# 2014 College Football General Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 30, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937 "2014-08-30T03:58:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/142 "2014-09-19T16:00:06Z")

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> [@wedgehed](#):
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> I’m watching the Auburn-Kansas State game & it looks like the American flag is at half-staff.
> 
> Any idea why?

In honor of former Kansas Governor John Anderson’s death.

[QUOTE=Found on the Internet]  
Flags have been ordered to half staff from sunrise Thursday Sept. 18 through sunset Friday, Sept. 19 in honor of the late former Governor John Anderson.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/143 "2014-09-19T16:15:42Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> In honor of former Kansas Governor John Anderson’s death.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/144 "2014-09-19T17:37:57Z")

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> [@wedgehed](#):
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> Thanks!

+1. I hadn’t heard either.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/145 "2014-09-19T18:08:03Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> **jsc1953** , I agree completely. And as I posted in the other thread, I really hope this wakes him up. Jimbo Fisher is NOT a guy you want to mess with and if Sean Macguire has a stellar first half against Clemson, Jameis will find himself on a VERY short leash (obviously he’s most of the way there already). I seriously never thought that FSU’s Heisman winner would make Johnny Football look tame in comparison. What a stupid stupid boy.

Boy?

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/146 "2014-09-20T02:13:31Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Boy?

Oh good grief. Child? Does that work better for you? The word was a reference to the fact that he is 20 years old and I’m much older than that.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/147 "2014-09-20T02:23:36Z")

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And you know what? I was born in the South, I grew up in the South, and I live in the South. I have relatives and acquaintances who are racist and that’s not at all how it’s used in a racist context.

“That boy has a problem.” - not racist  
“Hey boy, come here.” - racist

It was a term used to denigrate grown men by applying it to them based on the color of their skin. Male children (of all races) are referred to as “boy” on a regular basis without any racial overtones.

“Hey Bill, how’s your boy?” “Doin’ great! Looks like he made the all-star team!”

“Hey Steve, you seen that boy of mine?” “Not lately, but I saw him and my boy headed out to the barn a while back.”

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/148 "2014-09-20T04:33:52Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> There was rumor going around yesterday (Deadspin) that Jameis Winston was spotted on campus, standing up and yelling “F\*\*\* her right in the pussy.”
> 
> It was treated with a grain of salt, as no video had been posted.
> 
> But apparently it was true, and JW has been suspended for the 1st half vs Clemson.
> 
> What an idiot.

Suspension has been increased to whole game:

> **[Florida State suspends Jameis Winston for entire Clemson game](https://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-jameis-winston-suspension-20140919-story.html)**
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> Florida State dropped a mini-bombshell Friday night when the school announced it was increasing the suspension of quarterback Jameis Winston from the first half to the full game against Clemson on Saturday.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/149 "2014-09-20T15:01:18Z")

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I can picture this scenario:

Friend: Hey Jameis, I dare you to stand on a table and yell “fuck her right in the pussy”  
Jameis: Are you crazy?  
Friend: I double-dog-dare you.  
Jameis: Oh, it’s on.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/150 "2014-09-20T15:33:31Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I can picture this scenario:
> 
> Friend: Hey Jameis, I dare you to stand on a table and yell “fuck her right in the pussy”  
> Jameis: Are you crazy?  
> Friend: I double-dog-dare you.  
> Jameis: Oh, it’s on.

I bet it went more like:  
Sneaky clempson fan: Hey Jameis, I dare you to stand on a table and yell “fuck her right in the pussy”  
Jameis: Are you crazy?  
Sneaky clempson fan: I double-dog-dare you.  
Jameis: Oh, it’s on.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/151 "2014-09-20T16:00:55Z")

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Story I’m hearing is that Jameis was the fourth or fifth guy to stand up and yell it. It’s also an area of the Student Union known for that kind of crap.

Not that ANY of the above excuses JaboDipShit. He really should know better.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/152 "2014-09-20T16:55:43Z")

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I am now curious as to what the future holds for Winston. No doubt he has talent as a football player, but he really seems to be lacking in something. He always seems to say the right things, after the fact mind you, but he isn’t learning from his mistakes.

First it was being accused of sexual assault. Then it was the shoplifting thing and now this. There may be more things I have forgotten. Given the current way the winds are blowing in the NFL, is any team going spend a first round pick on this clown?

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/153 "2014-09-20T18:38:43Z")

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Over-under in the Oregon-WSU game tonight is 80 points.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/154 "2014-09-20T19:52:23Z")

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66-14? Sounds about right.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/155 "2014-09-20T19:53:38Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Over-under in the Oregon-WSU game tonight is 80 points.

They expecting 42-38 or more like 70-10?

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/156 "2014-09-20T21:20:36Z")

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I don’t know what “they” expect, but I expect something like 65-45.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/157 "2014-09-20T21:44:30Z")

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“They” would be the oddsmakers, of course.

I didn’t know WSU had that potent a scoring O. Or is Oregon’s D suspect? (I haven’t been into much of that coast yet this year, I usually pay more attention closer to end of season)

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/158 "2014-09-20T22:12:09Z")

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I haven’t followed them closely this year, but WSU typically scores a lot of points, and gives up even more, when playing Oregon. IIRC they set some school records for offense in their loss to Oregon last year. But judging from the MSU game, Oregon’s D is better this year, so maybe they’ll hold them to 30 or so.

ETA: I do realize that Oregon is better than the final scores show, because they usually pull their starters early in the 3rd quarter.

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**Author:** ![deanc2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/53a042/32.png) [@deanc2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deanc2000)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/159 "2014-09-21T00:06:26Z")

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Winston dressed out for the game. What was he thinking?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/160 "2014-09-21T01:51:44Z")

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Wow, tied at the half, go Mountaineers. (I picked them to take the belt from the Sooners).

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/161 "2014-09-21T03:45:42Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I haven’t followed them closely this year, but WSU typically scores a lot of points, and gives up even more, when playing Oregon. IIRC they set some school records for offense in their loss to Oregon last year. But judging from the MSU game, Oregon’s D is better this year, so maybe they’ll hold them to 30 or so.
> 
> ETA: I do realize that Oregon is better than the final scores show, because they usually pull their starters early in the 3rd quarter.

Thanks for the info.  
I see OU had two guys pretty much do all the work for them. 100 yd return TD for one guy and 200+ yds rushing with 4 TDs for another. Unless the beer is reading the TV screen wrong. WV almost had it a couple of times.

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