# 2011 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/21 "2010-09-29T17:56:14Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Who decides on these nominees? I can’t take this HOF seriously when bands like Rush and Kiss can’t even get nominated while non-rock acts like LL Cool J and Tom Waits get in there? Who the hell is Laura Nyro? never heard of her. Never heard of Joe Tex either? How do they rate getting consideration before Kiss and Rush? **Real rock seems to get short shrift in this Hall.**

But, **Dio** , it _is_ the _Rock and Roll_ (a music that’s always been wonderfully diverse and mongrel) Hall of Fame, not the _Rock_ (guitar based music largely made and enjoyed by white people) Hall of Fame.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/22 "2010-09-29T18:01:04Z")

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Joe Tex did _I Gotcha_, remember?

_Uh huh, huh  
Thought I didn’t see ya now, didn’t cha?  
Uh huh, huh…_

He and James Brown were contemps.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/23 "2010-09-29T18:02:01Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> This is just getting fucking ridiculous. Again, for the 11th straight year, Rush doesn’t even get nominated while these guys do?
> 
> Seriously, does anyone here really thing that most of that list has been as successful, famous, or influential on music as the members of Rush? Entire generations of musicians have grown up (I was one) wanting to be able to play like them.
> 
> The recent documentary on their careers, “Beyond the Lighted Stage” had many very good musicians describing the impact on their lives and decision to do music of the members of Rush.
> 
> Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins)  
> Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails)  
> Sebastian Bach (Skid Row)  
> Jimmy Chamberlin (Smashing Pumpkins)  
> Les Claypool (Primus)  
> Tim Commerford (Rage Against the Machine)  
> Kirk Hammett (Metallica)  
> Kim Mitchell (Max Webster)  
> Taylor Hawkins (Foo Fighters)  
> Vinnie Paul (Pantera)  
> Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)  
> Jason McGerr (Death Cab for Cutie)  
> Zakk Wylde (Ozzy)  
> Danny Carey (Tool)  
> That’s just a start. If you were 14 and into metal and hard rock in the early 1980s you worshipped at their altar.
> 
> 24 gold records  
> 14 platinum records
> 
> Hell, their LAST record went platinum, 30 odd years after their first record was released. Can any of these other has-beens claim to still be making music?
> 
> I mean, just, FUCK.

Word.

the lack of respect Rush has _always_ gotten from critics and the establishment has always been baffling to me. I can only think it’s because they don’t actually know anything about music (I know the guys who write record reviews don’t). Rush’s musicianship alone is irreproachable and unmatched, and when you add in their longevity, their distinct individuality and innovation, their hardcore, longtime loyal fanbase, their laundry list of classic songs, etc, it’s just inexplicable and inexcusable for them to be ignored like this.

Also, no Kiss? I’m not even really a fan of Kiss, but they were one of the biggest and most influential bands in rock history. How do they not rate ahead of fucking Chic or J. Geils Band?

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/24 "2010-09-29T18:06:42Z")

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Chic were very influential, perhaps not as much as Rush and certainly not in the same genre, but they don’t strike me as a “what-the-fuck” inclusion like the J. Geils Band does, for example.

I’m not a Rush fan but I recognise that they should have been nominated by now.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/25 "2010-09-29T18:08:51Z")

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When these lists come out, I’m always shocked at who isn’t already in the HoF. This year it’s Alice Cooper. And I agree about Rush… it’s unbelievable that they haven’t been nominated.

I expect Dr. John will be inducted… he’s about to turn 70 at this point.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/26 "2010-09-29T18:44:49Z")

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This thread could have been titled “Musicians I avoid at all costs.”

Gotta agree about Rush, even though I don’t care for their music. Kiss sucked.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/27 "2010-09-29T18:52:43Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> This is just getting fucking ridiculous.

First time, **Jonathan** , in the 10 plus years I’ve known you online that I’ve ever seen you get upset. I must say though, a worthy cause and your ire is spot on. Rush is as deserving as the Eagles, Grateful Dead, etc. Makes no sense and you gotta wonder what their rationale is.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/28 "2010-09-29T19:08:20Z")

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> [@MTCicero](#):
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> Should _never_, _ever_ be mentioned in the same sentence as “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame”, but will likely get in, since they’ve inexplicably garnered a shred of critical respectability over the years:
> 
> Bon Jovi

Heh…and before this recent “respectability”, they were what _defined_ a good portion of rock in the late 80’s/early 90’s.

