show that was going on at the same time. Speaking as a local, you did the right thing. Nothing against the place, but you can go next time. The Air Show is awesome and is there only one weekend. You can’t always get buzzed by a Blue Angel. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/16 "2010-09-29T17:44:12Z")
> [@zeldarae](#): > > Let me be the first this year to ask, “Where is Kiss?” I mean, if Bon Jovi can be nominated… So, Eddie Trunk _does_ have an active SDMB account. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/17 "2010-09-29T17:44:56Z")
Yeah, it’s a little confusing. I’m not even a Rush fan, but it doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense to not nominate them, but nominate Chic, who had a very short run and weren’t half as influential. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/18 "2010-09-29T17:45:19Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > This is just getting fucking ridiculous. Again, for the 11th straight year, Rush doesn’t even get nominated while these guys do? WTF! I just assumed they were already in.This is worse than Queen not getting in on their 1st year of elgibility. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/19 "2010-09-29T17:52:46Z")
Really, though, the very _idea_ of a hall of fame dedicated to bringing stuffy respectability to _rock and roll_, a genre of music that so famously wallowed, right from its very beginning, in glorious disrespect? Talk about ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/20 "2010-09-29T17:53:12Z")
Who decides on these nominees? I can’t take this HOF seriously when bands like Rush and Kiss can’t even get nominated while non-rock acts like LL Cool J and Tom Waits get in there. Who the hell is Laura Nyro? never heard of her. Never heard of Joe Tex either? How do they rate getting consideration before Kiss and Rush? Real rock seems to get short shrift in this Hall. Chic gets in before Rush? What the fuck? Does anyone involved in the nominations even _like_ rock and roll? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486.md?page=2)