# 2015 College Football Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 30, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398 "2015-08-30T16:01:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/321 "2015-10-27T02:47:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And George O’Leary is out at UCF, after building the program.

It’s a sad day. Mike Kruzcek and Daunte Culpepper put us on the map, but O’Leary made us more than just a dusty hamlet, so to speak. Hardly anyone will remember this, but O’Leary did it the right way: he only recruited high character guys, and he graduated his players (often at the expense of his winning percentage).

Gene Chizik is a sneaky bet to replace O’Leary. He was UCF’s defensive coordinator from 1998 to 2001 before his first stint at Auburn, and he’s a local guy; he started his coaching career at Seminole High School near Tampa, and played at Florida.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/322 "2015-10-27T15:39:42Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> That’s true, but Cardale Jones wasn’t a true freshman and Baylor doesn’t have the Buckeyes’ defense and run game.
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> I’m hoping for nobody to emerge undefeated from the Big 12. The way they backload their schedule for the top teams in that conference it looks like a real possibility. TCU still has WVU, Oklahoma, OkState and Baylor.

What you talkin’ about Willin’?

> **[NCAA College Football FBS Stats | NCAA.com](https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/23)**
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> Discover the current NCAA FBS Football leaders in every stats category, as well as historic leaders.

Baylor has the #2 rushing offense with 338 ypg.

tOSU is currently #13 with 247 ypg. Even in 2014, they had just 264 ypg.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/323 "2015-10-27T15:53:25Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Gene Chizik is a sneaky bet to replace O’Leary. He was UCF’s defensive coordinator from 1998 to 2001 before his first stint at Auburn, and he’s a local guy; he started his coaching career at Seminole High School near Tampa, and played at Florida.

I heard Houston Nutt on the radio this morning almost lobbying for the job. He’d be a good hire.

> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> What you talkin’ about Willin’?
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> [http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/23](http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/23)
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> Baylor has the #2 rushing offense with 338 ypg.
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> tOSU is currently #13 with 247 ypg. Even in 2014, they had just 264 ypg.

Well, you got me there. I didn’t realize Baylor was so balanced.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/324 "2015-10-27T17:30:51Z")

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Keep an eye on Stanford (as much as it pains me to say this) – they feel like this year’s Ohio State: an early loss, but the juggernaut keeps rolling. Shaw has loosened up the offense, which has a star in McCaffery. I don’t see anyone on their remaining schedule they’ll have trouble with, including Notre Dame, and the Pac-12 South champion.

Their only problem is that they’ll need help to make the CFP.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/325 "2015-10-27T18:58:43Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Their only problem is that they’ll need help to make the CFP.

They have a lot of that built in schedule help. Just looking at the top 10.

Barring no losses against other teams only one of Ohio State, Michigan State, or Iowa can come out the Big Ten undefeated. OSU plays MSU and Iowa would play the winner in the championship game.

Baylor still has to play TCU.

LSU plays Bama this week.

Stanford controls it’s own destiny against Notre Dame.

Clemson’s the only team that doesn’t have a remaining head to head game against a current AP top 10 team. Of the seven undefeated in the top 10, there are three guaranteed losses before the season is over. Five of current top 10 teams will have another loss by season end. It might not be enough but it’s still quite a bit of help.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/326 "2015-10-27T21:15:09Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> They have a lot of that built in schedule help. Just looking at the top 10.
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> Barring no losses against other teams only one of Ohio State, Michigan State, or Iowa can come out the Big Ten undefeated. OSU plays MSU and Iowa would play the winner in the championship game.
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> Baylor still has to play TCU.
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> LSU plays Bama this week.
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> Stanford controls it’s own destiny against Notre Dame.
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> Clemson’s the only team that doesn’t have a remaining head to head game against a current AP top 10 team. Of the seven undefeated in the top 10, there are three guaranteed losses before the season is over. Five of current top 10 teams will have another loss by season end. It might not be enough but it’s still quite a bit of help.