To say they don’t deserve mention is…humorous, to say the least.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/29 "2010-09-29T19:45:41Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
>
> This is just getting fucking ridiculous. Again, for the 11th straight year, Rush doesn’t even get nominated while these guys do?
> 
> Seriously, does anyone here really thing that most of that list has been as successful, famous, or influential on music as the members of Rush? Entire generations of musicians have grown up (I was one) wanting to be able to play like them.
> 
> The recent documentary on their careers, “Beyond the Lighted Stage” had many very good musicians describing the impact on their lives and decision to do music of the members of Rush.
> 
> Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins)  
> Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails)  
> Sebastian Bach (Skid Row)  
> Jimmy Chamberlin (Smashing Pumpkins)  
> Les Claypool (Primus)  
> Tim Commerford (Rage Against the Machine)  
> Kirk Hammett (Metallica)  
> Kim Mitchell (Max Webster)  
> Taylor Hawkins (Foo Fighters)  
> Vinnie Paul (Pantera)  
> Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)  
> Jason McGerr (Death Cab for Cutie)  
> Zakk Wylde (Ozzy)  
> Danny Carey (Tool)  
> That’s just a start. If you were 14 and into metal and hard rock in the early 1980s you worshipped at their altar.
> 
> 24 gold records  
> 14 platinum records
> 
> Hell, their LAST record went platinum, 30 odd years after their first record was released. Can any of these other has-beens claim to still be making music?
> 
> I mean, just, FUCK.

Preach it brotha! By the way, I’m seeing them tonight 😃

Back on topic: I nominate that the Hall be renamed The Pop Music Hall of Fame. That would end any controversy of why certain acts are inducted who aren’t considered “rock.”

Mu guesses: Beasties, Neil Diamond, Dr, John, Donna Summer, and Tom Waits

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/30 "2010-09-29T20:04:01Z")

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Alice Cooper  
Neil Diamond  
Donovan  
Dr. John  
Laura Nyro

I always tend to pick the ones who were songwriters rather than being cover artists. Laura Nyro was covered by everyone from Three Dog Night to the Fifth Dimension to Barbra Streisand, who got as close to rock as she ever did with “Stoney End.” Nyro was a gem of the singer/songwriter era, maybe just behind Joni Mitchell for excellence. Her big problem for inclusion was that her career lasted just from 67-71.

Nile Rodgers from Chic is one of the premier songwriters and producers of his era, besides his guitar work. J. Giles is a twiglet by comparison. I’m not a big fan of his music but that’s pretty much exactly why fans don’t get to vote.

The complaints about some of these people not being rock are eyerolling. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Rock is r&b and blues and rockabilly and folk rock and singer/songwriters and progressive and punk and disco and alternative and metal and new wave and grunge and 50 other styles. You know it is. That’s what you and everybody else have grown up knowing. You don’t have to headbang for it to be rock or else you eliminate everybody up through around 1970. Rock is every style that the Beatles incorporated, and that’s a huge pile of styles.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/31 "2010-09-29T20:07:04Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Yeah, it’s a little confusing. I’m not even a Rush fan, but it doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense to not nominate them, but nominate Chic, who had a very short run and weren’t half as influential.

I don’t like Rush, but yeah, it seems that someone in that band pissed someone off in the R&R HOF committee.

Chic is the only band I’m remotely interested in seeing making it. I guess Chic are the Velvet Underground of dance/rock. (Meaning their popularity might have been brief, but their influence was massive.) Someone upthread mentioned Duran Duran - there wouldn’t be a Duran Duran if not for Chic.

