# 2013 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations announced

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 16, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392 "2013-10-16T12:48:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/21 "2013-10-16T19:57:17Z")

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Along those same lines, I wonder if the stage would be big enough for the Deep Purple family, and how they would handle Ritchie getting up there with the rest of the gang.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/22 "2013-10-16T20:01:34Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Still no Dick Dale, still no Surfaris.

Still no Johnny Rivers.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/23 "2013-10-16T20:56:19Z")

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I wonder if LL Cool J is pressing for the HOF Induction Ceremony to be broadcast on CBS. It’s probably his only hope.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/24 "2013-10-16T20:59:51Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Along those same lines, I wonder if the stage would be big enough for the Deep Purple family, and how they would handle Ritchie getting up there with the rest of the gang.

Well, Jon Lord just passed away and Tommy Bolin died years ago, so there’s, who…

1. Ian Gillan
2. Steve Morse
3. Don Airey
4. Roger Glover
5. Ian Paice
6. Ritchie Blackmore
7. Rod Evans
8. Nicky Simper
9. David Coverdale
10. Glenn Hughes
11. Joe Lynn Turner

Even if all 11 survivors showed up, that’s not unmanageable. As I’ve said before, hough, I’d love for Ritchie to show up in elf shoes and a cape, carrying a lute, insisting on playing “Highway Star” in Renaissance Fest style!

As for Yes…

1. Chris Squire
2. Alan White
3. Bill Bruford
4. Peter Banks
5. Steve Howe
6. Trevor Rabin
7. Tony Kaye
8. Rick Wakeman
9. Patrick Moraz
10. Geoff Downes
11. Oliver Wakeman
12. Jon Anderson
13. Trevor Horn
14. David Benoit
15. Jon Davison

I may have missed somebody (or a few somebodies), but that’s still not unmanageable.

If King Crimson ever gets elected, though, watch out!!!

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/25 "2013-10-16T21:09:48Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> I’d love for The Replacements to get in - they’re easily my favorite act on the list - but I don’t think there’s a chance in hell they’ll make it this year.

Same here. It always bothers me when I think about the fact that Tommy Stinson has been in Guns 'n Roses longer than he was in The Replacements. ☹

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/26 "2013-10-16T21:21:34Z")

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Aw dang… in my research, I just found out something I hadn’t known- original Yes guitarist Peter Banks died this past Spring.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/27 "2013-10-16T23:01:09Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> If King Crimson ever gets elected, though, watch out!!!

By my count, there have been 22 King Crimson members since 1969, counting non-performing founding member Pete Sinfield, and Bill Rieflin and Jakko Jakszyk, who are part of the recently announced reformation but have yet to actually record or perform with the band. Two out of the 22 are deceased (Ian Wallace and Boz Burrell).

Yes doesn’t stand a chance. Despite the Hall’s well-known aversion to prog, they’ll probably get in eventually, but not on their first nomination. I see Deep Purple taking the '70s classic rock slot this time around.

Linda Ronstadt’s nomination is so obviously a sympathy vote that it’s embarrassing. Not that she doesn’t deserve it, but sheesh.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/28 "2013-10-16T23:02:45Z")

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> [@Lips\_Obsession](#):
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> Sorry but Genesis was inducted in 2010.
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> I’d like to see Gabriel inducted solo, but I like his work with Genesis much more than his solo stuff.

I’m a minority of one in this thread then I guess.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/29 "2013-10-16T23:24:13Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I’m a minority of one in this thread then I guess.

I love his solo stuff; it is excellent.

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**Author:** ![Gladys\_Overnow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gladys\_Overnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gladys_Overnow)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/30 "2013-10-16T23:48:01Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> My votes would go to Deep Purple, Yes, KISS, Hall and Oates, and Linda.

