# 2015 NFL Draft - On The Clock! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 30, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933 "2015-04-30T23:36:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/161 "2015-05-01T05:30:19Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > **31st Pick - Stephone Anthony - New Orleans Saints** > I don’t know much about this guy, but I do know that he’s not as good as Jimmy Graham. The real question is whether Stephone Anthony _and Max Unger_ are as good as Jimmy Graham (and whoever Seattle takes with their new 4th rounder, I suppose). Pretty boring 1st round, though. Only two trades and they were between 15/17 and 23/28, not exactly earth-shattering. No real fun surprises or reaches… I guess the Rams taking Todd Gurley was the most interesting one. My cable company dropped NFLN recently, so I had to watch it on ESPN. Even they seemed more subdued than last year (at least Gruden’s incessant MANZIEL, TAKE MANZIEL was amusing). Now that I think of it, there were no viewpoints into the ‘command rooms’ of the teams like we’ve seen in the past… not sure if that’s an NFL-exclusive thing, or what, but I kinda missed it. Mainly for this: [The Jags war room - Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/nwojNVV.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/162 "2015-05-01T05:31:41Z")
Going forward, I hope that 1) the Raiders draft nothing but linemen and DBs (does this make me the person SenorBeef hates?), and 2) Brett Hundley ends up on the Eagles where he can become New Mariota. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/163 "2015-05-01T06:29:09Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > He {Damarious Randall} was quite a ways down the positional rank for Safeties so either the Packers are smarter than the media (probably) or the Packers reached badly (let’s hope!). The Packers are already set at safety, with Morgan Burnett and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, and they are planning to use Randall more as a cornerback (a weaker position for them). Randall apparently was moved to safety at Arizona State due to it being a need for the team. Quoth Ted Thompson: “We felt fortunate that we were able to draft Damarious Randall that late,” Thompson said. “We think he’s a very versatile player. We’ll probably line him up as a corner. But in Dom’s system, those defensive backs are all over the place. It’s hard to keep up with who’s playing what.” > **[Packers improve at CB with surprising pick](https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/draft/2015/05/01/packers-improve-cb-surprising-pick/26684909/)** > > Most pundits considered Damarious Randall a safety, but that didn't deter Ted Thompson ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/164 "2015-05-01T13:27:53Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The Packers are already set at safety, with Morgan Burnett and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, and they are planning to use Randall more as a cornerback (a weaker position for them). Randall apparently was moved to safety at Arizona State due to it being a need for the team. I trust Ted Thompson; he and his staff are better at player evaluation than I could ever hope to be and his track record is pretty good. But I just watched Randall’s game tape against Oregon State and it was bad. He’s beaten in coverage, he’s getting juked by running backs, he’s shying from contact, and he’s not tackling well. There are certainly some nice spots (he’s fast enough for sure), but I was severely disappointed in the game tape. I watched the Stanford game too, and it was better. He was better in coverage, almost had an interception, was a game changer on special teams, and it’s fun watching him blitz, but he still doesn’t look like a first round talent to me. But, like I said, they know more than I do. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/165 "2015-05-01T14:50:40Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Hi everyone, the day is today! Players are walking the gold carpet a mere mile from my front door. I’m on the outside looking in having failed in my attempts to score a seat in the building to heckle the Packers fans and boo the Jets pick on behalf of the New Yorkers sitting at home. > > This is the place where we can moan and scream about picks and reaches. Haggle over the winners and losers in the trades. And eventually grade our team performances over the next three days. > > The Bucs are on the clock, anyone think that they’ll shock the world and take Mariotta or Williams here? Would send everyone in each team’s war room scrambling. > > I’m trying to figure out what the best case scenario is for my Bears - definitely Williams, but that’s not happening - maybe Mariotta, but there’s no way someone doesn’t trade up in front of the Bears if he slips past the Titans - currently I’m thinking it’s either Scherff or White. > > Let’s hear what you got! The Bears drafts have been great and the Packers poor as witnessed by the fact the Packers have had only two starting quarterbacks over the last twenty, or so, years and the Bears twelve or fifteen. As a Packer fan living in NY I have witnessed the Jets making bad pick after bad pick over the years. I kind of feel sorry for their fans. Maybe getting the draft away from MSG will be good for them. [JJ Watt pick greeted in 2011](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD--d8RWtZE) [JJ Watt playing in 2014](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCuj7a9XGo) Just goes to show the opinions of us fans are rather meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/166 "2015-05-01T15:01:40Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I made the right choice. The Bulls are curb-stomping the Bucks. Love it, that team pissed me off. > > **10th Pick - Todd Gurley - St. Louis Rams** > Another pick for me to complain about. I prefer Gordon to Gurley in this draft and when you factor in the injury history, this pick doesn’t make a ton of sense. I get that the Rams want to be a tough smash-mouth team and this fits their identity, but I’d have gone with Parker here. I hope they regret the pick. MG3 had one of the three or four best years a college football running back has ever had and Gurley sat out much of the season with injuries. Gurley is heftier and might stand up better to NFL pounding. We’ll know in two years which team, San Diego or St. Louis made the better pick. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/167 "2015-05-01T15:29:13Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I trust Ted Thompson; he and his staff are better at player evaluation than I could ever hope to be and his track record is pretty good. > > But I just watched Randall’s game tape against Oregon State and it was bad. He’s beaten in coverage, he’s getting juked by running backs, he’s shying from contact, and he’s not tackling well. There are certainly some nice spots (he’s fast enough for sure), but I was severely disappointed in the game tape. > > I watched the Stanford game too, and it was better. He was better in coverage, almost had an interception, was a game changer on special teams, and it’s fun watching him blitz, but he still doesn’t look like a first round talent to me. But, like I said, they know more than I do. Signs point to him being their Nickel. Probably the best fit for him since it’ll keep him out of the box and he probably won’t be matched up with big physical leapers on the outside. I hope he’s a turd, we’ll see. He’s definitely not prototypical and isn’t that versatile, but in a dismal draft for secondary players getting a starting Nickelback would be a win. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/168 "2015-05-01T16:36:24Z")
Still fuming from seeing the 49ers take a surefire bust, but it’s time to move on. My wish list for today: [ol] [li]Owamagbe Odighizuwa, EDGE, UCLA[/li][li]Randy Gregory, EDGE, Nebraska[/li][li]Eric Rowe, CB, Utah[/li][li]Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota[/li][li]Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Mississippi, State[/li][li]Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn[/li][li]Dezmin Lewis, WR, Central Arkansas[/li][li]Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State[/li][li]Ali Marpet, G, Hobart[/li][li]Lynden Trail, EDGE, Norfolk State[/li][li]T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh[/li][li]Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/169 "2015-05-01T21:00:32Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Still fuming from seeing the 49ers take a surefire bust, but it’s time to move on. My wish list for today: > > [ol] > [li]Owamagbe Odighizuwa, EDGE, UCLA[/li][li]Randy Gregory, EDGE, Nebraska[/li][li]Eric Rowe, CB, Utah[/li][li]Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota[/li][li]Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Mississippi, State[/li][li]Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn[/li][li]Dezmin Lewis, WR, Central Arkansas[/li][li]Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State[/li][li]Ali Marpet, G, Hobart[/li][li]Lynden Trail, EDGE, Norfolk State[/li][li]T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh[/li][li]Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami[/li][/ol] You want a pony and 1000 beautiful nyphomaniacs too? Leave some players for the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/170 "2015-05-01T22:02:19Z")
Finally get to post! > [@Omniscient](#): > > **1st Pick - Jameis Winston - Tampa Bay Buccaneers** > I’m going to go on record saying this pick is going to be an unmitigated disaster. Lovie and Jameis are about the worst recipe I can imagine for a bad franchise. Might not be Jamarcus bad…but it could be close. I agree, and said so in the thread preceeding this one. I just think he is immature and he’s never experienced failure on the football field. The first time he gets benched, or realizes that the NFL is a different beast and 4th qtr comebacks aren’t par for the course against most NFL teams (vs mid-tier ACC teams), I think he implodes. > [@JSexton](#): > > He also pronounced Marcus’s last name as Marioto. Guy cannot get anything right. This was just brutal. > [@Omniscient](#): > > Pretty crazy that La’el Collins was potentially a 1st round pick and is now potentially a murder suspect. Still unclear if he’s even a person of interest or just a possible witness, but this is a new one for the Draft. This fascinates me. Everyone says he isn’t a suspect, but I read today that he may not be drafted AT ALL! His agent apparently asked the league to let him enter the supplemental draft so this could sort itself out, and the NFL said no. If he is truly innocent, this has cost him untold millions. But something doesn’t fit with the “not even a suspect” tag-line. > [@Omniscient](#): > > **10th Pick - Todd Gurley - St. Louis Rams** > Another pick for me to complain about. I prefer Gordon to Gurley in this draft and when you factor in the injury history, this pick doesn’t make a ton of sense. I get that the Rams want to be a tough smash-mouth team and this fits their identity, but I’d have gone with Parker here. Thought this was too high, but if healthy and if he has a line, he could be a great back. But too many ifs here, and I wouldn’t have taken him as the first RB. > [@Omniscient](#): > > **12th Pick - Danny Shelton - Cleveland Browns** > Ha ha. Everyone had him slated for the Bears so I did a lot of research and I did not like what I saw. He’s a fat slob and the most compelling fact I saw was that he had 9 sacks last year but 6 came in weeks 1 and 2 against Hawaii and Eastern Washington. He basically got shut out in Pac-10 play. Typical Browns pick. They really needed a WR