The singers were nice, but Tony Thompson, Bernie Edwards, and Nile Rodgers bridged rock and roll with R&B - the progenitors, I would say, of modern pop music. Sister Sledge, Diana Ross, Madonna, Duran Duran, INXS, Robert Palmer, and many others were produced by, had songs written by, or essentially sang while Thompson/Edwards/Rodgers played, arranged, songwrote, and produced.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/32 "2010-09-29T20:34:29Z")

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> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#):
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> > [@RickJay](#):
> >
> > Yeah, it’s a little confusing. I’m not even a Rush fan, but it doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense to not nominate them, but nominate Chic, who had a very short run and weren’t half as influential.
> 
> I don’t like Rush, but yeah, it seems that someone in that band pissed someone off in the R&R HOF committee.
> 
> Chic is the only band I’m remotely interested in seeing making it. I guess Chic are the Velvet Underground of dance/rock. (Meaning their popularity might have been brief, but their influence was massive.) Someone upthread mentioned Duran Duran - there wouldn’t be a Duran Duran if not for Chic.
> 
> The singers were nice, but Tony Thompson, Bernie Edwards, and Nile Rodgers bridged rock and roll with R&B - the progenitors, I would say, of modern pop music. Sister Sledge, Diana Ross, Madonna, Duran Duran, INXS, Robert Palmer, and many others were produced by, had songs written by, or essentially sang while Thompson/Edwards/Rodgers played, arranged, songwrote, and produced.

All true - and you didn’t even mention how aggressively sampled they were; Rapper’s Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang is built on a Chic/Edwards bassline, fercrissake. And Duran Duran certainly wouldn’t have had the side project Power Station with out Thompson and Edwards 😉

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/33 "2010-09-29T20:34:43Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Who the hell is Laura Nyro? never heard of her.

Never heard of the song, “And When I Die”? “Stone Soul Picnic”? “Wedding Bell Blues”? “Eli’s Coming?”

Or groups like Blood Sweat and Tears, the Fifth Dimension, or Three Dog Night, all of whom became superstars singing her music?

If we’re talking influence, then there’s Elton John, Elvis Costello, Alice Cooper, Kanye West, Barry Manilow, Bob Dylan, and many others. Outside of rock, Frank Sinatra, Barbra Streisand, and Stephen Swartz.

Much more deservring than a two-bit power trio out of Canada, for instance.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/34 "2010-09-29T20:36:35Z")

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> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#):
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> there wouldn’t be a Duran Duran if not for Chic.
> 
> Duran Duran … were produced by, had songs written by, or essentially sang while Thompson/Edwards/Rodgers played, arranged, songwrote, and produced.

This is true. Duran Duran have said their music is “Chic meets the Sex Pistols.”

Nile Rodgers produced Duran’s biggest hits.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/35 "2010-09-29T20:39:40Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Rock is r&b and blues and rockabilly and folk rock and singer/songwriters and progressive and punk and disco and alternative and metal and new wave and grunge and 50 other styles. You know it is. That’s what you and everybody else have grown up knowing. You don’t have to headbang for it to be rock or else you eliminate everybody up through around 1970. Rock is every style that the Beatles incorporated, and that’s a huge pile of styles.

Nice. This is too long for a sig line, or else I’d shamelessly appropriate it. Thanks for putting it so well.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/36 "2010-09-29T21:54:46Z")

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> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#):
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> I don’t like Rush, but yeah, it seems that someone in that band pissed someone off in the R&R HOF committee.

All of them likely did – they are almost certainly paying the price for all the S.F., concept albums, and Randianism.

People who start rock museums are generally uncool middle age white guys trying to feel cool. They don’t achieve this by nominating/hobnobbing with uncool white guys who were (and whose fans were) dorks from the word go. A Jann Wenner or Paul Allen can feel okay nominating an S.F.-infected band only if they mitigate the dork factor by some hedonistic (Zep, to some extent) or otherwise exotic (Bowie – he’s English, and androgynous!) concomitant traits. Being a pasty white Canadian Objectivist doesn’t particularly cut it. The RRHOL (l for lame) has been criticized for marginalizing black acts, but I’d think a black act would have a significantly better chance of getting by (hey, they’ve got soul!) than Rush, about who there is little that could be associated with a cool factor. Not saying it’s right or wrong, but helps put in perspective that the whole thing is a bit of a bad joke.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/37 "2010-09-29T22:12:18Z")

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Its strange, I enjoy music, and more importantly I enjoy a wide range of music. I’m not an expert by any standard, but I have a good knowledge of bands, both established and more recent.

And the ONLY place I have ever even heard of the band “Rush” is here on this board. I have no idea of their music, they have zero presence in this country now, nor have I heard anything by them in the many countries I have travelled to.

