# 2014 College Football General Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 30, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937 "2014-08-30T03:58:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/162 "2014-09-21T04:11:02Z")

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Lots of SEC stories today, but none bigger than Miss State pulling off the upset in Death Valley. State was up 34-16 late in the 4th before giving up two TDs in about 30 seconds, then giving LSU the ball with 27 seconds and a chance to win the game. It took an interception in the endzone as time expired to seal the deal. What a game.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/163 "2014-09-21T05:06:08Z")

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It’s fun to have a decent team every once in a while, isn’t it **Oakminster**?

To paraphrase the HBC, we aren’t very good, we are embarrassing at times, but we keep winning.

Our win against ECU is looking better and better, kinda like when we beat UCF last season.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/164 "2014-09-21T05:16:39Z")

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Is this FantasyLand?

**Washington State** is down by _only 4_ in the 4th against **Oregon**! :eek:

And I’m gonna call Miss St. Viagra, cause they gave me wood tonight! Fuck LSU!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/165 "2014-09-21T05:33:27Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> **Washington State** is down by _only 4_ in the 4th against **Oregon**! :eek:

Tied! 8 minutes left! What a World!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/166 "2014-09-21T05:36:54Z")

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Wazzu has tied it. Methinks the Ducks will not be covering the -21.5, and that over bet on 79 looks like a mistake. (For whomever placed such a bet.)

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/167 "2014-09-21T06:04:59Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> It’s fun to have a decent team every once in a while, isn’t it **Oakminster**?

Yes indeed. Open date next week, so we get to savor this one for a bit, then it’s Texas A&M and Auburn at home. I expect State will crack the Top 25 this week…  
🙂

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/168 "2014-09-21T12:27:14Z")

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How many Wolverine fans returned to the BIG HOUSE after the Lightning Delay in the 4th quarter?

Whats the over/under on how many more games Brady Hoke has left?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/169 "2014-09-21T15:19:29Z")

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Cal @ Arizona.

The good news: the Bears are much much better than last year’s 1-11 team. They seemed to be well on their way to a 3-0 start and being the Feel-Good Comeback Story of the year, leading the Wildcats 28-6 at halftime.

But the defensive wheels fell off in the 4th quarter. Arizona scored 36 (!!) points in the 4th, including 3 TDs in the last 4 minutes, including a Hail Mary with time expiring, to beat the Bears 49-45.

Crap.

crapcrapcrapcrapcrap.

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/170 "2014-09-21T17:02:19Z")

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Well, after all, the U of A fight song is [_ **Bear Down** _](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LoZwNxR9kw), _Arizona_ 🙂

my observation, as a U of A alumni, is the football team wins games that they should lose, and loses games they should win

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/171 "2014-09-21T18:32:05Z")

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> [@dba\_Fred](#):
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> Well, after all, the U of A fight song is [_ **Bear Down** _](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LoZwNxR9kw), _Arizona_ 🙂
> 
> my observation, as a U of A alumni, is the football team wins games that they should lose, and loses games they should win

According to the oddsmakers, this is a game you should’ve won. (-9)  
According to the halftime score, this is a game you should’ve lost.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/172 "2014-09-24T00:57:29Z")

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Ducks kept me up way too late last Saturday…I turned on the TV just before bed to see if we were winning by 30 or 50 points, and OMG we were tied! With the same Washington State team that lost to Nevada. Kind of surprised we didn’t drop some spots in the polls after that close call. Hopefully it will be a wake-up call (and hopefully\*\* dba Fred’s\*\* law won’t apply in the next game).

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/173 "2014-09-24T02:52:33Z")

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My Nebraska Cornhuskers finally got payback for all those times Miami (Fla) beat us in the 80s and 90s in the Orange Bowl. Now we know what would’ve happened if they played in Lincoln, away from their friendly confines of a “neutral” bowl game.