Yes but even in your scenarios, it’s likely that there will be 3 undefeated conference champions (B1G, Big XII, and ACC). And maybe 4 with LSU. But assume LSU loses to Bama. Will a 1 loss Stanford get in over a 1 loss Bama? I doubt it. Stanford still needs more help from melt down of the Big XII and/or B1G.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/327 "2015-10-27T22:04:54Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Stanford still needs more help from melt down of the Big XII and/or B1G.

That’s the absolutely worst case for Stanford though. There’s still a lot of games for that Top 10 against other currently ranked programs. Baylor especially has a brutal schedule to finish. Needing one or two mild upsets is better than needing a league cellar dweller to knock of your opposition.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/328 "2015-10-28T00:23:04Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> LSU plays Bama this week.

Next week (Nov. 7). Bama has a bye this week.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/329 "2015-10-28T01:45:22Z")

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I think Stanford needs a 1 loss Big 12 champ or a Clemson loss. And of course to beat ND, which I do not think is a foregone conclusion.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/330 "2015-10-28T02:38:39Z")

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> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> Next week (Nov. 7). Bama has a bye this week.

Right you are. I just remembered hearing it was their next game…and I mostly ignore the SEC. My interest there is largely rooting against whichever team Saban is currently coaching. Geaux Tigers!😃

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/331 "2015-10-28T03:22:31Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> Right you are. I just remembered hearing it was their next game…and I mostly ignore the SEC. My interest there is largely rooting against whichever team Saban is currently coaching. Geaux Tigers!😃

Roll Tide.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/332 "2015-10-28T03:37:52Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> I think Stanford needs a 1 loss Big 12 champ or a Clemson loss. And of course to beat ND, which I do not think is a foregone conclusion.

Don’t forget Utah (near-certain Southern Division champ). They coughed up a hairball last week but have looked scary good otherwise. I would bet they will be tougher than ND and could very well end up 12-1 themselves.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/333 "2015-10-28T04:18:09Z")

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Why would Utah be tougher than ND when they just laid a turd against a team that ND handled convincingly enough? That loss was bad enough I think the Utes are out of the playoff picture without a ton of help.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/334 "2015-10-28T04:28:22Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> Why would Utah be tougher than ND when they just laid a turd against a team that ND handled convincingly enough? That loss was bad enough I think the Utes are out of the playoff picture without a ton of help.

ND needed to come from behind in the fourth quarter, and USC was in complete disarray that week with their coaching issues, so I wouldn’t call it an impressive win. I do agree that given equal records, there is no chance that ND wouldn’t get in over Utah. FFS, if the past several years are indicative, ND could have three losses and still get in over a one-loss Utah.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/335 "2015-10-28T04:44:46Z")

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Also, ND got USC at home. But yeah, setting aside my PAC-12 homerism and disdain for ND, I will revise that to “just as tough as ND”. Really, neither of them has a super impressive win at this point.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/336 "2015-10-30T03:14:29Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> That sideline reporter at the USC game is _smokin’ hot!_

Good Lord! The one at the Ore/AZ St. game is even _hotter!_ Where do they find these creatures?

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/337 "2015-10-30T04:26:23Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Good Lord! The one at the Ore/AZ St. game is even _hotter!_ Where do they find these creatures?

She’s not only cute, but her name is Kaylee, which is instant Viagra for a _Firefly_ fan.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/338 "2015-10-30T05:24:30Z")

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Ducks look like they might be turning it around (or ASU is imploding) but I am too damn tired to watch the 4th quarter.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/339 "2015-10-30T05:26:22Z")

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How the hell was that not an interception? Fascists.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/340 "2015-10-30T06:32:47Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Ducks look like they might be turning it around (or ASU is imploding) but I am too damn tired to watch the 4th quarter.

You’re missing a great defensive struggle. 55 all so far.

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