# 2014 College Football General Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 30, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937 "2014-08-30T03:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/682 "2014-11-30T17:03:57Z")
Bo Pelini’s gone, not a Nebraska fan, but my thoughts anyway: Bo and Nebraska seemed to be stuck in “pretty good” land. Winning 9 games but losing enough key games that it seemed he wasn’t going to get them over the hump to a conf champ. It’s probably the right move, but like most places, they could go through 3 or 4 more coaches before they get to a conf champ. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/683 "2014-11-30T17:10:53Z")
If Cal hired a coach who took them to 9-3 they’d build a statue of him. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/684 "2014-11-30T17:34:03Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > If Cal hired a coach who took them to 9-3 they’d build a statue of him. I never understood what happened with Tedford. He had Cal pretty competitive initially, why did they go south after a while? Normally a good coach continues to be competitive. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/685 "2014-11-30T17:53:12Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > I never understood what happened with Tedford. He had Cal pretty competitive initially, why did they go south after a while? Normally a good coach continues to be competitive. As you can imagine, there have been peta-bytes of analysis on this subject. The consensus nutshell: after peaking early in the 2007 season, but failing to get over the hump, Tedford couldn’t stop tweaking his offense. He’d had success with great O lines and power running games, but he started fiddling with spread and wildcat formations, and had a revolving door of OC’s. And then he started dropping admissions standards, desperately looking for talent. He wound up with bad teams getting bad grades, and it was time to go. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/686 "2014-11-30T18:42:30Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > But you see…if you expect bad things, then when they happen they’re not really bad. > > The SEC will start trying to claim that the SEC East isn’t _really_ SEC. They’re like the distant cousins who show up at the wedding and embarass you. > > 😉 No True SEC team would lose to the ACC, hence the SEC East teams are not really SEC teams. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/687 "2014-11-30T22:40:30Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > No True SEC team would lose to the ACC, hence the SEC East teams are not really SEC teams. Aye, laddie. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/688 "2014-11-30T23:20:56Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > No True SEC team would lose to the ACC, hence the SEC East teams are not really SEC teams. Of course, neither is Auburn. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/689 "2014-12-01T01:37:08Z")
In case you missed it, Marshall lost yesterday, to Western Kentucky. The score was 67-66, in Overtime. It was 59-59 after regulation. WKU’s QB had 491 yds passing Marshall’s QB had 417 291 yds rushing for Marshall 222 yds for WKU 6 interceptions. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/690 "2014-12-01T03:16:21Z")
And we’re down to 6 six teams with one loss (or less) to compete for 4 playoff slots. I like the idea of committee chaos meaning they have to look to the two loss teams…with the associated wailing and gnashing of teeth on the internet among sports fans. I assume Florida State’s body of work means anything other than a win or a flukey loss in the ACC championship throws them dead last in the committees eyes among the one loss teams and potentially opens the door to a two loss team over them with one loss. So we’re three losses among the front runners from committee chaos. The three I see most likely to provide that: Ohio State - They didn’t just lose a Heisman candidate quarterback, they lost their second string Heisman candidate QB. Their defense isn’t dominant enough to revert to Tressel ball against Wisconsin without a lot of risk. Florida State - They continued their unimpressive but winning ways. They face arguably one of their toughest, if not the toughest, game they’ve faced all year. Baylor - After a lackluster game against middle of the road competition they have a tough Kansas State team on deck. Can I get a big foam #1 finger that has Chaos and Mayhem written on it made for next weekend? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/691 "2014-12-01T04:05:23Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The Bears win on the strength of a failed 2-pter. Against the Red Raiders? That is some weak sauce. > [@DinoR](#): > > Baylor - After a lackluster game against middle of the road competition they have a tough Kansas State team on deck. Hopefully the fact they are playing in Waco will help the Bears. Anything short of a _very_ convincing victory will be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/692 "2014-12-01T05:37:38Z")
The Iron Bowl was pretty entertaining. Watched it on DirectTV at 38,000 feet. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/693 "2014-12-01T06:56:12Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Hopefully the fact they are playing in Waco will help the Bears. Anything short of a _very_ convincing victory will be a problem. Well two other losses by the top 6 playoff contenders means a victory is likely enough. If none lose I’d agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/694 "2014-12-01T16:37:05Z")
