# 2014 Super Bowl to Be Outdoors

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 25, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744 "2010-05-25T20:30:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/81 "2010-05-27T15:56:56Z")

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And who says they have to be "Fair’ when selecteing Super Bowl sites anyway?

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/82 "2010-05-27T16:03:01Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Why fuck with something that didn’t need fucking with?

This is what Goodell is known for, with solid results. He claims success on the London games, though not being in England I couldn’t judge that. They tinkered with the draft two years in a row, first shortening the first day to 2 rounds, then by splitting it into three days and moving it to primetime, and by all accounts this was a spectacular success. They moved the probowl to before the Superbowl, generating a huge boost in tv ratings. Now he’s trying a cold weather Superbowl.

Roger Goodell is all about challenging the status quo. I recall the howling on the SDMB before most of these changes, which in hindsight looks pretty foolish. I expect this to be yet another example of that.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/83 "2010-05-27T16:09:33Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> I don’t buy this argument. No one builds a team based on the weather in the city. New England, Philadelphia, Green Bay, Cincinnati, Denver all have “anti-snow” personnel, and teams like San Diego (of a few years ago), San Francisco, Minnesota (dome), Carolina and Jacksonville all have “maximized for snow conditions” personnel.

Tom Coughlin directly refuted you in the interview I saw this morning where he said outright that the two New York teams are philosophically built around bad weather. Rex Ryan also said basically the same thing, though he only spoke of the Jets. You don’t have to, of course; New England and Philadelphia certainly haven’t. But that doesn’t mean you can’t or that nobody does.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/84 "2010-05-27T16:10:09Z")

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It’s going to be even more outstanding when it’s Green Bay against St. Louis, playing in New York. Then we’ll get to hear all the arguments that plague baseball and basketball about small market teams with no big audiences for extra $$$$.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/85 "2010-05-27T16:17:15Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> And before people tell me that there is so much to do in NY, the game is in NJ, and the stadium is approximately 7 miles away from Manhattan. Not exactly within walking distance.

Oh for crying out loud. There is plenty of public transportation and the bus ride from the Port Authority to the Meadowlands is all of 20 minutes. They’ll probably set up some additional routes the week of the game.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/86 "2010-05-27T16:51:16Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Of course it’s money. That’s what everything always boils down to.

And why shouldn’t it? The nfl isn’t a charity. What else should they base their decisions on?

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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/87 "2010-05-28T06:08:17Z")

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I think a large reason for scheduling this game in New Jersey is the Jets and Giants have not sold all the PSLs yet. Now they have another carrot to dangle since Goodell had to retract his statement about PSLs being a good investment.

Maybe the temperature won’t be so bad because it is close to the ocean. But it wouldn’t be impossible to get a massive snowstorm either. And for all this talk about the Ice Bowl in Green Bay in 1967, wasn’t the previous years game in Dallas just as good? The Ice Bowl did just happen to coincide with Jerry Kramer’s “Instant Replay” book which gave it synergy.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/88 "2010-05-28T13:35:25Z")

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From what I’ve read the Giants have sold 80,000 PSLs and the Jets only 65,000. Meaning the Giants are all set but the Jets are hurting. Hurting so much that they recently threatened blacking out the games if the PSLs don’t sell out, after which they quickly released a retraction.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2014-super-bowl-to-be-outdoors/540744/89 "2010-05-28T15:02:22Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> And for all this talk about the Ice Bowl in Green Bay in 1967, wasn’t the previous years game in Dallas just as good? The Ice Bowl did just happen to coincide with Jerry Kramer’s “Instant Replay” book which gave it synergy.

Yes, the '66 NFL Championship was another last-minute victory for the Packers (intercepting a Dallas pass in the end zone to stop the Cowboys), but, in addition to Kramer’s book, it also had the incredible weather conditions as a backdrop.

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