# 2012 Fantasy Football - general discussion

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 5, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523 "2012-08-05T15:16:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/101 "2012-09-09T16:32:19Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Am I an idiot to start Danny Amendola over Lance Moore? Amendola is the Rams only real receiver and I’m thinking Bradford will be throwing a lot.

I don’t think you’re crazy either way, but (as I’m not the first to ask) is it PPR? I think Amendola’s going to be about twice as valuable as his draft price, and in PPR leagues even more.

For what it’s worth, though, Bradford looked at Steve Smith more than Amendola in the preseason. But again, since Lance Moore gets like the fourth most looks on the Saints, either way I think it’s a reasonable decision. I kind of want to start him over Bowe, even, although I won’t. Stupid tiny starting lineups.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/102 "2012-09-09T16:40:18Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> I’d go with Wayne and Floyd. Payton has always been a guy who needs a high comfort level with his receivers. Thomas will be big later this season, but I expect some growing pains these first couple weeks and missed hook-ups.
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> Forgot to ask my question. Richardson now for 15-20 runs, or wait for the Lynch/Turbin late game and risk picking a guy who many only get 3 touches?

Is Richardson starting for certain? If he is, and he’s not 100% healthy, I’d be a little leery of the Philly defense, as well as the fact that there’s a really good chance that the Eagles jump out to an early lead large enough to force the Browns into passing mode, taking carries away from your RB.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/103 "2012-09-10T03:26:53Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I didn’t see this earlier. My gut seems to agree with yours, though. I don’t like Shonne Green at any point, but especially against the Bills. I also think DeMaryius isn’t going to be Peyton’s favorite, and Ike Taylor just may shoot him in the parking lot before the game to make up for last year’s playoff win. I’m not sure about Bowe, I think his value comes from numerous catches, which may not happen with a defense that may avoid a blowout and a healthy Jamaal Charles and Peyton Hillis. And I too like Malcolm Floyd, especially against that iffy secondary in Oakland.
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> If your opponents lineup is solid and you think you need big numbers, I’d go with Floyd and Wayne. If you think you just need a low floor to win, I’d go with Wayne and Greene simply because of touches. Good Luck.
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> ETA: It looks like Collie is inactive, so that too might help Wayne’s value.

As it turned out there really was no wrong answer.

I ended up going with the combo of Gore, Greene, Ridley and Wayne, they went for 23, 17, 26 and 12 respectively. My alternates Peterson, Thomas, Bowe and Floyd have thus far scored 21, 22 and 2 with Floyd left to go on MNF.

Bowe was my last option so that wasn’t really a factor. Thomas is still playing and Floyd still could go off for 25 tomorrow night. I’m up 60 points with my opponent only having Ray Rice left to play so at least for week 1 I’m the juggernaut of this league.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/104 "2012-09-10T03:49:28Z")

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Well, everything I read before today said to sit AP, so I did. 80+ yds rushing and 2 TD. Instead, I went with Ingram, who had maybe 15 yards. ☹

Had more luck with other positions, though. Peyton, Moore, Graham, and Saints D all posted 20+ fantasy points. I’ve got Rivers, Anquan Boldin, and 11 points against Ray Rice on Monday night for the win. Feeling pretty good about my chances.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/105 "2012-09-10T03:52:12Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Well, everything I read before today said to sit AP, so I did. 80+ yds rushing and 2 TD. Instead, I went with Ingram, who had maybe 15 yards. ☹
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> Had more luck with other positions, though. Peyton, Moore, Graham, and Saints D all posted 20+ fantasy points. I’ve got Rivers, Anquan Boldin, and 11 points against Ray Rice on Monday night for the win. Feeling pretty good about my chances.

I’m going against Rice in like 5 leagues tomorrow. We can root together.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/106 "2012-09-10T10:44:43Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> As it turned out there really was no wrong answer.
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> I ended up going with the combo of Gore, Greene, Ridley and Wayne, they went for 23, 17, 26 and 12 respectively. My alternates Peterson, Thomas, Bowe and Floyd have thus far scored 21, 22 and 2 with Floyd left to go on MNF.
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> Bowe was my last option so that wasn’t really a factor. Thomas is still playing and Floyd still could go off for 25 tomorrow night. I’m up 60 points with my opponent only having Ray Rice left to play so at least for week 1 I’m the juggernaut of this league.

Thomas had a very good game, but Bowe blew. I had him penciled in as my WR3 this season, but my rookie Alshon Jeffrey looked pretty good so I’m not too concerned.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/107 "2012-09-10T12:10:01Z")

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Anyone using Yahoo! to manage their league? The scoring is all wrong this morning for us. Anyone else?

