# 2014 NFL Draft

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 4, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634 "2014-05-04T13:58:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/341 "2014-05-09T18:32:24Z")

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Yeah, I really liked what the Browns did in the 1st. Fun to watch them move around so much and I liked who they picked. The extra 1st Rounder on top? Nice.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/342 "2014-05-09T19:14:05Z")

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From Bradley Roby’s [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) prospect analysis:

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> **STRENGTHS** Good size. Has thin ankles and large hands.

Thin ankles?! Why is that so desirable?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/343 "2014-05-09T19:21:14Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> On an unrelated note: the more I think about it, the more I think the Eagles goofed by not taking Marquise Lee. On the other hand, that leaves the faintest possibility that the Buccaneers will take him, which would be awesome.

As an Eagles fan, I’m not. He’s not an ideal fit for Kelly, there will be good WRs available in round 2. I wanted BPA on defense.

Whether the guy they got is in fact that, I’m not as sure …

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/344 "2014-05-09T19:28:52Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Thin ankles?! Why is that so desirable?

Nobody likes cankles.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/345 "2014-05-09T19:51:51Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Newest 49er, Jimmie Ward…
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> Like I said, I didn’t scout safeties, so I didn’t know him ahead of time. That sucks because his name was nowhere on the draft guide I handed out this year to friends and coworkers. They knew it was incomplete this year, but I still look bad.
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> Anyway, Ward will play nickel to start off with, not safety. He played that spot quite a bit at Northern Illinois, and played it well. The film I’ve watched so far is encouraging. Ward is active, aggressive, and fast. He covers well for a safety, and despite being on the smaller size, tackles well, definitely not like most corners. He also blitzes well, and blocks a lot of kicks, so I can see the 49ers sending him from the slot position.
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> I was hoping for a splash and a star, so this is a little underwhelming. The coaching and scouting staff has a good track record for picking defensive backs, so Jimmie Ward should be no worse than a solid starter. I certainly didn’t much like the alternatives at the #30 spot.
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> Can’t wait for tonight. The 49ers have lots of picks today, and there’s lots of available mid-round talent.

In reality other then Wr what other position would have a chance at seeing significant playing time but a DB? I’m fine at the back end of a round with a playoff team reaching to grab a position of need. Now a top half team like the Dolphins taking a OT (which they needed but quite a reach) is different.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/346 "2014-05-09T20:01:40Z")

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The 49ers trade a conditional 2015 4th Round pick to the Bills for WR Stevie Johnson. Could become a 3rd Rounder.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/347 "2014-05-09T20:09:36Z")

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I wonder if anyone wants Derrick Carr. If so, the Browns would be the spot to go right before the Raiders. For a first next year. ALL THE FIRST ROUND PICKS

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/348 "2014-05-09T20:29:48Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> For a first next year. ALL THE FIRST ROUND PICKS

Fucking greedy bastard. You take the drunken owner of the Colts behind the shed for a little _ugh ugh_ for Trent Richardson and then give the Bills the ol’ in/out to let them move up a few spots and you’re not satisfied?

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/349 "2014-05-09T20:33:04Z")

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He is drunk on power.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/350 "2014-05-09T20:33:31Z")

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Give me Aaron Rodgers for Johnny Manziel’s girlfriend and a keg.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/351 "2014-05-09T21:03:32Z")

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I wonder if Manziel is the most polarizing prospect in recent history. Tebow got as much or more media attention, but I don’t think there were nearly as many people who actually thought Tebow would be good. It was a shock he went in the first round, whereas the media story is that it was unexpected that Manziel “fell” to around the same area.

He certainly has a lot of very strong proponents and detractors. I don’t know what to make of him. What do you guys think?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/352 "2014-05-09T21:13:19Z")

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Actually, I made a [separate thread to discuss Manziel.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17363665#post17363665) Please come if you have an opinion.

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/353 "2014-05-09T21:15:49Z")

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Coming in late to say how much I love the Steelers’ pick. Lots of speed, lots of burst, and great character. He’s a lighter, more athletic(!) version of Lawrence Timmons. They still need some big uglies up front to keep him clean. I’m hoping for an end or Nose Tackle in the next few rounds to do just that. Of course the Steeler message boards are filled with whinging over not drafting a corner. Obviously none of them have paid more than passing attention to how the Super Bowl teams were built.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/354 "2014-05-09T22:18:17Z")

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Well, I was wrong. Apparently Gordon may have failed a test for pot and may get suspended for a year. For fucks sake, just when things are starting to look up. FML.

If true, Browns pretty much have to grab Lee or their favorite receiver here.

ESPN is saying the Browns are just learning about it now. What weird timing. That can’t be a coincidence, can it?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/355 "2014-05-09T22:35:39Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Well, I was wrong. Apparently Gordon may have failed a test for pot and may get suspended for a year. For fucks sake, just when things are starting to look up. FML.
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> If true, Browns pretty much have to grab Lee or their favorite receiver here.
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> ESPN is saying the Browns are just learning about it now. What weird timing. That can’t be a coincidence, can it?

Dumb, but not as dumb as the policy that makes pot a banned substance.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/356 "2014-05-09T22:39:53Z")

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Something really fishy is going on. The test was apparently failed months ago, but ESPN is reporting that the Browns didn’t know, and they were learning it from the ESPN report. But it came out an hour before day 2 of the draft? [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) has no news about it. Gordon has been out in public talking about how he’s excited about the upcoming season, etc.

Very weird story.

Edit: If this were true, and the Browns knew, they would’ve given a 4th rounder next year for Stevie Johnson easily, which would likely be higher than SF’s pick. So either the Browns didn’t know, or this is bullshit, or… what the hell.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/357 "2014-05-09T22:41:03Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Dumb, but not as dumb as the policy that makes pot a banned substance.

Seriously. An entire year for weed? That’s a bang-up job by the players’ union.

Ugh. He’s still young enough that it won’t ruin his career. And at least he’s cutting my heart out months before the season starts.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/358 "2014-05-09T23:21:25Z")

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God ‏@TheTweetOfGod 12m  
I just don’t like Cleveland sports.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/359 "2014-05-09T23:25:41Z")

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Well, Lee’s knee injury must be a big thing, because the Brown passed on all those WRs for a guard. I guess they’re hoping to land Lattimore or someone in the third, or maybe trade back up into the 2nd.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/360 "2014-05-09T23:31:52Z")

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The way Bill Polian talked about Bitonio, I hate that the Panthers passed on him even more. I’m amazed at the Browns’ draft so far. Meaning it’s been good.

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