# 2015-16 Barclays Premier League Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 3, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837 "2015-08-03T01:08:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/162 "2015-12-14T15:51:52Z")

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Which is hardly an unfamiliar tie in that competition. People are already writing the Gunners off. Which I can understand, to be fair. But, if we’ve got our shit together, we could do it. I concede that’s a pretty big “if.” A side that can weather the Messineymarsuárez storm faces a backfield that is not always all that steady, and I think the Gunners can manage Alves and Iniesta. It’s a long shot, regardless.

In other news, Chelsea and Mourwinher have drawn PSG; Manchester City will face racist fanless Dynamo Kiev.

In the Europa League, the Danish powerhouse Midtjylland have drawn some other team from Manchester.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/163 "2015-12-14T16:04:50Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Also point out the bigotry

Making a point of referring to the ‘foreigner’ aspect of it. Why are billionaire foreigners any worse than billionaire Englishmen? As a Newcastle fan, give me a foreigner owner please ;).

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/164 "2015-12-14T17:01:16Z")

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Vote Labour and rid ourselves of all the owners, domestic and otherwise.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/165 "2015-12-14T17:05:48Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Making a point of referring to the ‘foreigner’ aspect of it. Why are billionaire foreigners any worse than billionaire Englishmen? As a Newcastle fan, give me a foreigner owner please ;).

Ok…I get it. My point was that the Bundesliga dont allow any billionaire to gain a majority interest in any team. And they have financial responsibility rules [Soccer: The success of Germany's Bundesliga - ESPN](http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5673975/success-germany-bundesliga) . So there are no Man Citys or Chelseas in the Bundesliga yet they still manage to develop some of the worlds best players and reclaim others.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/166 "2015-12-14T17:42:18Z")

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Depends on which Arsenal side shows up. If Arsenal who beat Munich show up, then Messi Suarz Neymar are in trouble. If Arsenal which lost to Bayern show up…

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/167 "2015-12-14T17:47:18Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> In the Europa League, the Danish powerhouse Midtjylland have drawn some other team from Manchester.

Come on Reds!!! Make these Danes famous. You can do it!

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/168 "2015-12-14T17:53:19Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Depends on which Arsenal side shows up. If Arsenal who beat Munich show up, then Messi Suarz Neymar are in trouble. If Arsenal which lost to Bayern show up…

Barcelona aren’t really that “on” this season. We just tied our two last matches.

Of course Arsenal won’t have Coquelin ready. Or Cazorla. But mostly the problem is facing Barcelona with just Flamini. Unless, of course, Wenger invests big time in the winter market. Said he, sarcastically.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/169 "2015-12-14T18:14:32Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Come on Reds!!! Make these Danes famous. You can do it!

The Midgies have already taken out Southampton in this tourney and while the Saints have obviously struggles this season, the difference in quality between them and United is not mountainous.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/170 "2015-12-14T19:06:13Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Making a point of referring to the ‘foreigner’ aspect of it. Why are billionaire foreigners any worse than billionaire Englishmen? As a Newcastle fan, give me a foreigner owner please ;).

You already got your Christmas present!:mad:

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/171 "2015-12-14T19:09:11Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> Vote Labour and rid ourselves of all the owners, domestic and otherwise.

Is this actually a Labour proposal? How would it work?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/172 "2015-12-14T19:36:04Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Is this actually a Labour proposal? How would it work?

Not exactly. I think Labour has a proposal that supporters’ groups must be given a chance to purchase whenever 10% or more of a club is sold, or some such.

Basically, I share the German philosophy that sports would be a better world if the fans owned the clubs. Even while knowing that two of the biggest supporter-owned clubs in the world have figured out how to cheat the system as well as any single owner could have.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/173 "2015-12-14T20:18:46Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Annnnnnnd you re going to lose the Europa League final to Klopps 10th place Liverpool and miss out on another spot.

A nice easy run of games I thought… I should know better.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/174 "2015-12-14T20:24:00Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Depends on which Arsenal side shows up. If Arsenal who beat Munich show up, then Messi Suarz Neymar are in trouble. If Arsenal which lost to Bayern show up…

Although I’m obviously not a fan of your lot, I’d love to see The Woolwich give them a hiding, the last time I remember them playing each other the red card for Van Persie was one of the worst refereeing decisions I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/175 "2015-12-14T20:27:21Z")

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> [@Busy\_Scissors](#):
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> Been down to Goodison a couple of times recently - some phenomenal talents on the park, as Roberto would say. Football fans of all colours and persuasions are making the trip to Everton just so they can tell their grandkids they saw John Stones play football.
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> Frustrating that the results are not doing justice to the side - the team is young and seems to lack the collective sack to convert close games. Defence is fine, player by player, but is missing something as a unit, not helped by Tim Howard being well on the decline. So important to have a solid goalkeeper - destroys morale when the keeper is weak. Tough spot to fill, as well - need someone to grow into the role, rare to just slot a young guy in and have them perform from the get-go.

When Eddie Cavanagh is the most famous person you’ve ever had on the pitch for you, you need to realise your place in football:D

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/176 "2015-12-14T21:18:50Z")

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Looks like Leicester is the new Barcelona

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/177 "2015-12-14T23:16:31Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Looks like Leicester is the new Barcelona

Order is restored and after relegation threatened Bournemouth and Newcastle beat top five teams the top of the league club has put Chelsea in their place. 🙂

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/178 "2015-12-15T04:24:57Z")

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Claudio Raineri. Former Chelsea coach. The man Jose replaced back in 2004. Must be sweet.

[QUOTE=mascaroni]  
Although I’m obviously not a fan of your lot, I’d love to see The Woolwich give them a hiding, the last time I remember them playing each other the red card for Van Persie was one of the worst refereeing decisions I’ve ever seen.  
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Lehmans sending off in the 2006 final was pretty bad as well. As was the 2009 Semi Final against Chelsea. I remember Pep ( a decent chap) being quite embarrassed both times. Barca get lots of ref love.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/179 "2015-12-15T15:38:20Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Claudio Raineri. Former Chelsea coach. The man Jose replaced back in 2004. Must be sweet.  
> Lehmans sending off in the 2006 final was pretty bad as well. As was the 2009 Semi Final against Chelsea. I remember Pep ( a decent chap) being quite embarrassed both times. Barca get lots of ref love.

Wasnt the ref names Oviedo although he called himself Norwegian? It really smelled of a fix.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/180 "2015-12-15T17:08:32Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> …Lehmans sending off in the 2006 final was pretty bad as well. As was the 2009 Semi Final against Chelsea. I remember Pep ( a decent chap) being quite embarrassed both times.

I didn’t see much wrong with Lehman’s red card. I was spitting feathers in 2009 with the Chelsea game; two absolutely definate penalties and two other “I’ve seen them given” penalties denied. They might as well been playing the Harlem Globetrotters, not only because of the use of hands, but it seemed like the result had already been decided. And who was sitting with the Barcelona top brass and celebrating their last minute equaliser that put them through? Yep, Michel Platini, at the time an honourary VP at Barcelona.

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> Barca get lots of ref love.

That’s one porno flick I won’t be watching…

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-16-barclays-premier-league-thread/726837/181 "2015-12-17T15:49:45Z")

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Mourinho just axed at Chelski.

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