# 2014 College Football General Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 30, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937 "2014-08-30T03:58:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/82 "2014-09-08T20:33:28Z")

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UNDEFEATED!!! For two weeks in a row. Make that three, because we have never lost to next week’s opponent, BYE.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/83 "2014-09-08T20:38:41Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I’d love to hear what was behind this, because this is just bizarre. There’s no history between these 2 schools, right? It’s just a paycheck: show up, get a good workout, get your butt kicked, collect the money and go home. Why would the Citadel get nasty? Weird.

You are correct that there is no history between FSU and The Citadel, but in light of the past and the culture at The Citadel, I’m not terribly surprised that the players would think that introducing gratuitous violence into a football game would be a good idea.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/84 "2014-09-08T20:48:07Z")

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> UNDEFEATED!!! For two weeks in a row. Make that three, because we have never lost to next week’s opponent, BYE.

An extra week to bask in this unfamiliar but pleasant feeling. I think we\* may actually win 4 or 5 games this year!

\*Cal

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/85 "2014-09-08T21:00:04Z")

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My Gamecocks finally started putting something together last week vs a pretty decent ECU team. I’m actually encouraged that our upcoming loss to UGA at home will merely be unpleasant instead of embarrassing. I’m going to be at the game, so look for me in the nosebleed section from the overhead blimp shots. I’ll be the guy wearing garnet.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/86 "2014-09-08T21:16:17Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> My Gamecocks finally started putting something together last week vs a pretty decent ECU team. I’m actually encouraged that our upcoming loss to UGA at home will merely be unpleasant instead of embarrassing. I’m going to be at the game, so look for me in the nosebleed section from the overhead blimp shots. I’ll be the guy wearing garnet.

I’ll be pulling for you, Bubba! My suspicion is that Steve’s going to be pulling out his trusty can of Whip-Ass for the boys to get a good snort of. Is there a hotter rivalry (outside the Iron Bowl) than UGA-USCe?

I’m going against the chalk on that game and the Tennessee game this week. All braced to lose some Confidence Points based on my gut! 😃

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/87 "2014-09-09T18:23:13Z")

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Is there a rivalry _literally_ hotter? Not if the game is being played in that stadium SC built on the face of the sun. If you mean figuratively, it isn’t even in the Top 4 UGA rivalry games, even though the last few years have moved it up the charts some.

As a Georgia fan, I’ve been worried about this game for a long time. Still am.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/88 "2014-09-09T21:06:23Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Is there a rivalry _literally_ hotter? Not if the game is being played in that stadium SC built on the face of the sun. If you mean figuratively, it isn’t even in the Top 4 UGA rivalry games, even though the last few years have moved it up the charts some.
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> As a Georgia fan, I’ve been worried about this game for a long time. Still am.

Yeah, I don’t think we come anywhere close to GaTech, UF or Auburn and it’ll be awhile yet before we’re even with UT or Bama in terms of teams that get UGA VII slobberin’ good (damn y’all got a lot teams to hate!).

And sorry we didn’t have a nice gully to park our stadium in but at least the field runs north-south.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/89 "2014-09-09T21:12:20Z")

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As this thread gets longer and longer thru the season, I request we make obvious in most posts which team(s) we are praising/bashing/discussing. I lose track of who is rooting for/against what team(s).

I found out years ago that a lot of the country thinks of Ohio State when someone mentions OSU. Even if that someone is in a Big12 area like Oklahoma. 😉

Sorry, Oregon State fans. No one thinks of you guys! 😛

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/90 "2014-09-09T21:40:20Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> I’ll be pulling for you, Bubba! My suspicion is that Steve’s going to be pulling out his trusty can of Whip-Ass for the boys to get a good snort of. Is there a hotter rivalry (outside the Iron Bowl) than UGA-USCe?

I know SEC fans are a little insular and don’t care much about what happens outside of the South, but I’m sure you’ve heard of Ohio State-Michigan? Texas-Oklahoma? USC-UCLA? Notre Dame vs. about half of their schedule? Hell, Colorado-Nebraska was a blood feud until they went their separate ways.

I doubt Georgia- South Carolina would make the top 20 in a national poll. And BTW, USC is in California. It’s South Carolina.

