# 2014 NFL Draft **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 4, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634 "2014-05-04T13:58:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/281 "2014-05-09T03:27:37Z")
Since Cleveland is getting all jiggy with the trades, perhaps they’d be interested in Jason Campbell for their second rounder. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/282 "2014-05-09T03:27:42Z")
If Blake Bortles has the third best NFL career in this draft, I will eat Senor Beef’s stompin’ boots. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/283 "2014-05-09T03:28:03Z")
Fucking Pats. Easley may never be a superstar but he is going to start for 10 years. ETA: third best QB career or third best career overall? ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/284 "2014-05-09T03:29:04Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I don’t hate Manziel like I hated Weeden. He may turn into something good, I really don’t know. It’ll be an exciting ride until he breaks his leg in 4 places before the bye week. I saw him play in person last year against Mizzou. Was not impressed at all. Hope for Cleveland’s sake he is at least decent. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/285 "2014-05-09T03:29:59Z")
Here it is for the Niners… Marquis Lee? another USC/49er WR bust? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/286 "2014-05-09T03:30:35Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I’m Hamlet, and I support this message. Dallas did something similar in '89 (Aikman and Walsh) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/287 "2014-05-09T03:32:25Z")
Walsh was a supplemental pick. ETA: If the Seahawks get Marquise Lee I will riot. He’s not the typical USC receiver. He’s going to be a star. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/288 "2014-05-09T03:32:44Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What’s that coaching cliche? If you have two quarterbacks, you don’t have any? You are taking up a roster spot with a guy who offers nothing unless the first guy is hurt. > > Much easier just to draft another guy the _following_ year. Any chance a team adopts a 2 Qb offense in the future? Where you have your typical passing Qb, and then the “joker” type playing all over the field worth the ability to run or catch a lateral and throw a pass down field. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/289 "2014-05-09T03:33:26Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What’s that coaching cliche? If you have two quarterbacks, you don’t have any? You are taking up a roster spot with a guy who offers nothing unless the first guy is hurt. > > Much easier just to draft another guy the _following_ year. Better yet, drafting a QB the year before. I really dislike the tendency to start rookie QB’s rather than letting them learn the position. Brees sat for a year. Brady sat for year. Rodgers sat for 3. The fact that Peyton Manning started year one seems to indicate everyone should, but he’s Peyton fucking Manning. More than any other position in the NFL, QB’s need to be developed, and I don’t think the best way to do that is to throw them into the games right away. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/290 "2014-05-09T03:33:56Z")
Who? I didn’t scout safeties. Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/291 "2014-05-09T03:34:09Z")
Love the Niner’s Ward pick ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/292 "2014-05-09T03:35:21Z")
When I see Manziel I have to wonder how he will fit in games between the [King and Opilio seasons.](https://www.facebook.com/CaptainElliottNeese) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/293 "2014-05-09T03:36:38Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Fucking Pats. Easley may never be a superstar but he is going to start for 10 years. I don’t know Easley from a hole in the wall (and I don’t know many holes in walls in case you were wondering), but his NFL grade (5.3) is miles lower than even the biggest reach so far (Ja Wuan James at 5.7). I tire of the “Patriots are great drafters” canard. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/294 "2014-05-09T03:36:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Walsh was a supplemental pick. > > ETA: If the Seahawks get Marquise Lee I will riot. He’s not the typical USC receiver. He’s going to be a star. Exactly why I said “similar” :). Worried someone would come in and do exactly what you did. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/295 "2014-05-09T03:36:46Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Better yet, drafting a QB the year before. I really dislike the tendency to start rookie QB’s rather than letting them learn the position. Brees sat for a year. Brady sat for year. Rodgers sat for 3. The fact that Peyton Manning started year one seems to indicate everyone should, but he’s Peyton fucking Manning. More than any other position in the NFL, QB’s need to be developed, and I don’t think the best way to do that is to throw them into the games right away. Andrew Luck started right away. Matt Ryan started right away. Eli Manning basically started right away. I don’t think it really makes that much difference. ETA: I don’t think the Pats are great drafters. I think Easley is an exception. He’s heavily downgraded because of an ACL injury, but if not for that he’d have been a top ten pick. He almost singlehandedly kept the Gators from being run over last season. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/296 "2014-05-09T03:43:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > ETA: I don’t think the Pats are great drafters. Tom Brady in the 7th is the most prescient pick of all time! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/297 "2014-05-09T03:48:18Z")
Well, Cleveland spent the Trent Richardson pick on Johnny Manziel and significantly upgraded the running back position. Cleveland got a first rounder for Trent Richardson. And one for moving down 5 spots in the draft. That’s some value. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/298 "2014-05-09T04:03:43Z")
Good for the Vikings, getting Bridgewater. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/299 "2014-05-09T04:15:20Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Good for the Vikings, getting Bridgewater. Very much like that spot for him. The shock has worn off and I’ve stopped drinking battery acid. NFLN’s Daniel Jeremiah said in April that Smith wouldn’t last beyond #35 based on a couple GMs he spoke with. Not only that, but mock drafts are stupid and it’s stupid to hate a pick based on “value” according to mock drafts. I like Smith quite a bit and he plays one of the most important roles, which also happens to be the shallowest. I can live with it. Maybe a reach, that’s okay. I guess what’s frustrating is that it doesn’t seem like a BPA pick, which is what the Eagles were so well positioned to do. They haven’t had much luck drafting for need over the last several years. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/300 "2014-05-09T04:49:28Z")
Ok, so the Browns drafted Bo Callahan, uh, Johnny Manziel and many of their fans are giddy like children on Christmas Eve, and as excited and hopeful as if they just finished watching _Draft Day_. But the Browns still suck. They could have drafted Peyton Luck and they’d still suck. They do suck a bit less, I’ll allow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634.md?page=16)