# 2012 NFL Playoffs Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 4, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401 "2012-01-04T18:13:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/141 "2012-01-08T23:50:27Z")
What a terrible call. There was a clear recovery there, why does that not apply on passes when it applies on fumbles? The whistle doesn’t matter then, but it does on incomplete passes? Wow, these refs are completely folding up. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/142 "2012-01-08T23:51:21Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Wow, that was absolute bullshit. Steelers saved by the ref again. > > You can’t challenge forward pass vs lateral? WTF is that? You can, but since the whistle blew before the ball was recovered, winning the challenge would just mean that Pittsburgh would get the ball at the spot of the fumble. The defense can’t recover the ball after the whistle. That’s a stupid rule. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/143 "2012-01-08T23:51:30Z")
Looked like a fumble to me. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/144 "2012-01-08T23:53:27Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > You can, but since the whistle blew before the ball was recovered, winning the challenge would just mean that Pittsburgh would get the ball at the spot of the fumble. The defense can’t recover the ball after the whistle. > > That’s a stupid rule. This doesn’t matter on fumble/down by contact whistles. I’d love to know why there’s a distinction. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/145 "2012-01-08T23:54:42Z")
No fucking way is that a touchdown. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/146 "2012-01-08T23:54:53Z")
So…the Broncos can’t really beat the Steelers…can they? And if they do…they certainly couldn’t beat the Patriots…could they? I can’t really envision any other Superbowl matchup other than the Patriots versus either NO or GB… ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/147 "2012-01-08T23:54:56Z")
ALL TIME WORST OFFICIALS. Can we fire them before the 4th quarter? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/148 "2012-01-08T23:55:25Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > You can, but since the whistle blew before the ball was recovered, winning the challenge would just mean that Pittsburgh would get the ball at the spot of the fumble. The defense can’t recover the ball after the whistle. > > That’s a stupid rule. I’m pretty sure if it was ruled a fumble, but the whistle blew early, the recovery would still count. So it seems you can reverse “incorrectly ruled down by an early whistle, ruled fumble” but not “incorrectly ruled forward pass by an early whistle, ruled fumble” ---
**Author:** ![A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Spoonful_of_Awesome)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/149 "2012-01-08T23:55:51Z")
His elbow dropped at the one. Ground caused the fumble but it should be first and goal. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/150 "2012-01-08T23:58:06Z")
Pretty sure we’ve got the ref-assisted comeback I’ve seen from the Steelers a thousand times. Disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/151 "2012-01-08T23:58:11Z")
The refs just cost the Broncos 10 points. What a fucking travesty. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/152 "2012-01-08T23:59:49Z")
In this lame State Farm Commercial it looks like Raji wants to eat Rodgers. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/153 "2012-01-09T00:00:59Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Pretty sure we’ve got the ref-assisted comeback I’ve seen from the Steelers a thousand times. Disgusting. No. The call that it was Steelers’ ball inside the one was absolutely correct. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/154 "2012-01-09T00:04:56Z")
I wasn’t talking about that one, the obvious lateral one was a huge swing that let to at least a 10 point swing. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/155 "2012-01-09T00:06:11Z")
Wow, tons of time. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/156 "2012-01-09T00:07:18Z")
Heard a funny comment the other day. “Watching Tebow throw I wonder if he’s really left handed.” ---
**Author:** ![A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Spoonful_of_Awesome)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/157 "2012-01-09T00:08:46Z")
Beyond the obvious fumble, they got at least two first downs from holding no-calls committed against Dumervil. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/158 "2012-01-09T00:11:41Z")
> [@A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](#): > > Beyond the obvious fumble, they got at least two first downs from holding no-calls committed against [del]Dumervil[/del] Harrison. There, fixed that for you. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Spoonful_of_Awesome)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/159 "2012-01-09T00:17:31Z")
A run. Third and 17 and we run up the middle. See, I knew I shouldn’t have gotten involved. Way to trounce on my heart yet again, Denver. ---
**Author:** ![coolbyrne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bc79bd/32.png) [@coolbyrne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coolbyrne)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401/160 "2012-01-09T00:17:47Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > The Broncos won’t cut Tebow this off-season. He’ll be next year’s starter. Sorry, I just meant cleaning out the locker for the season. I have absolutely no doubt he’s the chosen one for next season. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-playoffs-discussion-thread/608401.md?page=9)