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**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/91 "2014-09-09T21:41:25Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> My Cornhuskers won! That’s all that matters.
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> We’re doing better than Michigan, Michigan State, and Ohio State this past weekend.
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> Thank the AD for scheduling McNeese State instead of Notre Dame, Oregon, and Virginia Tech. Besides, RB Abdullah had an awesome play which totally offsets the fact we nearly had the biggest upset in NU history.
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> This was a wake-up call, nothing more. Pelini is a great coach, stop persecuting him like the pansies in the media. He found a way to win.
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> [/sarcasm]
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> So will our 7th-straight 4-loss season occur before or after the bowl? ☹

Neither. 1 or two losses, tops. Maybe fewer. Pelini is becoming a great coach, like Osborne did. Great coaches aren’t born, they’re made so.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/92 "2014-09-09T23:29:17Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> I know SEC fans are a little insular and don’t care much about what happens outside of the South, but I’m sure you’ve heard of Ohio State-Michigan? Texas-Oklahoma? USC-UCLA? Notre Dame vs. about half of their schedule? Hell, Colorado-Nebraska was a blood feud until they went their separate ways.
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> I doubt Georgia- South Carolina would make the top 20 in a national poll. And BTW, USC is in California. It’s South Carolina.

I think he’s saying hotter in the “currently competitive” sense.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/93 "2014-09-09T23:43:16Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> I think he’s saying hotter in the “currently competitive” sense.

😃

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/94 "2014-09-10T00:05:52Z")

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Steve Spurrier used to be the QB coach at Ga Tech and he developed a good old fashioned HATE for Georgia while he was at Tech.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/95 "2014-09-10T00:07:31Z")

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> [@AncientHumanoid](#):
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> I found out years ago that a lot of the country thinks of Ohio State when someone mentions OSU. Even if that someone is in a Big12 area like Oklahoma. 😉
> 
> Sorry, Oregon State fans. No one thinks of you guys! 😛

Apparently there are fans that do not think of Mississippi State when someone mentions MSU. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/96 "2014-09-10T00:43:43Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> I think he’s saying hotter in the “currently competitive” sense.

Understood. I was focused on the word “rivalry.” A couple of good games does not a rivalry make.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/97 "2014-09-10T01:54:22Z")

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So how do people think this playoff system is going to work out? My suspicion is that only champions of power conferences (or Notre Dame if they go undefeated) need apply.

Since the committee AFAIK contains representatives of all the conferences, I don’t see them ever admitting two teams from the same conference. Whatever they do will be hysterically criticized by the teams left out, so I think they will be strongly tempted to play it safe and pick only teams that have a conference championship credential to separate them from the pack. (and I believe that is explicitly listed as a criteria they will use). The only exception might be in a weird year where more than one of the power conferences have major upsets in their championship games and end up with a champion with a record of 8-4 or something.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/98 "2014-09-10T03:38:25Z")

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A scenario similar to the one that produced the Alabama-LSU rematch could see two teams from the same conference in the playoff, but otherwise, I agree it is probably going to be champs from the power conferences, with the SEC Champion having a lock on one of the spots almost every year, and the other three up for grabs.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/99 "2014-09-10T03:44:37Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Since the committee AFAIK contains representatives of all the conferences, I don’t see them ever admitting two teams from the same conference.

Each conference is represented by 1 AD along with 8 other “independent” people. Funny though that the SEC got one (Archie Manning) and the PAC got TWO (Condi Rice - current Stanford employee and Tyrone Willingham who coached at both Stanford and Washington). So those two conferences have a stake in 5 of 13 votes. But don’t worry, we can trust these people (with ties to a particular conference) to be truly impartial and fair.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/100 "2014-09-10T06:20:18Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Each conference is represented by 1 AD along with 8 other “independent” people. Funny though that the SEC got one (Archie Manning) and the PAC got TWO (Condi Rice - current Stanford employee and Tyrone Willingham who coached at both Stanford and Washington). So those two conferences have a stake in 5 of 13 votes. But don’t worry, we can trust these people (with ties to a particular conference) to be truly impartial and fair.

Aren’t they required to recuse themselves from participating when considering teams from “their” league? Or at least “their” school?

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/101 "2014-09-10T11:26:59Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Aren’t they required to recuse themselves from participating when considering teams from “their” league? Or at least “their” school?

From Wikipedia:  
“Committee members who are currently employed or financially compensated by a school, or have family members who have a current financial relationship (which includes football players), are not allowed to vote for that school.”

Conference and previous school affiliations (including alma mater and prior employers) are not considered to be grounds for recusal.

Oh and I found this cute:  
“Advanced statistics and metrics from ESPN are expected to be submitted to the committee, though like other analytics, they will have no formal role in the decision.”

Yeah…right, like Daddy Bigbucks is going to let those guys prove his shiny new power index wrong…

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