# 2013 Oscars - the nominees are...

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**Created:** [January 16, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965 "2014-01-16T14:56:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/21 "2014-01-16T23:20:20Z")

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I’m shocked that Robert Redford and _All Is Lost_ received so little love from the Academy, but very pleased to see _Nebraska_ being recognized. And _A Hijacking_ deserved some recognition as well.

Really, though, what this list made me realize is that 2013 was a wonderful year for films.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/22 "2014-01-16T23:23:34Z")

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Granted that the win is going to go to either the Hobbit or Gravity (probably Hobbit; Smaug was very impressive), but I was surprised that Pacific Rim didn’t even get nominated for visual effects.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/23 "2014-01-16T23:31:42Z")

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Two movies which should have received some Oscar love:

[Mud](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1935179/?ref_=nv_sr_1)  
[The Way Way Back](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1727388/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

And I don’t think _Captain Phillips_ is worthy of a nomination. The rest are worth the attention. (At least the ones I’ve seen. Haven’t seen _Gravity_ and _Her_ yet.)

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/24 "2014-01-16T23:44:41Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> One thing I noticed in the announcement (and in the official list): Bono and The Edge (nominated as co-songwriters of “Ordinary Love” from _Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom_) are listed by their real names (just as Adele was last year), but Karen O (nominated for co-writing “The Moon Song” from _Her_) is allowed to be called by her stage name.

Which is funny as, if I remember right, David Evans legally changed his name to “The Edge” a few years ago.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/25 "2014-01-17T01:49:41Z")

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**Inside Llewyn Davis** really sunk to the bottom like a stone after getting a fair amount of love from the satellite noms and awards.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/26 "2014-01-17T02:44:00Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Haven’t seen _Gravity_ and _Her_ yet.

_Gravity_ was a superbly immersive experience. I saw it in IMAX 3D and it was jaw-dropping. Almost nonstop tension. I was a little put out by the way it played fast and loose with basic orbital mechanics but it was a worthy achievement for the nomination.

I loved _Her_, and I really wish Jonze had received a best director nod. I also thought Joaquin Pheonix and Scarlett Johansen were fabulous. It was a quiet, understated movie that dealt with some really big themes and difficult questions while being, essentially, a touching love story. I’m glad it seems to be peaking now; I’m afraid it would have been lost if it had been released earlier in the year.

FWIW, if any cares, my top 3 favorite movies this year (I can’t decide what order) were _Her_, _Blue Jasmine_ and _American Hustle_. But there were plenty of good movies I didn’t see.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/27 "2014-01-19T02:38:09Z")

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Popping in to mention this is [the first Oscar nomination for Cambodia](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cambodia-celebrates-first-oscar-nomination-671787). I’ve not seen the film myself though, _The Missing Picture_.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/28 "2014-01-19T04:44:49Z")

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So winners?

BP: American Hustle  
BD: Cuaron  
BA: Matthew Maconnaughey  
BA: Amy Adams  
BSA: Michael Fassbender  
BSAt: Jennifer Lawrence

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/29 "2014-01-19T10:00:45Z")

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I like your predictions, but I’d guess

BP: 12 Years A Slave  
BD: Alfonso Cauron  
BA: Matthew McConaughey  
BA: Cate Blanchett  
BSA: Jared Leto  
BSA: Lupita Nyong’o

Not everyone/thing is what I want, it’s just what I think will win.

My votes would go to (nominations too)

BP: Her  
BD: Spike Jonze (Alfonso Cauron)  
BA: Joaquin Phoenix or Robert Redford (Leonardo DiCaprio)  
BA: Brie Larson or Greta Gerwig (Judi Dench)  
BSA: James Franco (Jared Leto)  
BSA: Lupita Nyong’o

But really, I don’t care. Well, it’s not that I don’t care, not in a negative way, I always care about the Oscars. It’s just that since my favorite movies and actor choices either didn’t get nominated or don’t stand a chance, I’m not emotionally invested. I liked just about everything/body that was nominated, so I’ll be happy for every winner.