Here’s my current top 6: 1. Oregon 2. Alabama 3. FSU 4. TCU 5. Baylor 6. Ohio State If Baylor wins out, I would jump them over TCU, as then it would come down to the head-to-head. Ohio State has only one top 25 win, MSU. If they beat Wisconsin then it will be two, as I believe Minnesota, will fall out this week. TCU currently has 2 top 25 wins, OU, KSU, with no chance to get another one. Baylor has 2 top 25 wins, with a possibility for 3 if they beat KSU. If FSU loses to GT, then I put Baylor at 3 (assuming they beat KSU) and then put Ohio State at 4 (assuming they beat Wisconsin. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/695 "2014-12-01T16:38:11Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Just read that, in fact, the new regime guarantees one spot in the six major bowls for a non-PC team, specifically the highest ranked conference champion among them; and they have now ranked Boise State ahead of Marshall. That is correct - and, they have added a clarification: if there are no non-ACC/SEC/Big 12/Big 10/Pac-10 conference champions in the top 25, the committee will choose one to get the automatic bowl bid anyway. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/696 "2014-12-01T17:02:19Z")
Updated Best Win / Worst Loss rankings! Best Win (0, 1- or 2-loss teams) 1. Arizona (#3 Oregon) 2t. Oregon (#7 Michigan State) 2t. Ohio State (#7 Michigan State) 2. TCU (#9 K State) 3. Alabama (#10 Miss State) 4. Georgia Tech (#15 Georgia) 5. Baylor (#18 Oklahoma) 6. Florida State (#19 Clemson) 7. Mississippi State (#20 Auburn) 10t. Michigan State (#25 Nebraska) 10t. Wisconsin (#25 Nebraska) 8. Missouri (UR South Carolina) Worst Loss (0, 1- or 2-loss teams) 1. Florida State (none) 2. Miss St (#1 Alabama) 3. TCU (#5 Baylor) 4. Michigan State (#6 Ohio State) 5. Oregon (#8 Arizona) 6. Alabama (#13 Ole Miss) 7t. Baylor (UR West Virginia) 7t. Arizona (UR USC) 9t. Ohio State (UR Virginia Tech) 9t. Wisconsin (UR Northwestern) 9t. Georgia Tech (UR North Carolina) 9t. Missouri (UR Indiana) Averaging the 2 rankings and dropping the 2-loss teams (for now…) 1t. Oregon (3.5) 1t. TCU (3.5) 3 Florida State (4) 4t. Ohio State (5.5) 4t. Alabama (5.5) 6. Baylor (7) ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/697 "2014-12-01T17:04:48Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Updated Best Win / Worst Loss rankings! > > Best Win (0, 1- or 2-loss teams) > > 1. Baylor (#18 Oklahoma) You seem to forget their win over #4 TCU. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/698 "2014-12-01T17:18:02Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > You seem to forget their win over #4 TCU. Crap. Traditional weekly screw-up. This changes everything: Best Win: 1. Arizona (#3 Oregon) 2. Baylor (#4 TCU) 3t. Oregon (#7 Michigan State) 3t. Ohio State (#7 Michigan State) 3. TCU (#9 K State) 4. Alabama (#10 Miss State) 5. Georgia Tech (#15 Georgia) 6. Florida State (#19 Clemson) Merged rankings: 1t. Oregon (4) 1t. TCU (4) 1t. Florida State (4) 4. Baylor (4.5) 5. Alabama (6) 6. Ohio State (6.5) ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/699 "2014-12-01T19:11:11Z")
Why does FSU continue to get disrespected? They played a 8 game ACC schedule plus games against Florida and Notre Dame (Teams that have contended and played for National Championships in the last ten years). ACC is considered the red-headed step child of the Power Five conferences, and one of the reasons for that is there less than stellar record against the SEC, where they meet more frequently than any other conference rivalry. The ACC just got the better of the SEC this past weekend, which should have given the ACC some much needed CRED!! I hope my alma mater beats FSU this weekend, but if FSU should go on to win, they should be #1 seed in the Playoffs. Bama and Oregon should be the #2 #3 seeds and either Baylor or TCU be the 4th seed. No way OSU should be in the Playoff. IMO, unless I missed something, the B1G biggest win of the year OoC, was Indiana beating Missouri. Who else did they beat OOC? Other Power 5 OoC wins were Miami, Syracuse, Washington State, Notre Dame and Pitt. and Losses against West Virginia, Oregon, Va Tech, Notre Dame (twice), California and OSU lost to Va Tech…in Columbus. A hypothetical one loss FSU (this week in ACC Championship) is better than a one loss tOSU. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/700 "2014-12-01T19:48:56Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Why does FSU continue to get disrespected? Because they haven’t beaten a single team that is currently in the top 25. If they beat GT, then they will have beaten 1 top 25 team. That along with being undefeated should get them in the playoff, which is all FSU should care about. They then have to prove themselves by winning two more games. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/701 "2014-12-01T20:56:31Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Because they haven’t beaten a single team that is currently in the top 25. If they beat GT, then they will have beaten 1 top 25 team. Excuse me…Can you tell me where Clemson is ranked? For the record, Clemson is 9-3 (and ranked 19th in AP), there only three losses are against UGA, GaTech, and FSU…and total of 5 losses between those three teams. IMO, the best 3 loss team in the nation, with two SEC teams on their OoC schedule. The ACC is the Rodney Dangerfield of Power 5 conferences. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937.md?page=36)