# 2012 overload-

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 23, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188 "2009-09-23T02:29:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/41 "2009-09-25T19:34:59Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> President-Elect Palin. Freaky and/or cataclysmic enough?

You know, when you put it that way, the end of the world doesn’t sound so bad.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/42 "2009-09-25T19:40:58Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> President-Elect Palin. Freaky and/or cataclysmic enough?

If that’s the only alternative, then sign me up for Cosmic Doom, please. Smoking section, and hopefully a window seat.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/43 "2009-09-25T20:03:52Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I hope something really freaky and/or cataclysmic does happen. The end of the world has to be pretty frakkin cool…😃

I’m sure there will be some meaningful Astral Conjunction in 2012. And then Cthulhu will no longer dream…

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/44 "2009-09-25T20:10:23Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0)

Now I can’t wait till 2012. It’s gonna be awesome!

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/45 "2009-09-25T22:20:06Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> Superb.

Agreed. That movie, I’d pay to see! 🆒

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**Author:** ![mecaenas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@mecaenas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mecaenas)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/46 "2009-09-25T23:53:25Z")

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Geez what is it with you Americans and your obsession with fear and the end of the world? With all the hype that rolls out, it makes me wonder if collectively you guys want the world to end.

/The 2012 flick looks like a good disaster-porn film.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/47 "2009-09-25T23:58:56Z")

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> [@mecaenas](#):
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> Geez what is it with you Americans and your obsession with fear and the end of the world? With all the hype that rolls out, it makes me wonder if collectively you guys want the world to end.

A significant percentage of American fundamentalist christians want exactly that. The sooner the world ends, the sooner Judgement Day comes, and they can join their loved ones with Jay-sus in Eternal Peace.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/48 "2009-09-26T00:05:51Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> A significant percentage of American fundamentalist christians want exactly that. The sooner the world ends, the sooner Judgement Day comes, and **they can join their loved ones with Jay-sus in Eternal Peace**.

Or so they think, none of them having ever heard of the sin of Pride. Methinks they are in for a bit of a shock.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/49 "2009-09-26T00:26:06Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> If that’s the only alternative, then sign me up for Cosmic Doom, please. **Smoking section** , and hopefully a window seat.

It’ll all be smoking.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/50 "2009-09-26T01:17:38Z")

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I agree with an earlier poster…step away from the TV.

> [@](#):
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> I am tired of it already. But the nuts are going to fired up like never before.

Naw. The nuts are ALWAYS fired up about something. I don’t think that this 2012 thingy is getting nearly as much traction as the hysteria over the Y2K bug and associated end of the world.

To paraphrase the MIB, there is always a Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet…just go with the flow…

-XT

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/51 "2009-09-26T01:48:45Z")

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Hell no. This is going to be big. The nuts have what serves as proof to them, Ancient prophesies and I Ching, and Nostradamus. This could be all the nuts going weird at the same time. How much more fun can you have?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/52 "2009-09-26T02:05:13Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Hell no. This is going to be big. The nuts have what serves as proof to them, Ancient prophesies and I Ching, and Nostradamus. This could be all the nuts going weird at the same time. How much more fun can you have?

So you’re saying it’s a grand conjunction of nuts ?

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/53 "2009-09-26T02:07:35Z")

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I blame it all on Art Bell.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/54 "2009-09-26T02:30:51Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> I blame it all on Art Bell.

He is not on any more is he?

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/55 "2009-09-26T02:50:18Z")

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No, but I seem to remember hearing about 2012 years ago before George took over.

eta: Here’s a quote from a 1997 interview w/Terrence McKenna:

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> The event we are approaching will probably be something tantamount to a white hole or a mini-big bang. It will, for all intents and purposes, be the end of time for us. Terence believes it will occur consistent with the Mayan calendar in the year 2012. By the way, he has derived this, uh, independently from the Mayan calendar … he simply has discovered that it coincides with it.

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**Author:** ![Trick\_Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Trick\_Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trick_Rider)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/56 "2009-09-27T05:26:28Z")

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> [@SHAKES](#):
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> Just be glad you’re not related to one of these whack jobs.
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> My sister wants the whole family to get together on this day “just in case.” :rolleyes:
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> No, sis, I’ll see you a week later on Christmas.

Oh, I’m going to have a get-together on the 21st. But it’s going to be a We Didn’t Die party. And it’s going to be awesome.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/57 "2009-09-27T05:55:41Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Hell no. This is going to be big. The nuts have what serves as proof to them, Ancient prophesies and I Ching, and Nostradamus. This could be all the nuts going weird at the same time. How much more fun can you have?

You could leave the I Ching out of that list. I consulted it for some time back in the day–until I realized it was usually telling me not to do stupid stuff.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/58 "2009-09-27T10:29:50Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> Edit: After 2012 do we have until 2038 until people freak out again or is there another date that’s getting traction yet?

There’s always 2029 when [Apophis](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis) smashes into the earth. Or if it misses us then, there’s 2036. Oh sure, they _say_ it’s going to miss us, but that’s just what they want you to think! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/59 "2009-09-27T14:21:04Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> You could leave the I Ching out of that list. I consulted it for some time back in the day–until I realized it was usually telling me not to do stupid stuff.

Wasn’t me. It was mentioned on the last Nostradamus show.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-overload/511188/60 "2009-09-27T19:47:56Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Wasn’t me. It was mentioned on the last Nostradamus show.

Well, trying to tie the I Ching in with the end of the Mayan Long Count makes even less sense than tying in Nostradamus. I don’t mind shows about the occult if they’re well done. (That one obviously wasn’t.) And if they don’t put them on the **History** Channel!

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