# 2014 College Football General Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 30, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937 "2014-08-30T03:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/602 "2014-11-21T16:51:02Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > It occurred to me that not everybody would know what I was talking about. > > For those of you who haven’t heard, FSU had a campus shooting last night at the University library building. 3 people were injured (and we’re lucky it wasn’t more) and the shooter was killed by FSU PD. > > While most people responded appropriately, there were, as there always are, others who did not. Those who tried to tie this to the football program. To Jameis Winston. To a culture of athletic worship. These people include a writer for the NY Times and an ESPN “intern”. > > To those people, I say: > > We Are FSU. I saw a snarky comment about knowing FSU football players were not involved because the shootings happened in the library. Sorry that it happened, but that’s America these days. It’s a larger issue, best discussed outside the game room board. Two of my cousin’s kids were at Virginia Tech when that tragedy occurred. One of them was in a neighboring building. I recall an anxious hour, or so, waiting for their safety to be confirmed by their dad. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/603 "2014-11-21T17:00:27Z")
I’d of linked this in my Melvin Gordon post above, but I wasn’t aware of it at the time: [Melvin Gordon vs Nebraska Full Highlights | 408 yards - 2014 [HD] - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMD_iQr9q7s) And another one [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0B4GcJln_gM/maxresdefault.jpg "Melvin Gordon "You Can't Stop Me" 2014 Highlights ᴴᴰ") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4GcJln_gM) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/604 "2014-11-21T22:13:05Z")
I just wanna say… Go Bears! Beat Stanfurd!!! ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/605 "2014-11-22T02:20:24Z")
One more, 'kay? After my post last night, felt like I should share the moments when people rise above the muck: “We send our heartfelt thoughts and prayers to the victims and to the FSU community. We are all FSU.” -UF President Bernie Machen “@FSUAlumni of course. Rivalries mean nothing in moments like these. Stay strong up there. #FSUnited” - @ufalumni “Our thoughts and prayers are with @floridastate today. We can’t wait to see the @FSUChiefs next week.” - @UFGatorBand And from The Independent Florida Alligator (UF’s student paper): > **[Reflecting on a tragedy - The Independent Florida Alligator](https://www.alligator.org/article/2014/11/reflecting-on-a-tragedy)** > > Service of the University of Florida Community since 1901 (And as I write this, 5 of the 6 “headline” articles are supportive of FSU). Go Gators! Love you and hope we NEVER have to return the favor. Finally: “Arizona State University counseling center out of the blue had lunch delivered to some 30 counselors at FSU, knowing they were drained.” Seriously classy move, Sun Devils. FSU United ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/606 "2014-11-22T02:38:21Z")
We all feel for the FSU community. Hope that all the healing takes place and you get past this. There’s a lot more to a college town than football, sometimes we get so worked up over a game that we forget that. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/607 "2014-11-22T14:33:55Z")
This might be the worst week of the season for CFB. I just picked the games in **Oak** ’s pick’m league and there is not game on the list that is MUST SEE for me. The SEC games of the week is Ole Miss vs Arkansas and Mizzou vs Tennessee. Both 2nd tier games IMO. B1G Game of the week appears to be Wisky at Iowa. And it is supposed to be real foggy. Baylor at Okie State? Maybe Rivalry games in California. But no one East of the Rockies gives a damn. Worst weekend of the year! No wonder ESPN GameDay is at HAH-Vahd. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/608 "2014-11-22T20:58:50Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Worst weekend of the year! > > No wonder ESPN GameDay is at HAH-Vahd. So you would think that with no big games, at least one of the major networks would show Oregon or Alabama. But both games are on regional networks this week. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/609 "2014-11-22T23:34:00Z")
Go 'Noles! ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/610 "2014-11-22T23:43:51Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Go 'Noles! Very impressive win. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/611 "2014-11-23T00:09:03Z")
Looks like the Hoke era at Michigan has but one game left. Of course, OSU had all they wanted from Indiana today so you never know if U-M could pull the shocker next week. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/612 "2014-11-23T00:13:41Z")
Still very possible that the SEC gets shut out of the Playoff. UGA wins SEC East and loses to GaTech and then wins the SEC Championship against 'Bama (or Miss State). ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/613 "2014-11-23T00:41:20Z")