I second this.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/31 "2013-10-17T00:33:44Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Agreed on all counts.
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> Conventional wisdom has always been that Jann Wenner (and, by extension, the HoF voters) doesn’t like prog rock. Given that Rush, Genesis, and Queen have all made it into the Hall in the past few years, I kind of suspect that the voters may be thinking, “there, you prog nerds, we put some in, now shut up already!”. 😉 (Which is sad, because Yes is one of my favorite bands, but I think they’re always going to be a longshot, at best.)

Queen is prog?

> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I’m a minority of one in this thread then I guess.

I far prefer PG’s solo stuff. Passion by itself blows away anything by Genesis.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/32 "2013-12-17T12:39:39Z")

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> **[Nirvana, Kiss lead Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's class of 2014 inductees](https://www.today.com/entertainment/nirvana-kiss-lead-rock-roll-hall-fames-class-2014-inductees-2D11758786)**
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> The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame officially announced next year's inductees on Monday: Nirvana, Kiss, Peter Gabriel, Hall and Oates, Cat Stevens and Linda Ronstadt will all join the class of 2014. The E Street Band will be given the Award for Musical...

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> The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame officially announced next year’s inductees on Monday: **Nirvana** , **Kiss** , **Peter Gabriel** , **Hall and Oates** , \*\*Cat Stevens \*\*and \*\*Linda Ronstadt \*\*will all join the class of 2014. The E Street Band will be given the Award for Musical Excellence and Beatles manager Brian Epstein and original Rolling Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldgham will both receive the Ahmet Ertegun Award for non-performers.

Interesting.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/33 "2013-12-17T13:06:41Z")

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They passed up Deep Purple again, to induct… CAT FUCKING STEVENS???

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/34 "2013-12-17T14:02:07Z")

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Cat Stevens deserves to be in there.

I’m a huge Deep Purple fan, and I’m sure their time will come.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/35 "2013-12-17T14:14:39Z")

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No Replacements either… not that they give a flying fuck! In fact they may be more inclined to do more shows as a result and would provide some great on-stage banter.

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**Author:** ![Roundabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dec6dc/32.png) [@Roundabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roundabout)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/36 "2013-12-17T14:42:21Z")

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Hall and Oates are finally getting their due. Awesome.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/37 "2013-12-17T16:28:47Z")

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Still no Link Wray, huh? Ehh, it wouldn’t have changed my opinion of the institution.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/38 "2013-12-17T16:42:54Z")

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Cat Stevens was the kind of musician young nuns would play at folk Mass in the early Seventies, to show how hip and cool they were.

Yeah, Sister, you ROCK! You sang “Morning Has Broken” during the processional.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/39 "2013-12-17T16:50:13Z")

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There was fan voting as a part of this.

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> For a second year, the Rock Hall implemented fan voting in choosing this year’s inductees, which was available on its official site, Rolling Stone and USA TODAY, and generated nearly 1.4 million votes this year. The five artists with the highest number of votes (three of whom will be inducted) made up a fans’ ballot, which counted as a single vote in choosing this year’s honorees.
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> Among fans, Kiss (239,000 votes) and Nirvana (218,000) enjoyed easy victories. Two artists that failed to receive induction despite swells of public support were Yes (151,000) and Deep Purple (166,000), beaten out in the overall balloting by Hall & Oates (113,000), Peter Gabriel (111,000), Linda Ronstadt (85,000) and Cat Stevens (75,000).

Did anyone here take part? And if so can you explain that line about five artists counting as a single vote?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations-announced/671392/40 "2013-12-17T17:10:54Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Did anyone here take part? And if so can you explain that line about five artists counting as a single vote?

I voted, repeatedly.

What it means is that the fans, in essence, get one ballot, and that ballot contains the five top vote-getters from the online poll. That ballot is put into the mix, along with all of the other ballots from the actual HOF voting committee – which, according to the [HOF web site](http://rockhall.com/inductees/induction-process/), consists of “more than 600 artists, historians, and members of the music industry”. So, the fans’ votes count for something less than 1/600th of the overall vote.

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