# 2014 NFL Draft

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 4, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634 "2014-05-04T13:58:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/361 "2014-05-09T23:53:57Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> The way Bill Polian talked about Bitonio, I hate that the Panthers passed on him even more.

Especially for Kelvin Benjamin. He’s got great size, but he’s a one year wonder who 20% of his production came in one game (where he committed blatant pass interference for 1/4th of his yardage total). I’m not a fan of his, and I do think Bitonio would have been the better pick.

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**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/362 "2014-05-09T23:56:55Z")

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The top of the second round is the most prevalent example of GM’s with false consensus cognitive biases. They seem to think that everyone else is out for their guy.

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**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/363 "2014-05-09T23:58:23Z")

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What do you think of Bitonio as a zone blocking guard fit?

What do you think of the Browns draft so far? Gilbert, Manziel, Bitonio, Bills first and fourth next year.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/364 "2014-05-10T00:13:44Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> What do you think of Bitonio as a zone blocking guard fit?
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> What do you think of the Browns draft so far? Gilbert, Manziel, Bitonio, Bills first and fourth next year.

I think it’s been very good. However, we won’t know until at least two years from now, unless some of these guys flame out in the pre-season. I like what they’ve done.

Too bad Josh Gordon had to spoil the fun with a year ling suspension. I thought the Browns would have gone after Lee from USC, but i think there is always value for WR’s in the later rounds.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/365 "2014-05-10T00:17:34Z")

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I’m trying to follow picks on my phone, but it seems to be updating too slowly on ESPN. What happened with Falcons and Bucs?

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/366 "2014-05-10T00:31:32Z")

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The draft analysis has degenerated to this, on both the NFL Network and ESPN:

The (team X) are on the clock.

ESPN - Mel - the (team X) needs a (position). I think they have to select (player at position)

NFL Network - Mike Mayock - the (team X) needs a (position). I think they have to select (player at position)

Announcement at podium-

With the (number pick) of the 2014 NFL draft, The (team x) selects (another player that Kiper and Mayock didn’t have).  
Kiper - this was the other guy I thought for the (team X), however my personal selection would have been the better choice at this position. My guy has much better value for this draft position.  
Mayock - this was a good pick - i had him on my list for (team X)

Kiper and Mayock - this is a player with (current round -1) round talent. The (team X) may have the steal of the draft.

Kiper and Mayock - the (team x) stay true to their board  
Kiper and Mayock - this is a player that fits (team X) mold perfectly  
Kiper and Mayock - this is a player who is plug and play from day one.

Switch to player - shot of player bawling, tears pouring out of his eyes, as he realizes that every relative sitting in the room with him expects him to take care of them with his signing bonus.

Break to Melissa Stark - (to olayer X) - “what are your emotions?”

Player X- “I feel blessed”. “I can’t wait to get started.” “I am ready to work”

Stark - how do you feel being a (team x)?

Player X - “I feel blessed”. “I can’t wait to get started.” “I am ready to work”

Stark - "is there anything you want to say to the fans of (team X)?

Player X - “I feel blessed”. “I can’t wait to get started.” “I am ready to work”

Kiper and Mayock - "Wow. What a story. (Player x) had to overcome such diversity. It is really an amazing story.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/367 "2014-05-10T00:33:10Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> I’m trying to follow picks on my phone, but it seems to be updating too slowly on ESPN. What happened with Falcons and Bucs?

5 (37)Falcons Hageman, Ra’Shede DT 6’6" 310 Minnesota 6.0

6(38) Buccaneers Seferian-Jenkins, Austin TE 6’5" 262 Washington 5.4

7(39) Jaguars Lee, Marqise WR 6’0" 192 USC 6.2

8(40) Lions (From Vikings through Seahawks) Van Noy, Kyle OLB 6’3" 243 BYU 5.4

9(41) Rams (From Bills) Joyner, Lamarcus CB 5’8" 184 Florida St. 5.2

10(42) Eagles (From Titans) Matthews, Jordan WR 6’3" 212 Vanderbilt 5.7

11(43) Giants Richburg, Weston C 6’3" 298 Colorado St. 5.3

12(44) Bills (From Rams) Kouandjio, Cyrus OT 6’7" 322 Alabama 5.8

13(45) Seahawks (From Lions) Richardson, Paul WR 6’0" 175 Colorado 5.2

14(46) Steelers Tuitt, Stephon DE 6’5" 304 Notre Dame 6.1

15(47) Redskins (From Cowboys) Murphy, Trent OLB 6’5" 250 Stanford 5.6

16(48) Ravens Jernigan, Timmy NT 6’2" 299 Florida St. 5.8

17(49) Jets Amaro, Jace TE 6’5" 265 Texas Tech

18 (50) Chargers (From Dolphins) Attaochu, Jeremiah OLB 6’3" 252 Georgia Tech 5.8

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/368 "2014-05-10T00:34:07Z")

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Kony Ealy? Nope.