A sloppy second half, but go Ducks none the less. Mariota’s last game at Autzen. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/614 "2014-11-23T02:54:36Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Very impressive win. Certainly more impressive than half the teams in CFB did today, wouldn’t you say? Ask the other 26-0 teams how hard it is to go to 27-0. Oh, wait, that’s right, you can’t, there aren’t any. Okay, ask the defending national champs how hard it is to go 11-0 the next season. Oh wait, that’s us too. We are number one until we get beat. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/615 "2014-11-23T03:04:51Z")
Stunning upset in the SEC. Arkansas is a much better football team than their record indicates, but I sure didn’t see a blow out of Ole Miss coming. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/616 "2014-11-23T03:32:57Z")
> [@susan](#): > > A sloppy second half, but go Ducks none the less. Mariota’s last game at Autzen. Also, Samaje Perine of Oklahoma helped Mariota in the Heisman race by shattering Gordon’s single-game rushing record just a week after he set it. And Perine is a true freshman, which proves it ain’t that hard 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/617 "2014-11-23T04:52:24Z")
Amazing sequence in the Cal - Stanford game today. Late in the 3rd quarter, Stanford up 24-7 but the Bears are driving. 1st down on the Stanford 15 yard line. The Cal QB on a keeper takes it into the end zone. Refs signal TD. But hold on…review (1). After further review, the QB knee touched on the one – 1st & goal Cal. Next play, QB keeper into the end zone. Refs signal TD. But hold on… review (2). After review, the QB’s knee touched before he broke the plane. And oh yeah, there was a personal foul on Cal after the play. 2nd & goal from the 16. Pass into the end zone. Cal receiver comes down with it. Ref signals TD. But hold on…review (3). After review, the receiver did not maintain control. (I haven’t seen the video, but apparently this call was egregiously horrible). As you can imagine, the fans are foaming at the mouth by now. The Bears wind up kicking a field goal. On the ensuing kickoff the Bears try an onside kick, and recover. But hold on…Stanford throws the flag and calls for a review (4). Thank God, the call is upheld, or otherwise there might have been blood. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/618 "2014-11-23T17:06:18Z")
I’m a WA fan, no dog in this fight, I just watched videos of the three plays and would say the following: 1 - First call with knee down This one looks correct, but I will concede that the angle I saw would be a tough angle to use to overturn a call on the field. If the refs had a side angle then you could be certain. 2 - Second one with knee down This call was absolutely the correct call. Pretty obvious. 3 - The catch that was overturned This is what I saw: a - Player catches ball in air and maintains that grip on the ball through next few steps b - Left foot lands inbounds c - As he comes down the football crosses the plane inbounds d - Right foot has landed by this time e - Right arm hits inside of pylon f - Right hand and ball hit ground and ball pops out I don’t know enough about the official college rules to know if that’s a catch or not. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/619 "2014-11-23T17:19:28Z")
I just checked the college rules on pass catch to be sure and the pass was most definitely incomplete, no TD, no question about it. "b.If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. This is also required for a player attempting to make a catch at the sideline and going to the ground out of bounds. If he loses control of the ball which then touches the ground before he regains control, it is not a catch. If he regains control inbounds prior to the ball touching the ground it is a catch. c. If the player loses control of the ball while simultaneously touching the ground with any part of his body, or if there is doubt that the acts were simultaneous, it is not a catch. If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball will not be considered loss of possession; he must lose control of the ball in order for there to be a loss of possession." ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/620 "2014-11-23T17:54:35Z")
I don’t think I can stomach watching the video. 🙂 What I’m reading online seems to be saying that the catch may have been the worst. But be that as it may, it sounds like the officials were merely incompetent, not corrupt. There were a total of 5 calls in the game overturned by video replay. That has to be close to a record. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/621 "2014-11-23T18:22:27Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I don’t think I can stomach watching the video. 🙂 What I’m reading online seems to be saying that the catch may have been the worst. But be that as it may, it sounds like the officials were merely incompetent, not corrupt. I’m confused, by rule it was an incomplete pass, there really is no question. We know 2 things: 1 - The ball popped out when ball/hand hit the ground 2 - The rules state that the ball can’t pop out - and if there are doubts about whether it popped out simultaneously or not - it’s not a catch Are you thinking it was a catch? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937.md?page=32)