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**Author:** ![Roundabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dec6dc/32.png) [@Roundabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roundabout)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/30 "2014-01-20T16:21:38Z")

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Matthew McConaughey’s sweeping up all the lead actor awards this year.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/31 "2014-01-20T16:36:39Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> EW includes Oprah in The Butler amongst their list of “Oscar snubs”. I haven’t seen the movie; was there any buzz at all about her performance (beyond the fact that she was acting at all?)

Oprah was really good in a movie that was otherwise “okay,” but pretty disappointing.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/32 "2014-01-20T20:30:54Z")

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What surprised me was that **Catching Fire** didn’t receive a nomination for Best Costumes. That monarch butterfly dress and hat alone should have clinched the win. Besides, costumes are really important to this film, more than in most cases.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/33 "2014-01-20T20:50:03Z")

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BP: American Hustle  
BD: Cuaron  
BA: Matthew Maconnaughey  
BA: Cate Blanchett  
BSA: Jared Leto  
BSAt: Jennifer Lawrence

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/34 "2014-01-20T23:18:49Z")

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And as seems to happen each year with monotonous regularity, I have seen none of the movies for Best Picture, Best Actor/Actress, Director, Screenplay, or Supporting Actor/Actress. The only movie nominated that I have seen is _Despicable Me 2_ (which was quite good). And several of the others I have not even heard of.

I need to get out more.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/35 "2014-01-20T23:32:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> What surprised me was that Catching Fire didn’t receive a nomination for Best Costumes. That monarch butterfly dress and hat alone should have clinched the win. Besides, costumes are really important to this film, more than in most cases.

I haven’t seen it, but somebody in the trailers was wearing a flaming dress that looked really great. Though I’m not sure how much that falls under “costumes” versus “effects”.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/36 "2014-01-21T15:28:09Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> And as seems to happen each year with monotonous regularity, I have seen none of the movies for Best Picture, Best Actor/Actress, Director, Screenplay, or Supporting Actor/Actress. The only movie nominated that I have seen is _Despicable Me 2_ (which was quite good). And several of the others I have not even heard of.
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> I need to get out more.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

I’m with you, almost. I DID see _ **American Hustle** _, which was very well acted but at least 20 minutes too long.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/37 "2014-01-21T19:37:41Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I haven’t seen it, but somebody in the trailers was wearing a flaming dress that looked really great. Though I’m not sure how much that falls under “costumes” versus “effects”.

Exactly. Guilds and Branches can be very picky about achievements that have significant augmentation through visual effects. Makeup is another category where this can be seen.

Of course, these days, “Cinematography” and “Visual Effects” are synonymous–the last 4 films (_Avatar, Hugo, Inception, Life of Pi_) to win one also won the other, an unprecedented achievement (and _Gravity_ is very likely to follow suit). 4 of those 5 listed were also in 3D, so it appears the general voters are conflating the two more & more, which makes the reticence of the other branches understandable.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/38 "2014-01-22T01:30:47Z")

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I don’t know; if it were up to me, I’d give cinematography to Gravity, and effects to The Hobbit.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/39 "2014-01-22T04:06:14Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I’m with you, almost. I DID see _ **American Hustle** _, which was very well acted but at least 20 minutes too long.

If _Silver Linings Playbook_ didn’t win Best Picture, then I find it difficult to believe that _American Hustle_, a good film but inferior to _SLP_, will.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-oscars-the-nominees-are/678965/40 "2014-01-22T07:53:07Z")

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_Nebraska_ pretty much had two male leads: Bruce Dern and Will Forte. Their roles were weighted pretty evenly. So, they just as legitimately could have submitted Bruce Dern in the Supporting Actor category- and I think they were fools not to do so.

If Bruce Dern had been submitted in the Supporting Actor category it would have been an almost guaranteed win. Jared Leto would have been his only real competition.

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