# 2013 Oscars - the nominees are... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 16, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965 "2014-01-16T14:56:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/1 "2014-01-16T14:56:04Z")
I don’t _think_ we have a thread for the Oscars now that the nominations are out. If there is one, I apologize. I sat in my car in the parking lot at work to listen to the live announcement of the nominees. The list is [here](http://www.oscar.com). - Yay for Sally Hawkins! I thought a nomination was too much to hope for but I was wrong. (A nomination for Andrew Dice Clay was too much to hope for). - Surprising snubs: Emma Thompson and Robert Redford. I’m more disappointed for Redford. But Best Actor was a really tough category this year. - Surprising inclusions: Jonah Hill and Meryl Streep. I know you never bet against Meryl, but I was really expecting Thompson to take this slot. Speaking of Thompson: _Saving Mr. Banks_ got exactly the same number of nominations as _Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa_. Guess the Academy wasn’t impressed by the Mouse’s whitewashing of history. And usually they love movies about movies; but not this time. ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/2 "2014-01-16T15:29:18Z")
Sally Hawkins was the most exciting nomination for me. It almost makes up for her not getting nominated for **Happy-Go-Lucky**. Boo for no Robert Redford, though. I generally don’t root against people or films, but I can’t say that I’m upset about **Saving Mr. Banks** almost being shut out. I am hugely disappointed in the lack of **Inside Llewyn Davis** recognition. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/3 "2014-01-16T15:32:18Z")
“Two-time Oscar nominee Jonah Hill.” What a strange world we live in. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/4 "2014-01-16T15:50:58Z")
Alone in my car, I cheered when they named Sally Hawkins. I had an outside hope for a BP nod for _Blue Jasmine_ but it was not to be. Holy crap, I’ve only seen 4 of the 9 BP nominees. I squandered my time on _Saving Mr. Banks_ and _Blue Jasmine_! and _Anchorman 2_ Hopefully the Oscar recognition will keep the ones I’ve missed in the theaters a few more weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/5 "2014-01-16T17:34:51Z")
I’ve only seen _one_ of them (Gravity). What seems slightly weird to me is that they’re all from the last three or four months and I think they’re all still in the theaters. Some years, some of the nominated titles have already been released on DVD by the time the nominations are announced. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/6 "2014-01-16T17:59:15Z")
Redford was the bitter pill this morning. Aside from **Nebraska** , his film was my favorite of the year–a beautiful film, and he has never been better in an interesting (and vastly underrated) career. And by all appearances, still underrated, though he is also a notorious non-shmoozer and did very little to campaign. Bale and DiCaprio took the spots that Hanks & Redford were expected to take, and it’s a tribute to what a tough category it was, because Hanks was very good (especially that last scene), but DiCaprio had also rarely been better. I would’ve been happy to see Bale get bumped. Adams also took Thompson’s spot, and as good as the latter was, I don’t feel bad because of how much I hated **Saving Mr. Banks**. Adams is also the only one in that category without an Oscar, but she would get my vote because hers is the best in an otherwise vastly overrated film. The biggest (welcome) surprise in Supporting Actress was Hawkins, who got the coattail-bump, as did Jonah Hill. Sorry Oprah! Chris Helmsworth must’ve been put out because you know they asked him to be up there because Daniel Bruhl was expected to score a nod, too. He didn’t. For Director, the biggest surprise was Alexander Payne, though I loved the film so can’t begrudge him, though seeing Spike Jonze in there would’ve been beautiful. Two directors of color in the mix, and neither named Ang Lee (the only non-white winner ever). Final Tallies 10 - _American Hustle, Gravity_ 9 - _12 Years a Slave_ 6 - _Captain Phillips, Dallas Buyers Club, Nebraska_ 5 - _Her, The Wolf of Wall Street_ 4- _Philomena_ 3 - _Blue Jasmine, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug_ 2 - _August: Osage County, Despicable Me 2, Frozen, The Grandmaster, The Great Gatsby, Inside Llewyn Davis, The Lone Ranger, Lone Survivor_ ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/7 "2014-01-16T18:08:39Z")
Other odds & ends 3 actors–Steve Coogan, Julie Delpy & Ethan Hawke–walk away with writing nods. Renaissance Men Alfonso Cuaron & Spike Jonze get nominated in atypical categories (Editing & Song, respectively) Benedict Cumberbatch (_August: Osage, Hobbit/Smaug, Star Trek Into Darkness_) & Paul Giamatti (_12 Years, Mr. Banks, Ernest & Celestine_) each have 3 films nominated. With 15 total, the films of Amy Adams (_Hustle, Her_) have the most nominations. Woody Allen earns his 16th writing nomination. Meryl Streep gets her 18th acting nomination. John Williams gets his 49th music nomination (_The Book Thief_). Each is an all-time leader in their respective category. Competing against _Jackass Presents Bad Grandpa_ and _The Lone Ranger_, the inevitable Best Makeup award for _Dallas Buyers Club_ is the one true bet-the-farm category. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/8 "2014-01-16T18:41:42Z")
Feeding my masochistic tendencies, I immediately went to the online comments on the story version I read. There were only 5 (at that point) but 2 were decrying “propaganda” and “libtards” (no specifics). SMH…everything is politicized these days. But I’m at a loss to guess what they were whining about; unless you consider mothers looking for adopted sons some sort of liberal conspiracy, or that Wall St might be filled with hookers & blow is anti-capitalist. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/9 "2014-01-16T18:57:39Z")
