# 2012 U.S. Election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 5, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603 "2010-11-05T17:51:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/21 "2010-11-06T23:31:28Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Are we talking about him running for President, or for King? Prom king? ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/22 "2010-11-10T03:34:38Z")
I agree (and shudder) that Rick Perry will make a run. He’s already doing a nationwide book tour. But, will the nation be ready for another Texas governor? Ricky will make Dub look like a frickin’ genius. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/23 "2010-11-10T04:43:43Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > I agree (and shudder) that Rick Perry will make a run. He’s already doing a nationwide book tour. But, will the nation be ready for another Texas governor? Ricky will make Dub look like a frickin’ genius. Seconded. I’d say he’s as dumb as a sack full of hair but it would be such an awful insult to the hair. And the sack. ---
**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/24 "2010-11-10T06:44:22Z")
I really don’t see how it can be anyone but Romney at this point. Gingrich, the only other likely centrist Republican candidate, has little support. Palin, Huck, and Perry are all too far to the right to swing states like PA/CO/NM/OH, and Ron Paul is, well, Ron Paul. But Dopers more politically minded than myself can fight my ignorance here. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/25 "2010-11-10T13:55:18Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Don’t know how many times I have to say this, but PALIN WILL NOT RUN. There’s not enough money in it and people will say poopy things about her. She’ll hint vaguely about “maybe” running, but if she does, I’ll give each of you a big wet sloppy. Four-letter or seven letter? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/26 "2010-11-10T13:57:02Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Don’t know how many times I have to say this, but PALIN WILL NOT RUN. There’s not enough money in it and people will say poopy things about her. She’ll hint vaguely about “maybe” running, but if she does, I’ll give each of you a big wet sloppy. Four-letter or seven letter? > [@pkbites](#): > > Either way, keep your eyes and ears open about both of these outstanding gentlemen. They are going to be the next superstars of conservative politics for at least the next decade and, considering their youth, much, much longer! Yeah, Ryan sure is a superstar. I especially liked his fictional budget that not even his own party would acknowledge existed. That was so impressive. Looks like ye-olde edit function is screwy. Yay. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/27 "2010-11-10T16:05:26Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I would love for [Paul Ryan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_%28politician%29) or [Scott Walker](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_%28politician%29) to be on the ticket, at very least as VP if not for President. Wow, Ryan Paul looks like a Ronald Reagan impersonator! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/28 "2010-11-10T17:22:33Z")
Dear Og. Not Palin. Please, not Palin. I will never drink, smoke or peek at porn again if you make sure it’s not Palin. Amen. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/29 "2010-11-11T04:28:43Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Four-letter or seven letter?Yeah, Ryan sure is a superstar. I especially liked his fictional budget that not even his own party would acknowledge existed. That was so impressive. > Looks like ye-olde edit function is screwy. Yay. > > -Joe Uh huh. Because all superstars start out on top, right?:rolleyes: Per my post, keep your eyes open, and per this post be prepared to eat some serious freaking crow in the next 2 years or so! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/30 "2010-11-12T15:03:56Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Uh huh. Because all superstars start out on top, right?:rolleyes: > > Per my post, keep your eyes open, and per this post be prepared to eat some serious freaking crow in the next 2 years or so! No, they don’t start out on top. However, if their own party ignores their super awesome groundbreaking idea, the one that is supposed to showcase what a great, upcoming “Young Gun” they are, then they are nothing. They pretended that it didn’t even exist. I know he’s your homegrown cheesehead GOPer, but that doesn’t really count for much. Remember Jindal? Man, he was going to be the token that took down Obama. It was going to be so AWESOME! And then he stumbled through a sad little speech like a little kid thrown into the big leagues. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/31 "2010-11-12T15:30:34Z")
Palin /Voldemort for 2012! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/32 "2010-11-16T21:12:58Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Wow, Ryan Paul looks like a Ronald Reagan impersonator! Jesus, you ain’t kiddin’. Someone tell me he was wearing a Reagan wig. Can historians pull up this time in 2006 or 2002 or 1998 and say who the front-runners were thought to be? Is there time for a nobody to become a somebody? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/33 "2010-11-20T19:01:13Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I’ve said before that Romney is the most likely choice. No, it’s not logical to rail against the national health care bill and then vote for someone who did basically the same thing at the state level, but what does logic have to do with anything? Actually it makes perfect sense. The Constitution does not allow the Feds to have UHC but the States can (10th Amendment) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/34 "2010-11-20T19:24:54Z")
Wait, the Feds can’t levy taxes for the common welfare? Dangit, my copy of the Constitution must be out of date. Does this also apply to Medicare, the VA system, and the federal employee health plan? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/35 "2010-11-22T00:02:31Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Wait, the Feds can’t levy taxes for the common welfare? Dangit, my copy of the Constitution must be out of date. Does this also apply to Medicare, the VA system, and the federal employee health plan? My point was that there is a way to justify implementing UHC at a state level while railing against it at the federal level. Not saying it’s Constitutionally accurate (especially after the New Deal , SD v. Dole, etc.) but assuming that “general welfare” doesn’t mean “whatever the Feds say it is” then yes, I think that position can be argued under the 10th Amendment. But then again, that’s up to SCOTUS isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Aro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Aro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aro)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/36 "2010-12-21T16:24:45Z")
Quick Q from an outsider: Are there currently (or have there recently been) any Californian Republicans who would be ‘republican enough’ to win their party nomination and, in the general, ‘liberal’ enough to carry their own state? ( Yes, in the mould of Senator Vinick from _The West Wing_. ) Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/37 "2010-12-21T18:18:54Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I would love for [Paul Ryan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_%28politician%29) or [Scott Walker](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_%28politician%29) to be on the ticket, at very least as VP if not for President. You want Scott Walker the _county commissioner_ to run for President? Seriously, why stop there if we’re just going to name conservatives with ties Wisconsin? Brett Favre won’t have much to do next year. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/38 "2010-12-21T21:05:13Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > You want Scott Walker the _county commissioner_ to run for President? Seriously, why stop there if we’re just going to name conservatives with ties Wisconsin? Brett Favre won’t have much to do next year. Scott Walker is the Governor-elect. Before that he has been the County Executive of the largest metro-area of the state, and before that he was in the state legislature. By 2012 he will have had way more executive experience that Obama had. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/39 "2010-12-22T14:18:19Z")
Being Governor is reasonably relevant executive experience. However, Milwaukee County has a population comfortably under a million. Granted, it’s not Wasila, but it’s not much more relevant. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603/40 "2010-12-22T17:38:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Being Governor is reasonably relevant executive experience. > > However, Milwaukee County has a population comfortably under a million. [959,521](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_County,_Wisconsin) is “_comfortably under a million_”? Why, it’s practically the sister city of Glenbeulah.😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-u-s-election/559603.md?page=3)