# 2013 NFL Week 17 (Final Week of Regular Season) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 29, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420 "2013-12-29T18:34:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/21 "2013-12-29T22:36:55Z")
This defense needs to be blown up. Inexcusable. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/22 "2013-12-29T22:38:04Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Packers get 2 ridiculous calls so far. You mean the one where McClellin tried to re-break Rodgers’ collarbone after he was already down? Yeah, that was an iffy call. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/23 "2013-12-29T22:39:07Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > This defense needs to be blown up. Inexcusable. Bizarre play. I thought it was a fumble and was amazed that no one made a play for the ball. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/24 "2013-12-29T22:39:24Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > All the teams I care about have clinched playoff spots, so my main interest today is whether Manning breaks the season yardage record. Looks like he got it. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/25 "2013-12-29T22:42:18Z")
Manning padding stats with 266/ 4 in the first half… show off… ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/26 "2013-12-29T22:42:28Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Bizarre play. I thought it was a fumble and was amazed that no one made a play for the ball. Refs got it right. Disgusted with James Anderson and the lack of discipline from Tucker’s defense in general. If he’s not fired I’ll be furious. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/27 "2013-12-29T22:44:20Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Looks like he got it. yup, 4 TDs and 266 yards in the first half. Pretty much put the game away and clinched home field advantage, too. I wonder what he would have done with Welker playing? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/28 "2013-12-29T22:44:35Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > You mean the one where McClellin tried to re-break Rodgers’ collarbone after he was already down? Yeah, that was an iffy call. That’s not what I saw, but I suppose I’m pulling for the Bears even though I don’t give a shit about this game, because even if the Bears win, there is no fucking way they are getting anywhere with that defense. Hell, even the announcers thought it was a dumb call. I just saw a guy whose momentum led him into Rodgers. But you disagree, so be it. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/29 "2013-12-29T22:44:50Z")
Clearly, I’m confused about the rules about the offense being able to advance a fumble. A look at Wikipedia tells me that all of the “fumbles” I’ve been thinking of that were controversial this year were actually muffs. ---
**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/30 "2013-12-29T22:45:50Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Packers get 2 ridiculous calls so far. Why settle for two? ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/31 "2013-12-29T22:46:22Z")
Another fumble. Oh the humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/32 "2013-12-29T22:54:01Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I just saw a guy whose momentum led him into Rodgers. But you disagree, so be it. I wouldn’t have made the call at all, but Rodgers was clearly down and McClellin took the opportunity to roll on top of him. It was nothing that doesn’t happen every game, and I wouldn’t have flagged it, but it wasn’t this huge travesty. And the end result was that the Packers ended up with a field goal rather than having to end up with a field goal. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/33 "2013-12-29T22:56:59Z")
> [@Carl\_Corey](#): > > Another fumble. Oh the humanity. I was hoping for a well played, tough fought game, but it’s been a bad game for both teams. Rodgers is off on his passes and is clearly out of rhythm calling plays, but the Bears aren’t impressing at all and the mental lapse on the TD and the fumble are costing them the game. Bad game so far. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/34 "2013-12-29T23:25:39Z")
Can somebody explain the logic of a third down punt? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/35 "2013-12-29T23:31:47Z")
Dear Alshon, Merry Christmas. Here, have this touchdown. Love, Morgan Burnett and Sam Shields. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/36 "2013-12-29T23:34:04Z")
By the by, the Rams v. Sea Hawks game is out of control. Bunch of assholes in that game. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/37 "2013-12-29T23:36:50Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I wouldn’t have made the call at all, but Rodgers was clearly down and McClellin took the opportunity to roll on top of him. It was nothing that doesn’t happen every game, and I wouldn’t have flagged it, but it wasn’t this huge travesty. And the end result was that the Packers ended up with a field goal rather than having to end up with a field goal. Would have been 4th and a mile with a 50+ FG. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/38 "2013-12-29T23:48:52Z")
[Browns are gonna fire Chud](http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10210695/rob-chudzinski-fired-cleveland-browns-head-coach)? WTF? I don’t get that at all. I can’t think of any glaringly bad decisions he’s made this season. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/39 "2013-12-29T23:49:42Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Dear Alshon, > > Merry Christmas. Here, have this touchdown. > > Love, > > Morgan Burnett and Sam Shields. Its moot, but why exactly wasn’t that a TD? Also, nice catch Marshall! ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420/40 "2013-12-29T23:53:00Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Its moot, but why exactly wasn’t that a TD?[ I thought it was, but maybe his shoulder was down at the .5 inch line. Your guess is as good as mine. > [@Omni](#): > > ] > > Also, nice catch Marshall! Not that I expect a call, but when you get to push off like that, it’s a bit easier. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-nfl-week-17-final-week-of-regular-season/677420.md?page=3)