# 2012 Fantasy Football - general discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 5, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523 "2012-08-05T15:16:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/81 "2012-09-04T02:26:49Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Is this a 6 person league? > > I really like your team. A bit heavy on high upside unprovens (Julio Jones, DeMarco Murray), but you have mixed that in with some nice depth (hell, you may end up starting both Foster and Tate) and solid contributors (Eli) and outright studs (Foster). Nice team. Jesus Christ. Who IS proven in your eyes in FF? I showed you a team that was very similar and you poo-poohed it. I think the thing you are missing in FF is the intangibles that come into play every year. The players on your bench that end up as starters, or the rookie or waiver wire guy that ends up saving your season. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/82 "2012-09-04T02:28:07Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Thanks. It’s 10 teams, but 5 are women… Don’t get overconfident because of that! ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/83 "2012-09-04T02:55:14Z")
10-Team Auction League This league has money attached but its basically all pride since we’ve been playing together for over 10 years. Only trade I know is coming is me sending Titus Young elsewhere for a more viable RB option. Understanding that Mendenhall and Witten are out, I can’t really complain when they cost me $4 total (3 for Witten). QB Tom Brady RB Maurice Jones-Drew RB Ahmad Bradshaw WR Mike Wallace WR Victor Cruz TE Brent Celek FLEX Miles Austin D/ST Texans D/ST K Garrett Hartley BE Jason Witten BE Titus Young BE Alshon Jeffery BE Sidney Rice BE Coby Fleener BE Andy Dalton BE Rashard Mendenhall ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/84 "2012-09-04T04:53:21Z")
just a quick heads up. If you want in on the [SDMB Pick 'em, survival, and salary cap leagues](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=663791), you need to get your entries in before the game starts tomorrow. If you want in on the [SDMB Yardage Pool League](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=664320), you can post your pick before the relevant game. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/85 "2012-09-04T08:41:14Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Jesus Christ. Who IS proven in your eyes in FF? I showed you a team that was very similar and you poo-poohed it. I think the thing you are missing in FF is the intangibles that come into play every year. The players on your bench that end up as starters, or the rookie or waiver wire guy that ends up saving your season. Sorry,\*\* Hamlet\*\*. This came off as unnecessarily harsh. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/86 "2012-09-04T09:02:22Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > I could probably get Richardson for Ingram. Would you pull the trigger on that deal? I would not do it. Richardson has not practiced since he had his knee scoped. There are rumors that the injury is more serious than originally reported. Then again, Ingram has been a little fragile himself, so ymmv. Speaking of injuries, Adrian Peterson may not play in week 1. I have him as my feature back, but I think he’s going to ride my bench this week. I’ll start Reggie Bush and Ingram (moving up from flex), and add Anquan Boldin to the flex spot unless I hear good news on AP. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/87 "2012-09-04T13:25:55Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Interesting distinction. In my 12-team league, I have the following RBs: > > Ray Rice > BJGE > Ingram > Jacobs > Jaquizz Rodgers > > With Rice, BJGE, and Ingram starting > > I could probably get Richardson for Ingram. Would you pull the trigger on that deal? No. I guess I’d rather have Ingram as a flex only, not as a #2. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/88 "2012-09-07T20:45:29Z")
Love it when my #1 pick (#1 overall) gets hurt between the draft and the first game, and will be a game time decision… Arian Foster, I’m looking at you. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/89 "2012-09-07T20:50:05Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Love it when my #1 pick (#1 overall) gets hurt between the draft and the first game, and will be a game time decision.. Arian Foster, I’m looking at you. Yeah…I have Ben Tate on my roster, and I’m tempted to start him, but sure as I do, Foster will go and have a career day while my guy rides the bench… ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/90 "2012-09-07T20:52:00Z")
I have Tate too, but unless I start them both I’m sure I’ll choose incorrectly… ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/91 "2012-09-07T22:18:16Z")
Same for Lynch. ;( of course it was only a second rounder, but still annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/92 "2012-09-09T05:55:57Z")
Hey everyone, looking for some last minute Start/Sit advice for my money league. I have a couple flex spots to choose and I am struggling to decide between Reggie Wayne, Demarius Thomas, Malcolm Floyd and Shonn Greene and Dywane Bowe. The textbook play is to start Greene and Wayne, based on projections. I’m not a big fan of Greene against the Bills, I think the Jets might go 3 and out every possession, and I worry about Wayne against the Bears with a rookie making his first start, even if he is Luck. Thomas is the guy I should go with based on draft position and he’s got Peyton Manning, but Peyton might be as shaky of a QB as Luck in week 1. Plus they are against the Steelers. My gut tells me to start Floyd. When he’s healthy he’s pretty good and without VJax he could be River’s go-to. At least in week 1 when he’s a 100%, Floyd seems like a great play against a Oakland secondary with a bunch of question marks. Really hoping to get some opinions before tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/93 "2012-09-09T11:48:30Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Hey everyone, looking for some last minute Start/Sit advice for my money league. > > I have a couple flex spots to choose and I am struggling to decide between Reggie Wayne, Demarius Thomas, Malcolm Floyd and Shonn Greene and Dywane Bowe. > > The textbook play is to start Greene and Wayne, based on projections. I’m not a big fan of Greene against the Bills, I think the Jets might go 3 and out every possession, and I worry about Wayne against the Bears with a rookie making his first start, even if he is Luck. > > Thomas is the guy I should go with based on draft position and he’s got Peyton Manning, but Peyton might be as shaky of a QB as Luck in week 1. Plus they are against the Steelers. > > My gut tells me to start Floyd. When he’s healthy he’s pretty good and without VJax he could be River’s go-to. At least in week 1 when he’s a 100%, Floyd seems like a great play against a Oakland secondary with a bunch of question marks. > > Really hoping to get some opinions before tomorrow. I’d go with Thomas. Peyton is dying to show the world he’s back. Denver at home. Probably no James Harrison for the Steelers, which throws off their whole D. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/94 "2012-09-09T15:18:46Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > I’d go with Thomas. Peyton is dying to show the world he’s back. Denver at home. Probably no James Harrison for the Steelers, which throws off their whole D. Need 2 guys, what would be your second choice? ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/95 "2012-09-09T15:47:36Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Whats the general thought on Mendenhall? My RBs are pretty week, Lynch and Richardson, then Mendenhall, and a couple piles of crap. my flex will be WR every week, so all I need is a third guy for bye and injury weeks. Byes don’t come till week 10 and 11, so I figure he will be healthy by then. Do you think he will be the starter when he gets healthy? I am debating if I should trade some of my WR depth to upgrade 3rd RB, but don’t know what kind of value I can get right now. I decided I had to pull the trigger, and moved to get Kevin Smith, With Richardson and Lynch both being so damn questionable for the first couple weeks. I did grab Turbin but that just means I have 2 half-RBs now. Dammit ,how was I stupid enough to I get myself into a situation where my top three drafted RBs will possibly all be on the bench for most of week 1? ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/96 "2012-09-09T15:50:25Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Need 2 guys, what would be your second choice? I’m starting Bowe as my WR3. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/97 "2012-09-09T15:52:32Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Hey everyone, looking for some last minute Start/Sit advice for my money league. > > I have a couple flex spots to choose and I am struggling to decide between Reggie Wayne, Demarius Thomas, Malcolm Floyd and Shonn Greene and Dywane Bowe. > > The textbook play is to start Greene and Wayne, based on projections. I’m not a big fan of Greene against the Bills, I think the Jets might go 3 and out every possession, and I worry about Wayne against the Bears with a rookie making his first start, even if he is Luck. > > Thomas is the guy I should go with based on draft position and he’s got Peyton Manning, but Peyton might be as shaky of a QB as Luck in week 1. Plus they are against the Steelers. > > My gut tells me to start Floyd. When he’s healthy he’s pretty good and without VJax he could be River’s go-to. At least in week 1 when he’s a 100%, Floyd seems like a great play against a Oakland secondary with a bunch of question marks. > > Really hoping to get some opinions before tomorrow. I didn’t see this earlier. My gut seems to agree with yours, though. I don’t like Shonne Green at any point, but especially against the Bills. I also think DeMaryius isn’t going to be Peyton’s favorite, and Ike Taylor just may shoot him in the parking lot before the game to make up for last year’s playoff win. I’m not sure about Bowe, I think his value comes from numerous catches, which may not happen with a defense that may avoid a blowout and a healthy Jamaal Charles and Peyton Hillis. And I too like Malcolm Floyd, especially against that iffy secondary in Oakland. If your opponents lineup is solid and you think you need big numbers, I’d go with Floyd and Wayne. If you think you just need a low floor to win, I’d go with Wayne and Greene simply because of touches. Good Luck. ETA: It looks like Collie is inactive, so that too might help Wayne’s value. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/98 "2012-09-09T16:01:00Z")
I’d go with Wayne and Floyd. Payton has always been a guy who needs a high comfort level with his receivers. Thomas will be big later this season, but I expect some growing pains these first couple weeks and missed hook-ups. Forgot to ask my question. Richardson now for 15-20 runs, or wait for the Lynch/Turbin late game and risk picking a guy who many only get 3 touches? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/99 "2012-09-09T16:09:40Z")
Am I an idiot to start Danny Amendola over Lance Moore? Amendola is the Rams only real receiver and I’m thinking Bradford will be throwing a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/100 "2012-09-09T16:25:37Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Am I an idiot to start Danny Amendola over Lance Moore? Amendola is the Rams only real receiver and I’m thinking Bradford will be throwing a lot. In a PPR league, I’d definitely start Amendola over Moore, and likely in a standard league too. I’d worry about Amendola being the only receiving threat for the Rams and getting all the attention, but the Lions secondary doesn’t look very good at all. I think Moore has a higher upside, but Amendola is more of a sure thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523.md?page=6)