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/108 "2012-09-10T12:42:41Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Anyone using Yahoo! to manage their league? The scoring is all wrong this morning for us. Anyone else?

THANK YOU!

I was just coming in to ask this.

Gostkowski is currently listed at 0 points, despite 2 short FG’s and 4 PAT.

Big Ben also has less points than he should, he isn’t credited with his two passing TD’s.  
And now that I look closer, Aaron Hernandez is also missing his receiving TD…WTF, Yahoo? One of my defensive players also is listed at 0 points despite having several tackles.

Edit: Yeah, a little searching shows several postings on Yahoo’s help board about it…what’s weird is the guy I was matched up against didn’t have any problems…all his TD’s, FG’s, tackles, sacks, etc… were getting him points.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/109 "2012-09-10T12:44:58Z")

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I’m noticing the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/110 "2012-09-10T12:49:38Z")

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Yep, a couple of touchdowns by Alfred Morris disappeared. I just assumed it was because he was possessed by aliens or was actually Clinton Portis making a comeback. You know, Occam’s Razor.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/111 "2012-09-10T12:55:54Z")

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Yahoo! has this posted now:

> [@](#):
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> We are aware of the issue where many players are missing stats from yesterday, and we are currently working to resolve it. Thank you for your patience.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/112 "2012-09-10T13:06:02Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Am I an idiot to start Danny Amendola over Lance Moore? Amendola is the Rams only real receiver and I’m thinking Bradford will be throwing a lot.

So, it turns out you were, but mostly because Devery Henderson got hurt, so don’t beat yourself up. I don’t think it’s very accurate to say Amendola is the Rams’ “only real receiver”, though. His best season was three years ago and he posted ~700 yards.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/113 "2012-09-10T13:25:27Z")

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I’m wondering if Henderson has a concussion. That was a brutal shot to the head…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/114 "2012-09-10T13:30:24Z")

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I’m almost certain it was a stinger. The trainers were asking him to move his hands and feet and checking reflexes - more consistent with a neck injury.

It also looked more like one on replay.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/115 "2012-09-10T17:15:25Z")

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So I’ve got a draft tomorrow (standard scoring, 10 team league) and I’m thinking that now that we know Peyton is for real that I’d make a play for Damariyus Thomas.

So what’s the best round to take him in? I don’t know where I’m drafting (randomized before we start), but is still flying under the radar?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/116 "2012-09-10T18:20:23Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> So I’ve got a draft tomorrow (standard scoring, 10 team league) and I’m thinking that now that we know Peyton is for real that I’d make a play for Damariyus Thomas.
> 
> So what’s the best round to take him in? I don’t know where I’m drafting (randomized before we start), but is still flying under the radar?

His ADP was at the end of the 6th round (in a ten team league), but after yesterday, you may have to move him up a round or even two if you really want him.

My only concern is that 71 yards and his TD came on one play, a quick pass he got at the line of scrimmage and that Troy Polamalu laughingly misplayed and gave him a TD. I don’t see that kind of thing happening every game. I still like Decker a bit more, but they’re really close.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/117 "2012-09-11T14:48:22Z")

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Well, I won all three games this week - but I also scored the least amount of points amongst all winners _in all three leagues_. This certainly won’t last long…

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/118 "2012-09-11T23:14:03Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Well, I won all three games this week - but I also scored the least amount of points amongst all winners _in all three leagues_. This certainly won’t last long…

True, either you’ll start scoring better or you’ll start losing. Have confidence that it’s the first that happens.

In 5 leagues, 5 1-0 starts. In the league I care most about (for fiscal reasons) I beat the second highest scoring team by 13 points. I imagine he’s cursing his luck in playing the highest scoring team the first week, I know I do when I’m on the other side of things. My team in that league is not the best and I know it. It’s going to be a waiver wire team trying to pick up on injury replacements and guesses on who’ll get hot at the right time. Usually doesn’t work, but it saved my butt last year when I ran out of healthy running backs and won me the league.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/119 "2012-09-11T23:19:04Z")

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I thought I’d do well with an underrated-but-solid RB core of Fred Jackson and Steven Jackson. Fred sprained his LCL and Steve lost two of his linemen. In Week 1.

Looks like I’ll be playing Doug Martin and Ced Benson the rest of the season.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-fantasy-football-general-discussion/630523/120 "2012-09-14T02:46:07Z")

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Fucking Thursday night games. Fuck the NFL for screwing with my fantasy teams.

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