# 2015 College Football Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 30, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398 "2015-08-30T16:01:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/441 "2015-11-13T16:08:58Z")
Does being the best team in one of the top conferences mean nothing? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/442 "2015-11-13T16:23:00Z")
Not if you’re not actually better than all but seven other teams, no. The national championship is not tied in any way to the conferences. If it was, it might make sense to tie playoff positions to conference titles. ---
**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/443 "2015-11-13T16:32:03Z")
Four team playoff. Only the top, say, 24 or 32 teams should be playoff eligible. Call them Tier 1 teams. Each tier 1 team must play at least 8 games against other tier 1 teams (you can still have a few games against your traditional cross-state rivals, etc. ) But only wins against other tier 1 teams count. End of the regular season, top four teams go to the playoffs. Bottom four teams get kicked out of tier 1 and are tier 2 next year. Meanwhile, top four tier 2 teams move up to tier 1. Tier 2 works the same, except wins against tier 2 and tier 1 teams count in the standings. Top four move up to tier 1 next year, bottom four go down to tier 3. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/444 "2015-11-13T16:34:01Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The national championship is not tied in any way to the conferences. If it was, it might make sense to tie playoff positions to conference titles. That’s circular, but wha’evs. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/445 "2015-11-13T18:07:33Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Avoiding losses is why the top teams only schedule easy opponents outside the conferences. Making the conference title all-important lets non-conference games mean something again. A narrow loss to a Top 4 team should not hurt worse than 3 wins against cupcakes - but right now it does. I want to see interconference, intersectional showdowns again, not just a bunch of walkovers. > > They’ve still shown themselves to be the best teams in their conferences, by the only metric that matters. That doesn’t make any sense, if anything non-conference games will mean LESS in this scheme. Why play them at all and risk your guys getting hurt? ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/446 "2015-11-13T18:36:14Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > All IMO: > > The MidMajors should have a National Championship of their very own. I think a Championship game between Memphis and Boise could be compelling. How compelling is the FCS championship each year? For that matter, you might as well put the mid-majors into FCS, and raise the scholarship limits for the other FCS schools while you’re at it. The main problem with this is, by separating the “power five” further from the rest of Division I, you give them more excuse to withhold even more of the “big football money” from the schools that probably really need it. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/447 "2015-11-13T19:03:41Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > That doesn’t make any sense, if anything non-conference games will mean LESS in this scheme. Why play them at all and risk your guys getting hurt? TV money. That’s what it’s all about, right? There’d be a lot more really good games on if programs weren’t in terror of losing one. Or maybe you \*like \*seeing Ohio State play their annual MAC patsy game? > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > How compelling is the FCS championship each year? It can a damn fine game, with all the spectacle, too. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/448 "2015-11-15T04:00:29Z")
Fuckin’ Pac-12! Kick the shit out of yourselves, opening the door to all the other shitty conferences to play for the win. Although, it was pretty watching Stanford squirm. I just switched to UCLA v. Wazzu. Wonder what kind of shit I’ll see here? What channel is that Utah game on? ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/449 "2015-11-15T04:04:17Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Fuckin’ Pac-12! Kick the shit out of yourselves, opening the door to all the other shitty conferences to play for the win. > > Although, it was pretty watching Stanford squirm. > > I just switched to UCLA v. Wazzu. Wonder what kind of shit I’ll see here? What channel is that Utah game on? FS1 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/450 "2015-11-15T04:08:59Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > What channel is that Utah game on? Crap! I just found it! :smack: _Wait a minute_. If the Utes _lose_, does that put my Trojans into the Championship game for the South? We would both have 2 loses, and we beat them. I guess it would depend on the next couple games. Talk about clutch. I need to start drinking either much earlier or much later. Think I’ll go for earlier, since the sun and all. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/451 "2015-11-15T04:48:59Z")
And Oklahoma just about makes the Big 12 irrelevant for the CFP knocking off undefeated Baylor. On second thought, now OU might be back in the mix of one loss teams too. What a mess! ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/452 "2015-11-15T04:58:22Z")
Holy shit! Holy shit! Holy shit! Holy shit! ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/453 "2015-11-15T05:04:32Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > And Oklahoma just about makes the Big 12 irrelevant for the CFP knocking off undefeated Baylor. > > On second thought, now OU might be back in the mix of one loss teams too. What a mess! Oklahoma State is still undefeated so there’s that to consider too. > [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Holy shit! Holy shit! Holy shit! Holy shit! Yep. I had a bad feeling for Baylor going into this game and then ka-BLAM! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/454 "2015-11-15T05:08:04Z")
WSU’s QB is crawling around like me when I do Tequila shooters. Shit, get some medical personal out there ASAP! Aw, he’s up now. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/455 "2015-11-15T06:43:09Z")
Gah-dam Pac-12! :smack: Utes outs. Alright, WSU! Your turn! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/456 "2015-11-15T07:44:33Z")
Aaaand they did it. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/457 "2015-11-15T14:20:36Z")
The Big 12 is about to cannibalize itself… TCU, Baylor, OSU and OU all play each other in the next two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/458 "2015-11-15T22:05:36Z")
Remember, kids, when the Pac-12 teams beat each other, it proves that none of them are any good. When the SEC teams beat each other, it proves that they’re all really good. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/459 "2015-11-15T23:50:01Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Remember, kids, when the Pac-12 teams beat each other, it proves that none of them are any good. When the SEC teams beat each other, it proves that they’re all really good. QFT. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/460 "2015-11-16T05:49:20Z")
The Pac-12 is about as fucked up as Rosie O’Donnell’s underwear at this point. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398.md?page=24)