# 2014 SDMB March Madness Tournament Pool: The Sequel (on ESPN)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 18, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030 "2014-03-18T22:08:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/61 "2014-03-22T03:19:12Z")

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I had VCU going to the Sweet 16. Ouch!

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/62 "2014-03-22T07:25:38Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> K-State begins the game down 1-0, when UK gets two free throws before the opening tip for a technical foul called on a K-State walk-on for dunking during warm-ups. What kind of stupid rule is that?

It’s been the rule forever. It may not make much sense, but anyone who’s played High School ball would know this by heart. I’m amazed this happened in an NCAA Tournament game. The guy was a walk-on, so maybe the moment just got the better of him.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/63 "2014-03-22T12:09:54Z")

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Standings after the opening round.

_Bracket name, Points, Possible Points Remaining, Champion_\*  
wolfman1393 1, 270, 1560, Michigan  
Ponch8 1, 260, 1580, Florida  
etv78 1, 260, 980, [del]Duke[/del]  
85 BracketMatology (Y), 250, 1810, Florida  
Knorf’s Wacko Bracket (Y), 250, 1610, Arizona  
NFMensa 1, 250, 1500, Florida  
Wolverine 1, 250, 1460, Florida  
mtrg’s Reasonable Bracket (Y), 240, 1800, Florida  
Purple Passion, 240, 1540, Florida  
Raza B 1, 240, 1540, Florida  
Ace331, 240, 1520, Florida  
Knorf’s Legendary Bracket (Y), 240, 1520, Kansas  
SouthernYankee1, 240, 1520, Florida  
Bo Knows Basketball, 240, 1500, Florida  
HubZilla, 240, 1400, Kansas  
RetroVertigo, 240, 980, [del]Duke[/del]  
Shooter Flatch (Y), 230, 1770, Michigan St.  
jms12084 1, 230, 1540, Louisville  
Jayhawks all the way! (Y), 230, 1510, Kansas  
Oakminster 2, 230, 1460, Florida  
Isaac’s Amazing Bracket (Y), 230, 1450, Florida  
John’s Matchless Bracket (Y), 230, 1430, Louisville  
Knorf’s Irritated Picks, 230, 1400, Arizona  
Shoeless, 230, 1300, Michigan St  
JohnHa84 1, 230, 1200, Louisville  
Shoeless (Y), 220, 1760, Michigan St.  
Frosty’s Picks, 220, 1500, Florida  
Raza B 2, 220, 1180, Wichita St  
Hamlet’s Coin Flips (Y), 210, 1630, Kansas  
jackaroe, 210, 1520, Louisville  
jcatcher43 1, 210, 1520, Arizona  
Biotop123 3, 200, 1480, Virginia  
jimmychitwoodsd 1, 200, 1480, Florida

- (Y) denotes a bracket from the Yahoo! pool

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/64 "2014-03-23T01:30:00Z")

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Dayton continues to roll, knocking out Syracuse. Which means if my Jayhawks manage to beat Stanford tomorrow, they face Dayton next. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/65 "2014-03-23T12:40:37Z")

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The mighty Gators’ path has gotten a skosh easier now that syracuse has gone down in a shocking upset.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/66 "2014-03-23T14:27:21Z")

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I had not looked at the standings until this morning. I am surprised that I am doing as well as I am.

My Final four is still playing and 7/8 of the elite 8. Thanks Ohio St!!

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/67 "2014-03-23T15:05:37Z")

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I’m doing ok. Still have all of my Elite 8 still kicking. My final 4 is comprised of 1,2,4,8 seeds, so my bracket depends on that 8 seed to keep winning for at least 2, preferably 3 more games.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/68 "2014-03-23T21:06:18Z")

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This Wichita St./Kentucky game is awesome.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/69 "2014-03-23T22:19:42Z")

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Kentucky earned it. What an egregiously under-seeded team.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/70 "2014-03-24T01:35:20Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Kentucky earned it. What an egregiously under-seeded team.

Clearly part of a global conspiracy to destroy my bracket. :smack:

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/71 "2014-03-24T01:47:49Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Kentucky earned it. What an egregiously under-seeded team.

Nah. They didn’t deserve better than that. They lost ten games and didn’t win their conference. Many of their losses were to less than stellar teams too. It’s just that they have a lot of talent and they are only now starting to play together as they are all freshmen.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/72 "2014-03-24T12:40:20Z")

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Standings after the opening weekend:

wolfman1393 1, 490, 1240, Michigan  
Ace331, 460, 1200, Florida  
SouthernYankee1, 460, 1160, Florida  
Ponch8 1, 460, 1080, Florida  
etv78 1, 460, 520, [del]Duke[/del]  
HubZilla, 460, 480, [del]Kansas[/del]  
85 BracketMatology (Y), 430, 1670, Florida  
Bo Knows Basketball, 420, 1200, Florida  
Purple Passion, 420, 1120, Florida  
Knorf’s Legendary Bracket (Y), 420, 780, [del]Kansas[/del]  
RetroVertigo, 420, 600, [del]Duke[/del]  
Knorf’s Wacko Bracket (Y), 410, 1410, Arizona  
John’s Matchless Bracket (Y), 410, 1330, Louisville  
jcatcher43 1, 410, 1200, Arizona  
Wolverine 1, 410, 1080, Florida  
Shoeless, 410, 920, Michigan St  
NFMensa 1, 410, 920, Florida  
JohnHa84 1, 410, 920, Louisville  
jms12084 1, 410, 880, Louisville  
Jayhawks all the way! (Y), 410, 770, [del]Kansas[/del]  
Shoeless (Y), 400, 1480, Michigan St.  
mtrg’s Reasonable Bracket (Y), 400, 1480, Florida  
Frosty’s Picks, 400, 1160, Florida  
jimmychitwoodsd 1, 400, 1160, Florida  
Raza B 1, 400, 1080, Florida  
Shooter Flatch (Y), 390, 1470, Michigan St.  
jackaroe, 390, 1160, Louisville  
Knorf’s Irritated Picks, 370, 960, Arizona  
Isaac’s Amazing Bracket (Y), 350, 1150, Florida  
Hamlet’s Coin Flips (Y), 310, 750, [del]Kansas[/del]  
Oakminster 2, 370, 920, Florida  
Biotop123 3, 360, 18080, Virginia  
Raza B 2, 300, 80, [del]Wichita St[/del]

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/73 "2014-03-24T13:09:09Z")

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Woo hoo! 3rd place! Hopefully I have a chance to pass **Ace331** before the final…

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/74 "2014-03-29T05:05:26Z")

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I’m still in top 5. What needs to happen for me to win?

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/75 "2014-03-29T05:29:01Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> I’m still in top 5. What needs to happen for me to win?

Looks like you need to root for UK to beat Michigan to have a chance of jumping ahead of the wolfman bracket.

Not quite sure what “PPR” is, but I’m leading that category, so, yay?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/76 "2014-03-29T05:32:14Z")

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Points Per Round I believe.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/77 "2014-03-29T13:31:34Z")

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> [@fiddlesticks](#):
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> Not quite sure what “PPR” is, but I’m leading that category, so, yay?

PPR is Possible Points Remaining. Brackets with all four Final Four picks still intact would have 960 PPR.

**Results after Sweet Sixteen (Bracket, Points, PPR, Champ)**  
wolfman1393 1, 690, 880, Michigan  
etv78 1, 660, 320, [del]Duke[/del]  
Ponch8 1, 620, 880, Florida  
SouthernYankee1, 620, 720, Florida  
NFMensa 1, 610, 720, Florida  
mtrg’s Reasonable Bracket (Y), 600, 880, Florida  
85 BracketMatology (Y), 590, 880, Florida  
Bo Knows Basketball, 580, 960, Florida  
Ace331, 580, 720, Florida  
Purple Passion, 580, 640, Florida  
HubZilla, 580, 320, [del]Kansas[/del]  
Knorf’s Legendary Bracket (Y), 580, 160, [del]Kansas[/del]  
jms12084 1, 570, 80, [del]Louisville[/del]  
Raza B 1, 560, 800, Florida  
Frosty’s Picks, 560, 720, Florida  
Shooter Flatch (Y), 550, 640, Michigan St.  
RetroVertigo, 540, 400, [del]Duke[/del]  
jcatcher43 1, 530, 800, Arizona  
Shoeless, 530, 720, Michigan St  
Wolverine 1, 530, 640, Florida  
JohnHa84 1, 530, 160, [del]Louisville[/del]  
John’s Matchless Bracket (Y), 530, 160, [del]Louisville[/del]  
Shoeless (Y), 520, 880, Michigan St.  
jimmychitwoodsd 1, 520, 640, Florida  
Oakminster 2, 490, 800, Florida  
Knorf’s Irritated Picks, 490, 800, Arizona  
Knorf’s Wacko Bracket (Y), 490, 560, Arizona  
Jayhawks all the way! (Y), 490, 80, [del]Kansas[/del]  
Biotop123 3, 480, 320, [del]Virginia[/del]  
jackaroe, 470, 240, [del]Louisville[/del]  
Isaac’s Amazing Bracket (Y), 430, 560, Florida  
Hamlet’s Coin Flips (Y), 430, 320, [del]Kansas[/del]  
Raza B 2, 380, 0, [del]Wichita St[/del]  
Go Spartans! You’re my only hope!

ETA: I didn’t notice until this morning that the Yahoo group was showing total possible points, not points remaining. So the PPRs I had listed in previous standings for Yahoo brackets were incorrect, but they are fixed now.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/78 "2014-03-29T17:06:03Z")

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Go Gators! Dayton’s going down.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/79 "2014-03-29T17:08:55Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Nah. They didn’t deserve better than that. They lost ten games and didn’t win their conference. Many of their losses were to less than stellar teams too. It’s just that they have a lot of talent and they are only now starting to play together as they are all freshmen.

Yes they did deserve a better seed (Kentucky); they should have been more like a 3-4 seed. I agree they under performed in the season somewhat, but the talent was obviously there.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-sdmb-march-madness-tournament-pool-the-sequel-on-espn/684030/80 "2014-03-29T17:09:16Z")

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> [@Ponch8](#):
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> Go Gators! Dayton’s going down.

-1 😉

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