I was very impressed with Ameer Abdullah. It was the first time I saw him in action this year. You know how some RBs get 1 or 2 yards most of the time and then break an occasional big one to up their average. Abdullah seemed to always get 5-6 yards a run. Seeing NU grind it out brought me back to our old Power-I days.

I think we’ll do very well this season, and I am excited to begin the Big Ten season. If I had any reservations, I have some worries about our defense and over-reliance on Abdullah. If he goes down, it’s game over, so I hope we don’t overuse him. And while I don’t expect Bo Pelini to beat MSU and Wisconsin on the road, I do think we’ll break out of our 9-4 annual record.

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/174 "2014-09-24T16:08:27Z")

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I wouldn’t call it a law, **Thing Fish** , more like a generally accepted accounting principal from the 30+ years I’ve been casually paying attention to them. U of A football games don’t surprise or disappoint me when they disappoint or surprise me.  
The 2 games a year that matter to me, for about a week, are U of A/ASU (bedevil the Devils!) and Army/Navy (Go Navy, beat Army!).

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/175 "2014-09-24T17:10:57Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> My Nebraska Cornhuskers finally got payback for all those times Miami (Fla) beat us in the 80s and 90s in the Orange Bowl. Now we know what would’ve happened if they played in Lincoln, away from their friendly confines of a “neutral” bowl game.

Do you think the Miami team of current vintage compares to the Miami teams of the 1990’s?

See post 127

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/176 "2014-09-24T19:55:49Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> My Nebraska Cornhuskers finally got payback for all those times Miami (Fla) beat us in the 80s and 90s in the Orange Bowl. Now we know what would’ve happened if they played in Lincoln, away from their friendly confines of a “neutral” bowl game.

I don’t think you can really extrapolate theoretical results from 20-30 years ago based on games played today. If that were the case, McNeese State would have been the 2nd or 3rd best team in 1984.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/177 "2014-09-24T23:24:51Z")

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Nebraska has hosted Miami 3 times versus 1 time for Miami in the regular season. and Miami beat Nebraska in the 2002 Rose Bowl (pro geography bias for Miami?).

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Looking back through FSU historical opponents, I see that they have 4 games against Nebraska, in Lincoln, winning two of them in the 1980’s.

Checking FSU vs Nebraska

And there has been no FSU/Nebraska games in Tallahassee.

FSU also beat Nebraska in two Fiesta Bowl games in 1988 and 1990 (that’s probably pro geography bias for FSU)

and FSU beat Nebraska in two Orange Bowl games in the 1990’s. (Incidentally, it is about an 8 hour drive from Tallahassee to Miami.)

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/178 "2014-09-25T20:35:16Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Do you think the Miami team of current vintage compares to the Miami teams of the 1990’s?
> 
> See post 127

Okay, maybe there was _a little bit_ of hyperbole. On the other hand, these Huskers are also nowhere close to their 90s level, so it evens out. 😛

I just got bent in the 80s/90s when we’d always get schooled by Florida teams in Florida bowl games. So that was our excuse: let’s see that fancy passing in a Lincoln winter. Truth be told, it was those Florida teams that taught us that speed \> corn-fed farmboys.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/179 "2014-09-28T01:36:56Z")

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No Duck game this week. I will just take this opportunity to point out that Marcus Mariota has 13 TD passes and no interceptions thus far.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/180 "2014-09-28T02:50:39Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> No Duck game this week. I will just take this opportunity to point out that Marcus Mariota has 13 TD passes and no interceptions thus far.

I understand that it’s how the game is played, but I do wince every time a giant heap of men lands on a QB.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-college-football-general-thread/696937/181 "2014-09-28T19:18:43Z")

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I spent my afternoon in Berkeley, at the defense-optional 59-56 2OT Bears over Buffaloes game. (Both QBs had 7 TDs – a first in FBS history).

The Bears offense is damn good. The defense has a lot of catching up to do; and until they do, it’s going to be entertaining, if not always rewarding. But so much more fun than last year.

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