# 2014 College Football General Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 30, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937 "2014-08-30T03:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/402 "2014-10-29T18:22:19Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > **Playoff Selection Comittee** > Jeff Long – SEC > Barry Alvarez – B1G > Michael C. Gould > Pat Haden – Pac-12 > Tom Jernstedt > Oliver Luck – Big 12 > Archie Manning > Tom Osborne > Dan Radakovich – ACC > Condoleezza Rice > Mike Tranghese – The American > Steve Wieberg > Tyrone Willingham Archie Manning had to drop out because of some upcoming or recent surgery. As for fairness, keep in mind that some committee members cannot vote for certain teams: Mike Gould - Air Force Jeff Long - Arkansas Dan Radakovich - Clemson Tom Osborne - Nebraska Pat Haden - USC Condoleezza Rice - Stanford Oliver Luck - West Virginia Barry Alvarez - Wisconsin ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/403 "2014-10-29T18:23:33Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > If Michigan State and Oregon win out and get snubbed by the committee, then the committee is a joke. The first week where 3 of the top 4 are SEC isn’t a good sign for their impartiality. Question: Do you think you are impartial and objective? I am still looking for a good team that Michigan State has actually beat this year. A team that needs a last minute TD to beat McNeese St is not a good team IMO. McNeese State lost to Sam Houston State by 16 points. But I will give McNeese some cred. They beat the University of The Incarnate Word by 20 points. University of The Incarnate Word!! wow. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/404 "2014-10-29T18:35:01Z")
Who played McNeese State? Michigan State beat Nebraska and quite handily most of the way. They will beat Ohio State as well as bowl-bound Maryland and Ohio State. Then Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, or Iowa in the Big Ten title. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/405 "2014-10-29T18:48:56Z")
Nebraska is the only ranked team Mich State and they barely beat McNeese State. BLD…Why is it you don’t seem to answer my questions. 1. Do you think you are objective and impartial? 2. And you claimed in [post #313](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17830240&postcount=313) that B1G is competitive in all four major professional sports. I would like you to cite some evidence that the B1G is competitive in baseball. Any evidence at all will do. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/406 "2014-10-29T18:59:13Z")
1- Of course I’m not impartial. I’m a Big Ten homer pure and true. But that doesn’t keep me from seeing the incredible favoritism shown toward the SEC by the NCAA and the media. 2- Perhaps I should say ‘will be’ strongly competitive in baseball. Last year, Indiana made it to the CWS and we’re proud of them. In recent years, the date of the first competition in baseball was pushed a few weeks later to reduce the unfair edge that southern teams had in getting a month of games in before hosting northern teams waiting for their fields to thaw. The Big Ten will win their share of titles in the 2020s, mark my words. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/407 "2014-10-29T19:15:35Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Perhaps I should say ‘will be’ strongly competitive in baseball. Last year, Indiana made it to the CWS and we’re proud of them. In recent years, the date of the first competition in baseball was pushed a few weeks later to reduce the unfair edge that southern teams had in getting a month of games in before hosting northern teams waiting for their fields to thaw. The Big Ten will win their share of titles in the 2020s, mark my words. Preseason baseball practice (not counting “fall baseball”) can start the Friday after January 22 (January 23 in leap years). That’s still quite an advantage for warm weather schools. Then again, who saw Penn State becoming a “wrestling powerhouse”? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/408 "2014-10-29T19:49:50Z")
Why doesn’t the committeee just do what it obviously WANTS to do, and hand the championship to the winner of the SEC? Or just place the entire SEC in the Top 12. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/409 "2014-10-29T20:08:22Z")
Well, if KSU wins out and gets snubbed THAT will be really hard to explain, but I think they will get in (if they win out, which will be tough to do). ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/410 "2014-10-29T20:19:34Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Why doesn’t the committeee just do what it obviously WANTS to do, and hand the championship to the winner of the SEC? Actually, if you want to get technical, the NCAA does not recognize the College Football Playoff (CFP) championship, as far as I know. Well, it doesn’t “recognize” any team as the FBS national champion, except that only the American Football Coaches Association’s national champion and the national champion of “a national wire-service poll” are allowed to give national championship rings to their players. The BCS had a deal with the AFCA where the AFCA would automatically declare the BCS champion its own champion as well, but I don’t think the CFP does. Not that it matters, as I don’t see how the CFP champion doesn’t end up as the AFCA champion (which is the #1 team in the final coaches’ poll) as well. (Then again, there’s no rule against giving out conference championship rings that just happen to say “National Champions” on them, as Auburn did after the 2004 season - just don’t give out separate rings.) ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/411 "2014-10-29T20:22:19Z")