Again a popular, important documentary is snubbed. Last year it was _Chasing Ice_ and this year it is _Blackfish_. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/10 "2014-01-16T19:15:30Z")
The documentary nominations always seem to deliberately exclude films with popular buzz, like _Blackfish_. Spike Jonze should have received the directing nod over Scorcese. Marty is a legend; but WoWS is not his best work and needed to be trimmed. I mean, it’s clever that a movie about unbridled excess had a way-too-long running time, but still. My other disappointments: - would’ve been nice to see Gandolfini nominated as some had speculated. - I’m still shaking my head at the (apparent) _Mr. Banks_ backlash. It was a flawed movie and not in my personal top 5 but it really seemed Oscar-primed. - _American Hustle_ got its share of nominations, but I can’t figure out why it was excluded from Makeup. Look at all that hair! ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/11 "2014-01-16T19:33:08Z")
I wasn’t crazy about **Blackfish** , so I wasn’t bothered to see that left out (although I was surprised). I was way more annoyed to see **Stories We Tell** get left out. That was my favorite doc of the year. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/12 "2014-01-16T20:17:30Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > _Saving Mr. Banks_ got exactly the same number of nominations as _Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa_. …which is more than _The Hunger Games: Catching Fire_, _Man of Steel_, and _Lee Daniels’ The Butler_ _ **combined** _ received. None of the five animated feature nominees are from Pixar. (_Frozen_ is “in-house” Disney. Something I didn’t realize until I just looked it up: so is _Planes_. The only Pixar feature-length film in 2013 was _Monsters University_.) One thing I noticed in the announcement (and in the official list): Bono and The Edge (nominated as co-songwriters of “Ordinary Love” from _Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom_) are listed by their real names (just as Adele was last year), but Karen O (nominated for co-writing “The Moon Song” from _Her_) is allowed to be called by her stage name. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/13 "2014-01-16T20:32:56Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > …which is more than _The Hunger Games: Catching Fire_, _Man of Steel_, and _Lee Daniels’ The Butler_ _ **combined** _ received. Good point. People had pretty high expectations of _The Butler_ when it came out in August. I think some folks back then would have been surprised to learn it would not get a single nomination in any category. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/14 "2014-01-16T20:37:19Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Good point. People had pretty high expectations of _The Butler_ when it came out in August. I think some folks back then would have been surprised to learn it would not get a single nomination in any category. EW includes Oprah in The Butler amongst their list of “Oscar snubs”. I haven’t seen the movie; was there any buzz at all about her performance (beyond the fact that she was acting at all?) ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/15 "2014-01-16T20:46:39Z")
Yes, she got a Screen Actors Guild nomination. Plus, when the movie was released, there were plenty of people out there saying that she was a straight-up lock for a nomination or even the win. Which seemed crazy to me; she’s fine in the movie, but not even remotely one of the best of the year. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/16 "2014-01-16T20:51:21Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > One thing I noticed in the announcement (and in the official list): Bono and The Edge (nominated as co-songwriters of “Ordinary Love” from _Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom_) are listed by their real names (just as Adele was last year), but Karen O (nominated for co-writing “The Moon Song” from _Her_) is allowed to be called by her stage name. I think that’s based completely on how they chose to be credited onscreen in the film itself. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/17 "2014-01-16T21:46:37Z")
I always try to see the Oscar-nominated animated shorts each year. Seems like a [good crop](http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/motion-graphics/animation-vfx-oscars-2014-nominations-announced/). ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/18 "2014-01-16T22:23:02Z")
I am most astonished that [Muscle Shoals](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2492916/?ref_=nv_sr_1) didn’t even get _nominated_ for best documentary. [Paste Magazine had it pegged as the best documentary of the year](http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2014/01/freddy-camalier-documentarian-of-the-year.html), and I agree with that assessment. Even if you don’t, I can’t imagine anyone who has watched this movie not at least wanting to give it a nomination. ---
**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/19 "2014-01-16T23:05:17Z")
It was nice seeing Bob Nelson (from the iconic Seattle TV series [_Almost Live!_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almost_Live!)) get a nod for best original screenplay for \*Nebraska. \* Here he is as one of his best characters: [Uncle Fran](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHqHMgK0tQw) ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/20 "2014-01-16T23:13:05Z")
I really thought this was going to be the year that I managed to see all five foreign-language films before the ceremony, but **Wadjda** , **The Past** , and **Gloria** getting left out basically puts the kibosh on that. I’ve seen **The Broken Circle Breakdown** (Belgium), **The Hunt** (Denmark), and **The Great Beauty** (Italy), and while I don’t really love any of them, the Italy’s entry is probably my favorite. I’ll have to catch **Omar** and **The Missing Picture** when they’re released sometime this year. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965.md?page=2)