# 2015 College Football Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 30, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398 "2015-08-30T16:01:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/161 "2015-09-28T20:40:02Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Stupid Ducks. Their humiliation cheapens the win of my Spartans over them. At least Michigan is looking much more solid, so by they time they play Michigan State it will count as another quality win for MSU.

It does kind of boggle the mind that the AP has Sparty (1-0 against p5 teams, 3 point home win over Oregon) ranked above Utah (2-0, 42 point road win over Oregon).

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/162 "2015-09-28T20:45:03Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> It could be worse. You could be Auburn.

Not really. Auburn’s best win is Louisville, ours is Georgia State. But how about that Marcus Mariota, huh? Three games into his career and he owns the franchise single game passing record (OK, the franchise isn’t exactly the 49ers, but still.)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/163 "2015-09-30T15:18:29Z")

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The Ninth Circuit just [upheld](http://www.law360.com/sports/articles/677977?nl_pk=f61b85fc-efd5-45a1-b5ff-2d9ed3c758f5&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sports) a lower court decision striking down the NCAA athlete pay ban.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/164 "2015-09-30T19:12:02Z")

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Continuing to pick the wound…these are the power 5 teams which, per my rating system, had a worse first month than Oregon: Boston College, Louisville, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Texas, Purdue, Oregon State (ha!), Washington (ha ha!), Washington State, and Vanderbilt. Lotta low cards in that deck.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/165 "2015-10-04T01:26:40Z")

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Sigh.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/166 "2015-10-04T02:20:59Z")

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At this point I would not be surprised if there is no SEC team with fewer than two losses at the end of the season. Lots of parity this year…

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/167 "2015-10-04T02:35:11Z")

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Heh. Tuned to ESPN to watch Oregon start its first game as an unranked team since 2009, and the Ole Miss-Fla game is still going. Fla recovered a fumble and took it down to the six inch line, and then a guy name Jordan Cronkrite punched it in from there.

The announcer said something like, “Cronkrite runs it in. Incidentally, I want to apologize to him and his family, because I earlier mispronounced his name as ‘Cronkite.’”

But then after that heartfelt apology, he insults him: “But Walter Cronkite could have scored from there.”

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/168 "2015-10-04T03:07:30Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> At this point I would not be surprised if there is no SEC team with fewer than two losses at the end of the season. Lots of parity this year…

Happens in the best of conferences. 2-loss ASU is about to beat #7 UCLA. Heck, even WSU made a game of it against #24 Cal.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/169 "2015-10-04T04:44:10Z")

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OK, this drives me nuts. Saw it first about 8 years ago, more or less, in a Washington v. ND game. Then it happened this evening in the Sun Devils-Bruins game. I think it was late in the first quarter, the UCLA quarterback takes the snap, drops back, and throws a pass out to the left. The receiver drops the pass, it is incomplete, the play is over. Except to me it looked like the receiver was _behind the passer_, it should have at the very least been a fumble, a live bad, or, if it went out of bounds, spotted where the ball went out, not back at the line of scrimmage.

Did anyone else see that play? Did the camera angle make it only appear not to be a forward pass? Or did the officials, shall we say, drop the ball on that call?

And did UCLA really suck the big one in that game, or what?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/170 "2015-10-04T06:50:27Z")

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Wow. Wild weekend in the SEC. I picked Ole Miss, Georgia, and Miss State to win. Ouch.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/171 "2015-10-04T07:25:07Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> And did UCLA really suck the big one in that game, or what?

This doesn’t seem like the game to pile on Mora due to all the defensive injuries (UCLA was missing five defensive starters tonight) but… I’m really starting to think Mora will never win the big one. Letdown losses after big wins happen like clockwork. Seems like whenever they get highly ranked it goes to the kids’ heads.

All that said, I really do think he’d be better off with a new offensive coordinator, Mazzone’s offense just doesn’t do well when it’s forced to make adjustments.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/172 "2015-10-04T07:26:52Z")

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An officiating error led to an Oklahoma State touchdown Saturday in the Cowboys’ 36-34 win over Kansas State.

> **[Officiating error leads to OK State TD vs. K-State](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/13803765/officiating-error-leads-oklahoma-state-cowboys-touchdown-win-kansas-state-wildcats)**
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> An officiating error led to an Oklahoma State touchdown Saturday in the Cowboys' 36-34 win over Kansas State.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/173 "2015-10-04T20:32:28Z")

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Read your link. Big 12 officiating crews are creating havoc this season. OK State would have lost to Texas without their screwup. _Texas_. Texas is having a really lousy season. I’m surprised there aren’t pitchforks with torches lighting the night down there.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/174 "2015-10-04T21:21:57Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> OK, this drives me nuts. Saw it first about 8 years ago, more or less, in a Washington v. ND game. Then it happened this evening in the Sun Devils-Bruins game. I think it was late in the first quarter, the UCLA quarterback takes the snap, drops back, and throws a pass out to the left. The receiver drops the pass, it is incomplete, the play is over. Except to me it looked like the receiver was _behind the passer_, it should have at the very least been a fumble, a live bad, or, if it went out of bounds, spotted where the ball went out, not back at the line of scrimmage.

Doesn’t Pac-12 have instant replay? If the ball went out of bounds or an ASU player recovered on it immediately after the whistle, then it is reviewable.

However, it is possible that, while the receiver could have been slightly behind the QB, the ball itself went forward, and that’s what determines if it’s a forward pass or a lateral.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/175 "2015-10-05T02:43:07Z")

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Would a play whistled as a incomplete (forward) pass, review-able?

I wouldn’t think so, as the play is dead after the whistle blows.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/176 "2015-10-05T15:56:13Z")

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The Irish lost a tough one in a virtual hurricane at Clemson. It sounds like cliché homerism, but I do think they were the better team. Just shot themselves in the foot one time too many.

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/177 "2015-10-05T17:11:28Z")

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_If you find yourself shooting yourself in the foot, stop shooting_ is the corollary to  
_If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging_. 🙂

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/178 "2015-10-05T17:15:32Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> The Irish lost a tough one in a virtual hurricane at Clemson. It sounds like cliché homerism, but I do think they were the better team. Just shot themselves in the foot one time too many.

Someone needs to tell Kelly he doesn’t know shit about when to go for two points. Had he kicked two PATs instead of failing twice, the game would have gone OT.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/179 "2015-10-05T17:26:18Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Would a play whistled as a incomplete (forward) pass, review-able?
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> I wouldn’t think so, as the play is dead after the whistle blows.

It is, if the pass went out of bounds (if it’s a lateral, it’s spotted where the ball crossed the sideline) or the officials determine that the defense recovered the ball “in the immediate continuing action after the pass.” In the latter case, the defense would be given the ball where they recovered it, but any advance would be ignored.

Normally, if the ball is blown dead when it shouldn’t have been, the “inadvertent whistle” rule applies - except during a legal forward pass or a punt or field goal/extra point kick (in which case the down is replayed), whoever has the ball (or had the ball last) can either replay the down or have the play end where they last had possession.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-college-football-omnibus-thread/729398/180 "2015-10-05T17:46:40Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Someone needs to tell Kelly he doesn’t know shit about when to go for two points. Had he kicked two PATs instead of failing twice, the game would have gone OT.

But the sacred chart!!! It said go for 2 and Kelly’s staff agreed. I don’t fault him for the first 2 point try. Robinson should have caught the ball.

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