So Ego who? Fuck.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/369 "2014-05-10T00:35:21Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Kony Ealy?

Pass on Nix for Ego. Interesting.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/370 "2014-05-10T00:36:42Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> So Ego who? Fuck.

He made my “Name Team”, if that 's any consolation.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/371 "2014-05-10T00:39:30Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Dumb, but not as dumb as the policy that makes pot a banned substance.

You can’t think like that. He knew the rules. You are just making a political statement. But the NFL can’t look like it condones drug use, even if most people could care less that someone puffed on a joint. The Players Union can’t fight for a drug that is illegal. That looks bad, and is bad PR.

Seriously, no one cares if Josh Gordon smokes a joint. But why would he do it at this point of his career? Regardless of whether or not you think it is a big deal, Gordon made a very bad choice.

It’s a shame, really… It puts a damper on what the Browns are doing in the draft, and taking him out of Manziel’s arsenal is NOT going to help Johnny Football.

> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Seriously. An entire year for weed? That’s a bang-up job by the players’ union.
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> Ugh. He’s still young enough that it won’t ruin his career. And at least he’s cutting my heart out months before the season starts.

It is a year for any second positive teat, which makes this news even worse for Gordon. I mean, he got caught once. Then, he gets caught again? This was just a flat out stupid decision by Gordon. Anyone who gets busted for weed has to be a moron. From what I understand, the drug tests aren’t as “random” as the public has been told. Players are apparently aware that one is coming within a week or two, so getting a positive test, especially for pot, is just pathetic.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/372 "2014-05-10T00:41:02Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> It is a year for any second positive teat,

That is one bizarre drug test.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/373 "2014-05-10T00:41:42Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Pass on Nix for Ego. Interesting.

Emery really needs to take an economics class.

From the [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) profile:

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> Needs more glass in his diet and simply does not impact games the way he should. Is likely to test well and be drafted higher than his performance dictates in the hopes a defensive line coach can tap into his potential.

Not in love with this at all.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/374 "2014-05-10T00:42:57Z")

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Oh my. Lots of ways for the Packers to go here. Moses? Nix? Hyde? Ealy? Martin?

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/375 "2014-05-10T00:45:12Z")

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Davante likes him some white women, he’ll be fine in Wisco.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/376 "2014-05-10T00:45:36Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Pass on Nix for Ego. Interesting.

Something has to be up with Nix. At the beginning, was supposed to be a mid to late first rounder, and he is dropping like a rock.

Is there an injury history here? Or is it discipline/attitude?

Steelers skip on a CB again. I don’t know the pick they made, other than by name so I don’t know if it was a good pick or not. But they NEED a CB badly.

3rd round, the Steelers usually grab a WR, so I hope they change up and get a CB.  
Any RB coming off the board?

I have to be honest. If there is a stud RB when the Steelers draft in the 3rd, it wouldn’t bother me too much if they rolled the dice. They won’t because they have Bell and now Blount, but great RB’s are so hard to find. If there was a guy that looked like the next AP, take him!

The NFL has devalued RB’s too much, IMO.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/377 "2014-05-10T00:45:47Z")

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More tape to watch. I really like TT’s history of 2nd round WR picks (Cobb, Nelson, and Jennings), so I’ll trust him.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/378 "2014-05-10T00:47:10Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> That is one bizarre drug test.

LOL!

Have I mentioned I loathe apple’s auto correct?

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/379 "2014-05-10T00:47:12Z")

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Did Carlos Hyde kill a hooker at the combine?

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-nfl-draft/687634/380 "2014-05-10T00:54:07Z")

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Well I was wrong about the WR. I thought one off those TEs would have been available, but that mini-run meant there weren’t any left worth taking.

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