# 2013 SDMB March Madness Tournament Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 17, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178 "2013-03-17T15:57:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/61 "2013-03-25T04:04:43Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Remaining:
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> 11 of 16  
> 7 of 8  
> 4 of 4

Same here. I’m having a pretty decent year by my standards, which aren’t very high.

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/62 "2013-03-25T04:23:11Z")

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Yay, I’m tied with our wonderful Commissioner.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/63 "2013-03-25T04:23:49Z")

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10 of 16  
7 of 8  
4 of 4

Here is where I will win or lose it. I have Louisville, Ohio State, Miami and Florida in the Final Four.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/64 "2013-03-25T04:31:59Z")

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I’m only in 24th place, but my Gators have been kicking buttocks (save for the first few minutes of the second half against Minnesota). I’ll be the only one laughing when Florida wins the title, as no one else picked them. We are taking OVER!

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/65 "2013-03-25T05:59:36Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> …(shakes fist at **Knorf**.)

Don’t worry … it won’t last.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/66 "2013-03-25T23:33:32Z")

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I’ve gone through the brackets and figured up the remaining points for each one. Hopefully I didn’t screw this up. Feel free to check my work. 😉

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Bracket Name - Total Pts - Teams Left Per Round - Pts Remaining
Rock Chalk 52	5-3-2-1 43
Knorf's Baloney Bracket 52	7-3-1-1 44
toeJam's WM Pugs! 51	5-4-2-1 47
Wolverines! 51	7-4-2-1 53
mtrg's Rad Bracket 50	5-2-1-1 34
Oakminster 48	7-4-2-1 53
John's First-Rate Bracket	48	7-4-2-1 53
My Matchless Bracket 48	6-2-1-1 37
Paul's Sheet of Integrity	47	6-3-2-1 46
Hamlett's Coin Flips 47	6-4-2-1 50
Southern Yankee's Early Exit	46	6-2-1-1 37
Mullytown 46	6-4-2-1 50
Labrador Deceiver's Bracket	46	6-2-2-1 42
Shoeless 45	5-3-2-1 43
Lamar Mundane 45	7-4-2-1 53
Wingin' It 45	6-2-2-1 42
Go Badgers (fiddlesticks)	45	4-3-2-1 40
Terms of Enrampagement 45	7-3-2-1 49
HubZilla Rock Chalk 44	6-4-2-1 50
MOIDALIZE's Region of Death	44	6-4-2-1 50
wolfmans winners 44	5-2-1-1 34
hrhomer SDMB Bracket 44	6-3-2-1 46
F kansas 43	5-2-1-1 34
Ke$ha fan Gator man 42	6-3-2-1 46
Mensa's Ramblin Wreck 41	7-4-2-1 53
Hungry Hungry Haruspex 41	6-3-1-1 41
PCM77's Genius Bracket 41	5-2-0-0 23
Frosty's Picks 41	6-4-2-1 50
Cheesehead Paradise 40	6-2-1-0 31
Shoeless's Blind Bracket	40	6-3-2-1 46
ToeJam's UpSeT Brack 40	5-2-0-0 23
Andrew's Amazing Bracket	40	4-3-2-1 40
Dana Kirk's Prison Team 38	2-2-1-0 19
Circus Peanuts 38	3-1-1-1 24
Pancakes... for 3 37	4-3-2-1 40
zoog 37	5-3-1-1 38
etv78's picks 37	5-3-2-1 43
I Have No Mouth And I Must Fap	26	1-0-0-0 3

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/67 "2013-03-26T00:07:02Z")

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I’m tied for the lead in “total points remaining.” What’s there to check? 😉

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/68 "2013-03-26T13:57:52Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I’ve gone through the brackets and figured up the remaining points for each one. Hopefully I didn’t screw this up. Feel free to check my work. 😉

The “points remaining” numbers look like they are all based on 3-4-5-6 without any upset bonus.

Then again, is upset bonus based on picking an upset, picking a team to win that ended up beating a favorite even if you picked it to beat an underdog, or both?  
For example, you picked Florida (a 3) to upset Georgetown (a 2) in the round of 16, but Florida is playing Florida-Gulf Coast (a 15); if Florida wins, does that count as “picking an upset”? How about if you picked Arizona (a 6) to beat New Mexico (a 2) in the 16, but they beat Ohio State (a 3) instead?  
If it’s based on who the team actually beats, even if you didn’t pick it as an upset, then it becomes that much harder to determine “maximum points” as you have to go through pretty much all of the 32,768 remaining ways for the tournament to end.

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**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/69 "2013-03-26T14:36:30Z")

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Woot I am in first and fourth in my brackets… but its still early 😃

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/70 "2013-03-26T22:12:06Z")

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Of people playing to win, I’m in last place! (The person behind me picked all klahc) (reverse chalk)

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/71 "2013-03-29T01:12:20Z")

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I’m about to lose one of my final four (but not final two). Ohio State coming back vs. Arizona is saving another of my FF.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/72 "2013-03-29T01:46:48Z")

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That was great watching Marquette clobber Miami.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/73 "2013-03-29T03:05:54Z")

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Jesus is about to freakin’ weep! Indiana, if you go down, I’m coming up there to… I don’t know, yell at you as I’m driving past or something.

Arizona, you go to hell! You go to hell and you die!

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/74 "2013-03-29T03:33:27Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> The “points remaining” numbers look like they are all based on 3-4-5-6 without any upset bonus.
> 
> Then again, is upset bonus based on picking an upset, picking a team to win that ended up beating a favorite even if you picked it to beat an underdog, or both?  
> For example, you picked Florida (a 3) to upset Georgetown (a 2) in the round of 16, but Florida is playing Florida-Gulf Coast (a 15); if Florida wins, does that count as “picking an upset”? How about if you picked Arizona (a 6) to beat New Mexico (a 2) in the 16, but they beat Ohio State (a 3) instead?  
> If it’s based on who the team actually beats, even if you didn’t pick it as an upset, then it becomes that much harder to determine “maximum points” as you have to go through pretty much all of the 32,768 remaining ways for the tournament to end.

As far as I know, upset points are awarded only for upsets that you actually picked. So you would not be awarded upset points in either of your examples. Fla would have to beat Georgetown and AZ would have to beat NM for you to get the points.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/75 "2013-03-29T04:14:47Z")

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My Midwest bracket is perfect so far as well, but how long will it last?

ETA: My guess is that my Midwest bracket is pretty safe except for Duke vs. Michigan State of the two remaining games, but I think the Spartans are pretty hot right now. Although, if the Ducks beat Louisville … well … that would be real innerestin’.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/76 "2013-03-29T13:56:01Z")

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^ is weeping along with the Jesus.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/77 "2013-03-29T22:03:11Z")

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Ouch. There goes my #1. Thats it. FGCU over the Cardinals for the WIN! If I can’t win, no one can win!

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/78 "2013-03-30T02:22:18Z")

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Kansas blows a 14-pt lead and loses in overtime. There goes my #1. Pretty hard to beat a team when they got someone draining threes from six feet behind the 3-pt line. Damn you Trey Burke!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/79 "2013-03-30T04:23:23Z")

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And I’m officially done.

A hearty fuck-you to:

Indiana  
Michigan State (My two finalists)  
Arizona (a FF team)

Honestly, the only thing that can salvage my bracket is if Florida loses this weekend. I have them going to the FF, but fuck them too: they’re _Florida_. What the hell was I thinking picking them?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2013-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool/653178/80 "2013-03-30T23:35:34Z")

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Well, it appears that I can’t win any more points. I’m currently sitting at No. 1, but that will go away for good in the next round. It was fun while it lasted.

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