# 2013 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees announced (Rush made it!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 11, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736 "2012-12-11T19:50:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/21 "2012-12-12T17:45:06Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > I can give a pass on Donna Summer, Disco sucks but it came from Rock and Roll, but I refuse to accept Public Enemy as Rock and Roll. Public Enemy is more rock & roll than Heart or Randy Newman, who, musically at least (I’ll give Newman points for subversive lyrics), were about as conservative as you can get. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/22 "2012-12-12T17:54:07Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Good list. I can see people getting annoyed at the inclusion of Donna Summer, but they really need to listen to songs like “Hot Stuff” and “Bad Girls” and tell me _to my face_ that they don’t rock. I agree Donna Summer is a worthy inductee. It’s too bad it’s posthumous. It really should have occurred during her lifetime. “On the Radio” is one of my all-time favorite songs. ---
**Author:** ![tomcar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tomcar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomcar)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/23 "2012-12-12T18:14:04Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Public Enemy is more rock & roll than Heart or Randy Newman, who, musically at least (I’ll give Newman points for subversive lyrics), were about as conservative as you can get. As far as spirit goes, PE makes the Sex Pistols look like Mitt Romney. ---
**Author:** ![President\_Johnny\_Gentle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@President\_Johnny\_Gentle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/President_Johnny_Gentle)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/24 "2012-12-12T20:10:16Z")
> [@tomcar](#): > > As far as spirit goes, PE makes the Sex Pistols look like Mitt Romney. And songs like “Bring the Noise” are definitely from a rock pedigree, even before you take the Anthrax/PE version of the song into account. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/25 "2012-12-12T20:17:03Z")
Glad that PE and Donna Summer got in. I would have loved to see Chic get in, which honestly doesn’t make sense if Donna Summer was inducted - they were much more influential. Color me surprised that Quincy Jones _wasn’t_ in the R&RHOF. Dude produced three of the biggest albums in rock history (_Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad_). Not a Rush fan but they probably deserved it. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/26 "2012-12-12T22:40:50Z")
I was pleased that Alex Lifeson took Rush’s induction as an opportunity to campaign for Yes and King Crimson. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/27 "2012-12-12T23:18:01Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > Wow! I didn’t see that one coming at all. I figured they were this year’s KISS, a nomination to shut up the vocal fans, but not an inductee. I suspect every HoF voter who likes Rush even a smidgen figured they’d better vote for 'em now, because there’s no way the nominating committee would let them through a second time. [QUOTE=Hippy Hollow] Color me surprised that Quincy Jones wasn’t in the R&RHOF. Dude produced three of the biggest albums in rock history (Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad). [/QUOTE] Critic Dave Marsh (in the New Book of Rock Lists) blames the speech Jones gave inducting Atlantic Records’ co-founder Neshui Ertegun into the Hall: “Quincy’s windy speech said little about Ertegun, but a great deal about himself, most of the coherent parts concerning his own qualifications for the Hall. Those twenty minutes probably cost Quincy whatever chance he may have had for induction, at least during his lifetime, since all inductees give speeches and nobody’s about to risk sitting though another one of his.” ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/28 "2012-12-13T00:06:19Z")
> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#): > > I would have loved to see Chic get in, which honestly doesn’t make sense if Donna Summer was inducted - they were much more influential. I think that’s attributable to the fact that Donna Summer died this year, whereas Bernie Edwards died 5 years before Chic was even eligible. Although that doesn’t explain why they didn’t get a nod when Tony Thompson died. Damn, that was one monster rhythm section! The RRHOF seems to limit themselves to one act per non-mainstream rock genre per year, and this year’s disco nod went to the recently deceased. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/29 "2012-12-13T00:53:58Z")
I’ve heard of Rush. but don’t think I could name a song or identify one if I heard it. Not a fan at all of Donna Summer nor of Public Enemy. Good for them getting honored, I guess. The other choices I like. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/30 "2012-12-13T01:01:13Z")
> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#): > > Glad that PE and Donna Summer got in. I would have loved to see Chic get in, which honestly doesn’t make sense if Donna Summer was inducted - they were much more influential. As I said in [the nomination thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15556362&postcount=29): \* One song that connects Grandmaster Flash, Queen and Daft Punk? That **alone** should put them in the Hall of Fame. \* ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/31 "2012-12-13T01:04:44Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > …I’ve heard of Rush. but don’t think I could name a song or identify one if I heard it… Wow. Let me say that Rush is far from my favorite, but c’mon. You don’t think you could identify a Rush song? Am I that Old, or are you that Young??? https://www.youtube.com/embed/LQEgZNqa8jE?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/32 "2012-12-13T01:37:13Z")