If nothing else, this list and all the ones to follow are proof that an 8 team playoff is the perfect size. At the end of the season if everyone were to pick the two teams that most deserve to play in the national championship, many would be in the top 4 but all (except for 1 or 2 weirdos) would pick teams in the top 8. What I don’t get is the huge advantage is the “Human Element” So if that is supposed to be the selling point tell me Why wasn’t Colorado considered a 2 1/2 loss team in 1990? Why exactly did Texas pull ahead of Cal on the final poll in 2004 thereby getting into a BCS bowl? Remember Texas didn’t play and Cal beat an ok (7-5) So. Miss in Hattiesburg by 10 that week. Why did Oklahoma State’s 2OT loss to Iowa State in 2011 [right after a tragic plane crash](http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-football-cowboys-reflect-on-fatal-plane-crash-costly-loss-at-iowa-state/article/3720190) immediately eliminate them from championship contention. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/412 "2014-10-29T20:38:01Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Why doesn’t the committeee just do what it obviously WANTS to do, and hand the championship to the winner of the SEC? Because it may want to give the NCAA championship to the loser of the SEC championship game. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/413 "2014-10-30T13:43:57Z")
Look, maybe it’s the fact that my team is the one non-SEC school in the current rankings, but I think everybody is overreacting here (or at least getting fired up WAAAAYYYYY too early). The stated purpose of the early rankings is to set up the best four teams in the country. The rankings are not supposed to carry over from week-to-week, but be considered anew each time. The SEC schools will, perforce, knock each other down to, at most, two schools that are in the discussion by the end of the season. Bitch about it then if you must, but I suspect the final standings will look about 50% different from what they do now. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/414 "2014-10-30T16:37:03Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > What I don’t get is the huge advantage is the “Human Element” So if that is supposed to be the selling point tell me > Why exactly did Texas pull ahead of Cal on the final poll in 2004 thereby getting into a BCS bowl? Remember Texas didn’t play and Cal beat an ok (7-5) So. Miss in Hattiesburg by 10 that week. From somebody who had a 50-yard-line seat (in the Cal student section) for the 1982 five-lateral game vs. Stanford, I am convinced that it wasn’t so much as Texas begging and pleading coaches poll voters to vote Cal down as it was Cal taking a major hit in the computers from playing Southern Mississippi. > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Because it may want to give the NCAA championship to the loser of the SEC championship game. Alarms just went off in Indianapolis. It’s not the NCAA football championship; in fact see [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17856458&postcount=409) for what the NCAA _really_ thinks about it. There’s no “NCAA FBS football championship” any more than there’s an NCAA men’s rowing championship. Not that the NCAA doesn’t want a men’s rowing championship, but the major rowing schools took a look at how the women’s rowing championship is conducted (ten schools send a “first eight”, a “second eight”, and a “four”; the fours race, with 10 to the winner, 9 to second, and so on, then the second eights race for 2x points, then the first eights race for 3x points) and told the NCAA, “Thanks, but we’ll stick to the traditional “every school sends one boat, and whoever crosses the line first is the national champion” system.” In fact, the NCAA calls the FCS champion the “NCAA Division I Football Champion”. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/415 "2014-10-31T00:55:13Z")
Louisville leading FSU 21-0 with two minutes to go in the first half. FSU’s defense looks like they’re part of a Make a Wish deal, and Winston’s last two passes have been picked off. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/416 "2014-10-31T03:31:54Z")
Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/417 "2014-10-31T03:39:07Z")
Go 'Noles! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/418 "2014-10-31T03:58:51Z")
that was a slightly colossal collapse ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/419 "2014-10-31T04:55:57Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > that was a slightly colossal collapse Todd Grantham. Nuff said. The Georgia fans know what I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/420 "2014-10-31T13:22:59Z")
_sigh_ That about sums it up for me. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/421 "2014-11-02T03:08:09Z")
Hey SEC fans! Suck it! You have no chance of being half of the playoffs now! Hahahahaha! 😛 Ya know, I’m usually not a fan of the Florida Gators (in fact, I’m the direct opposite of a fan of the Florida Gators), but today, I’m thinking maybe I’ll make an exception. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937.md?page=22)