Every time one of these threads is done, the outrage about “Rush” gets repeated and every time my reaction is the same.

Who?

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Sigmagirl, thanks for the validation. I figure I’ll go back at some point and see the thing properly, but we only had an hour and a half before we had to be on the road again, and I couldn’t justify my brother-in-law, who was paying, spending that kind of money on me, on something I wasn’t really all that interested in anyway, so I happily let them go on in and just wandered around, watching the Air Show and the people and the place and had a great time. It’s a beautiful campus, and there’s WiFi outside.

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Who the hell is Laura Nyro? never heard of her.

You embarrass yourself. Not because you don’t know who she is, but because that “the hell” in there shows a disdain that’s not only not deserved, it makes you look like an ignorant jerk who can’t be bothered to do a [little research](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Nyro).

Good: “Who is Laura Nyro?” = “I’m curious as to who she is and why her name is on the list.”

Bad: “Who the hell is Laura Nyro?” = “Hey everybody, I’m a disrespectful dick and don’t care who knows it.”

I’m not one to say that Laura will or should get in the HoF before other artists, but damn, a little respect please! For her music and legacy, but also because she died an untimely death of ovarian cancer and the world lost a great singer-songwriter. She influenced artists as diverse as Janis Ian, Suzanne Vega to Todd Rundgren and Rickie Lee Jones.

Laura Nyro’s [“Stoned Soul Picnic”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwSNbC9zK-w)  
The 5th Dimension’s “Stoned Soul Picnic”

Laura Nyro’s [“Wedding Bell Blues”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8kuo-TRZU8)  
The 5th Dimension’s [“Wedding Bell Blues”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlnSGn_OrI)

Laura Nyro’s [“And When I Die”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUa8mbgKex8)  
Blood, Sweat & Tears’ [“And When I Die”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Omtd44Y-s)

Laura Nyro’s [“Eli’s Coming”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnTxC8i9lf0)  
Three Dog Night’s [“Eli’s Comin”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2eet1bttY)

Laura Nyro’s [“Stoney End”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRBHBSTIedo)  
Barbra Streisand’s [“Stoney End”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j__OhNPutzA&feature=related)  
(Also covered by [Linda Rondstat](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxgDB-YZJVo), [Maynerd Ferguson](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdUjWkmWZCc), [The Blossoms](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrHyVMUKbso), [Peggy Lipton](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woGlVJ_-dfk) (who also [wonderfully covered](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFIQxIA2iPI) Laura’s [“Lu”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQT0KbqcFxE)), Diana Ross and others.

Laura Nyro’s [“Sweet Blindness”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFTBERaBWL8)  
The 5th Dimension’s [“Sweet Blindness”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYmn2aS9KWU)

Laura Nyro’s [“I Never Meant To Hurt You”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShOZKLUAJU8)  
Barbra Streisand’s["I Never Meant To Hurt You"](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdwBkgLNcoo)

That’s just scratching the surface with some of her best-known songs, but there are dozens of others. I’d list them but I’m off to a movie. Here’s one though:

[“New York Tendaberry”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoLfWiSGRZ4)

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/39 "2010-09-29T22:33:36Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> I have no idea of their music, they have zero presence in this country now, nor have I heard anything by them in the many countries I have travelled to.

Rush was most broadly promulgated on AOR stations or stations specializing in what would later be classed as “classic rock.” IMLE, that format or genre of station was not prevalent (if it existed at all) outside North America.

Second, few if any people outside N. America would get the Rand stuff (I’m sure many of their fans didn’t care about it either).

Third, IME Rush concerts were a big part of their appeal (I never went). As one acquaintance put it, Rush was right up there with the bands that dozens of your classmates would be wearing the t-shirt of the day after the show. I just glanced at their (super long) touring history and while I’m sure they’ve done a lot of shows internationally, the bulk have been in the U.S. and Canada, so to the extent that their stage dynamism drove popularity, it may not have translated to, say, Ireland if they rarely made it there.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2011-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/555486/40 "2010-09-29T23:15:39Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Nyro was a gem of the singer/songwriter era, maybe just behind Joni Mitchell for excellence. Her big problem for inclusion was that her career lasted just from 67-71.

Only the high-profile part of her career. She came back with all-new albums in 1976, 1978, and 1984, plus a couple of live albums were issued.

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