It’ll never happen, but my dream scenario for the R & R induction ceremony? Rush takes the stage, and Geddy announces that, while they were SUPPOSED to play “Tom Sawyer,” they’ve changed the program, and are going to perform _ **Caress of Steel** _ in its entirety, with a 20 minute Peart drum solo in the middle! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/33 "2012-12-13T01:41:33Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Wow. Let me say that Rush is far from my favorite, but c’mon. You don’t think you could identify a Rush song? Am I that Old, or are you that Young??? > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQEgZNqa8jE](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQEgZNqa8jE) Maybe I’m too old. I went to your link, then to some others featuring the band. I did recognize one part of one song. After listening to a sample of their work, all I can say is boy, I am really not a fan. Don’t know how I missed out being more aware of their work, however, according to Wikipeadia, they were popular most of my adult life, and were starting out in my youth. Life is funny that way. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/34 "2012-12-13T01:49:39Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Now, to what extent that was written by them, versus their PR agent – or if it represents their unvarnished POV on the topic – who knows, but they’re being publicly gracious, and a little tongue-in-cheek. Eh, it reads (to me) exactly like something they’d say, based on things I’ve heard them say in interviews. > [@astorian](#): > > It’ll never happen, but my dream scenario for the R & R induction ceremony? Rush takes the stage, and Geddy announces that, while they were SUPPOSED to play “Tom Sawyer,” they’ve changed the program, and are going to perform _ **Caress of Steel** _ in its entirety, with a 20 minute Peart drum solo in the middle! Is there a standard time allotment acts are allowed? Because while Tom Sawyer is the _obvious_ choice, I think La Villa Strangiato is a _better_ choice (and would make those who hate Geddy’s voice happier 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/35 "2012-12-13T01:52:01Z")
Meh. Notify me when they induct **Jethro Tull**. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/36 "2012-12-13T01:56:29Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Meh. Notify me when they induct **Jethro Tull**. I like the cut of your jib. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/37 "2012-12-13T01:58:28Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > It’ll never happen, but my dream scenario for the R & R induction ceremony? Rush takes the stage, and Geddy announces that, while they were SUPPOSED to play “Tom Sawyer,” they’ve changed the program, and are going to perform _ **Caress of Steel** _ in its entirety, with a 20 minute Peart drum solo in the middle! I’m positive you meant that the ideal situation would be for them to announce they’re stepping aside for Iron Butterfly so that Ron Bushy can play a 20 minute drum solo in the middle of “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida”. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/38 "2012-12-13T02:22:20Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > I think that’s attributable to the fact that Donna Summer died this year, whereas Bernie Edwards died 5 years before Chic was even eligible. Although that doesn’t explain why they didn’t get a nod when Tony Thompson died. Damn, that was one monster rhythm section! > The RRHOF seems to limit themselves to one act per non-mainstream rock genre per year, and this year’s disco nod went to the recently deceased. It really is criminal that they were not inducted. Chic itself combined R&B, funk, jazz, and rock and made it danceable - I mean, I can’t really abide much disco, but Chic superceded the stuff that it shares the “disco” label with. And as every rock fan knows, Rodgers and Edwards resurrected many an icon from the scrapheap of history. Madonna. Diana Ross. David Bowie. Duran Duran. Robert Palmer. And they usually had Tony Thompson with them too. 3/5ths of that band pretty much colored the 1980s. Okay “scrapheap” is a little strong. Nonetheless, they should fucking be in the RRHOF. I mean, I like Donna Summer, but she was very much of one time. Gifted singer, but you really need to induct Giorgio Moroder at the same time. Summer’s post-disco output was not that great - she did some stuff with Stock-Aiken-Waterman, who basically tried to kill music in the late 80s. If there was going to be ONE representative from the “disco” era it needs to be Chic and everybody else about 10 miles behind. ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/39 "2012-12-13T03:27:49Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Meh. Notify me when they induct **Jethro Tull**. Eh, they missed their best chance in 2009. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736/40 "2012-12-13T06:33:29Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I’m positive you meant that the ideal situation would be for them to announce they’re stepping aside for Iron Butterfly so that Ron Bushy can play a 20 minute drum solo in the middle of “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida”. Let’s hope not. Aside from maybe the solo on _Kiss Alive!_, that one on “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida” is probably the worst ever recorded. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced-rush-made-it/643736.md?page=3)