# 2014 College Football General Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 30, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937 "2014-08-30T03:58:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/462 "2014-11-07T22:42:54Z")

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> [@Doctor\_Who](#):
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> Wouldn’t that make a great EIGHT-team playoff?

It will undoubtedly happen; probably within 5 years. Be patient. 🙂

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/463 "2014-11-07T22:53:30Z")

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> [@Doctor\_Who](#):
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> Sigh. Those bastards have me right where they want me. All I can think when looking at jsc’s averaged rankings (which I find quite fascinating… good work) is…
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> Wouldn’t that make a great EIGHT-team playoff?

I agree, well done, JSC! It does indeed seem logical, especially since you have 5 conferences vying for 4 spots.

But I can only imagine how hard that would be on the fans. Let’s say you’re a Michigan State fan. The first round will be in the Rose Bowl. So you have to pony up for air, hotel, car, food, and game tickets to Pasadena.

Then next week, you have to again pay for air, hotel, car, food, and game tickets to Dallas. All during the holidays!

Now give that Spartan fan another game during an 8-team playoff.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/464 "2014-11-07T23:00:06Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> I agree, well done, JSC! It does indeed seem logical, especially since you have 5 conferences vying for 4 spots.
> 
> But I can only imagine how hard that would be on the fans. Let’s say you’re a Michigan State fan. The first round will be in the Rose Bowl. So you have to pony up for air, hotel, car, food, and game tickets to Pasadena.
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> Then next week, you have to again pay for air, hotel, car, food, and game tickets to Dallas. All during the holidays!
> 
> Now give that Spartan fan another game during an 8-team playoff.

I totally agree with you. I think the most logical solution is to give the top 4 home field advantage for the first round. That would ensure (a) a crowd and (b) typical college football passion and excitement. That would also motivate teams to try not to just limp into the 8 team field.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/465 "2014-11-07T23:01:56Z")

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Basketball fans seem to manage to do it, for March Madness.

(No idea how, but it happens.)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/466 "2014-11-07T23:07:50Z")

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**jsc1953** , you also forgot Alabama’s win against #23 West Virginia.

1. forgot the Auburn/K-State game
2. forgot the Bama/WVU

No wonder the SEC critics don’t give the SEC any credit for playing non-conference games. They just conveniently forget them when they are doing an analysis. I guess it doesn’t help that three of biggest OOC games are the last game of the season.

WVU has three losses (Bama, OU, TCU) and ranked 23rd.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/467 "2014-11-07T23:10:46Z")

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> [@Doctor\_Who](#):
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> I mean, hell, using the committee’s rankings:
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> 1 Miss State v. 8 Michigan State  
> 3 Auburn v. 6 TCU
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> 4 Oregon v. 5 Alabama  
> 2. FSU v. 7 Kansas State

And man, wouldn’t the skivvies get scrunched when Mississippi State, Auburn, Bama and FSU win those games?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/468 "2014-11-07T23:15:04Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Basketball fans seem to manage to do it, for March Madness.
> 
> (No idea how, but it happens.)

It doesn’t take nearly as many people per school to fill up a sub-regional and regional b-ball site.

Biggest B-Ball arenas have 20-25K seats (divided by either 4 or 8 schools).

Biggest Football stadiums have 70K-80K seats.to fill

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/469 "2014-11-07T23:18:41Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> **jsc1953** , you also forgot Alabama’s win against #23 West Virginia.
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> 1. forgot the Auburn/K-State game
> 2. forgot the Bama/WVU
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> No wonder the SEC critics don’t give the SEC any credit for playing non-conference games. They just conveniently forget them when they are doing an analysis. I guess it doesn’t help that three of biggest OOC games are the last game of the season.
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> WVU has three losses (Bama, OU, TCU) and ranked 23rd.

No, Auburn/K State is in there – it shows as Auburn’s best win and K State’s best loss.

I’ve updated my table to show Bama’s best win as 23 West Virginia instead of unranked A&M, but that doesn’t move the needle on their ranking.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/470 "2014-11-07T23:19:58Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> And man, wouldn’t the skivvies get scrunched when Mississippi State, Auburn, Bama and FSU win those games?

Is FSU an honorary member of the SEC now? 🙂

If there’s an 8 team playoff and 4 teams from the south get out of the 1st round…so be it. Can’t argue with results on the field.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/471 "2014-11-07T23:29:52Z")

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K-State was left off Auburn’s best win in your original post, and so was Bama’s best win.

> [@](#):
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> Can’t argue with results on the field.

The SEC critics have been arguing with results on the field for the last 9 years. 🙂

The only thing about FSU that is not SEC is the conference that they play in. They have the speed and talent of the best SEC teams. 😃

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/472 "2014-11-07T23:31:26Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> K-State was left off Auburn’s best win in your original post, and so was Bama’s best win.
> 
> The SEC critics have been arguing with results on the field for the last 9 years. 🙂
> 
> The only thing about FSU that is not SEC is the conference that they play in. They have the speed and talent of the best SEC teams. 😃

There you go. Proclaim them honorary members of the SEC, and you’ve got 8 straight national championships. 😉

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/473 "2014-11-07T23:55:08Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Basketball fans seem to manage to do it, for March Madness.
> 
> (No idea how, but it happens.)

Basketball tournament sites are more dispersed instead of just in warm weather locations. The committee also tries to put teams in regions closest to them. A lot of the teams that make the long journeys are big schools that underperformed other teams from their major conference (who got the “home” region.)

I’d love an expansion if the extra round involved a series of home games for the top 4 seeds with the lower 4 seeds traveling to them. I’d love to see one of those fancy-schmanzy speed based spread offenses outdoors in the snow and cold. I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from warm climate schools now though. I can hear the chattering of their fans teeth even more.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/474 "2014-11-08T02:07:34Z")

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> [@Doctor\_Who](#):
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> I totally agree with you. I think the most logical solution is to give the top 4 home field advantage for the first round. That would ensure (a) a crowd and (b) typical college football passion and excitement. That would also motivate teams to try not to just limp into the 8 team field.

The problem with this is, the #5 team’s fans would be screaming that they should have been seeded higher than the #4 team and should be hosting the 4 vs 5 game.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/475 "2014-11-08T03:38:50Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> The problem with this is, the #5 team’s fans would be screaming that they should have been seeded higher than the #4 team and should be hosting the 4 vs 5 game.

Oh I agree with that too, but the #5 team’s fans are going to howl a lot louder under this 4 team deal. At least they’ll get a shot, even if they gotta win game one in a hostile environment.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/476 "2014-11-08T22:26:35Z")

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Upset Alert—Notre Dame down 31-3 in the 2nd, and Auburn is struggling with TAM at home.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/477 "2014-11-08T23:25:31Z")

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Auburn’s LT tackled an A&M pass rusher from behind and it wasn’t called. SEC refs trying to protect their playoff team.

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/478 "2014-11-09T00:31:26Z")

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And Auburn just pissed down their leg 😃

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/479 "2014-11-09T00:32:17Z")

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Wow! Auburn shoots themselves in the foot but recovers, only to shoot themselves in the other foot. Wild ending.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/480 "2014-11-09T00:34:29Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Upset Alert—Notre Dame down 31-3 in the 2nd, and Auburn is struggling with TAM at home.

#9 beat #10. Not sure what the spread was.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/481 "2014-11-09T01:29:06Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Wow! Auburn shoots themselves in the foot but recovers, only to shoot themselves in the other foot. Wild ending.

Well, that was unexpected.

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