and should have grabbed Parker or Strong. Interesting… He was a guy I really liked, but I didn’t do much research on him… Given his productivity at the beginning of the year against lesser opponents, I agree with you that he may not be as great as I thought. I didn’t realize that. > [@Omniscient](#): > > **22nd Pick - Bud Dupree - Pittsburgh Steelers** > Think this is a awesome pick. Hate to see it for these scumbags. Lots of people thought he’d end up being a top 10 guy so having him at 22 on paper is a steal. I don’t know his game that well, but the traditional Steelers scheme seems like a great fit for a guy that can go get it. We’ll see if the new system needs a guy a little more polished or not. Dupree is certainly a bit raw. Not happy with this pick. For the 3rd straight year, Colbert takes a LB in the first. He is to LB’s what Matt Millen was to WR’s in Detroit. Right now, Steeler fans are thrilled because he wasn’t supposed to be here, but this is the 3rd straight year I’ve heard the same thing after their 1st pick. Jarvis Jones is a bust, and Shazier has yet to see any real time… So far, he’s made of glass. I want to know why he slid so far. If he tuens out to be great, well, great! But Colbert has shown a poor ability to judge defensive talent, especially in the draft and FA signings. FTR, i wanted a CB. They have to take CB the next two picks. Their secondary is awful. > [@Omniscient](#): > > **25th Pick - Breshad Perriman - Baltimore Ravens** > There’s a bunch of good WRs in this draft. Didn’t like Perriman in the Combine, looked like he fought the ball every time in drills. Great size and speed, but those hands will drive Flacco insane. I was expecting the Ravens to grab Gregory here since a troubled defensive guy falling into the Ravens laps just makes too much sense. Didn’t understand this pick. He drops a lot of passes. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/171 "2015-05-01T22:13:15Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > You want a pony and 1000 beautiful nyphomaniacs too? Leave some players for the rest of us. As long as I get one of those guys I’ll be happy. Maybe even happy enough to charitably forget an earlier bad draft pick. If I get over of those top three, the 49ers will have one 1st Rounder selected with their first two picks. Our they’ll pick Dorial Green-Beckham, the rest of the fanbase will exalt while I scrounge around my desk to gather enough pieces of paper to toss up in frustration. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/172 "2015-05-01T22:13:50Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > **25th Pick - Shaq Thomson - Carolina Panthers** > So…a player without a position in the first round. Ugly. This is almost as dumb as signing 4 running backs to big contracts at the same tiime. > [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Ugh. There was a lot of talk around here about him the last week. I don’t get it, not at 25. I am coming around on this pick a little. As a LB next to Kuechly and Davis. On Special Teams. Maybe even occasionally on offense. Guy’s a good football player, if not concrete at one position. There was no viable LT at that spot. I think they can get a speed WR in 2nd round. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/173 "2015-05-01T22:29:54Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I agree, and said so in the thread preceeding this one. I just think he is immature and he’s never experienced failure on the football field. The first time he gets benched, or realizes that the NFL is a different beast and 4th qtr comebacks aren’t par for the course against most NFL teams (vs mid-tier ACC teams), I think he implodes. Just to point it out, he HAS experienced failure on the football field — and very embarrassing failure, in fact. (In that same game, his coach threatened him with benching.) And wouldn’t it be nice to be so rich that you don’t have to bother learning the last name of one of your consensus top two most in-demand prospects in your league? ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/174 "2015-05-01T23:14:11Z")
Round 2 starts with a trade and the Giants get a Landon Collins. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/175 "2015-05-01T23:21:34Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Just to point it out, he HAS experienced failure on the football field — and very embarrassing failure, in fact. (In that same game, his coach threatened him with benching.) This isn’t exactly the type of failure I am talking about. And he WASN’T benched. I want to see how he reacts if he is benched after throwing his 3rd pick in a half. If he can’t complete 50% of his passes and is booed by the home fans… If he can’t outrun NFL defenders like he could in college. He has NEVER been consequenced for bad behavior. He ALWAYS has an excuse or someone is willing to jump in and defend him. I have seen this movie before. Last year, in fact. Johnny Football. The fact is, and history bears it out, that these guys rarely change from what they are. If I am wrong, good for TB. But he is just too close to home for me to think he will have any chance. > [@Leaper](#): > > And wouldn’t it be nice to be so rich that you don’t have to bother learning the last name of one of your consensus top two most in-demand prospects in your league? Indeed! Doesn’t know the kid’s name, doesn’t care to know the kid’s name! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/176 "2015-05-01T23:46:33Z")
Well it doesn’t look like Gregory or Strong are the steals that a lot of mocks think they are. One of them may fall to the Browns at 43. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/177 "2015-05-01T23:56:55Z")
Panthers trade up! Let’s see who they pick here. Fisher? Dorsett? ETA: Funchess?? ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/178 "2015-05-02T00:02:37Z")
Why trade up to that spot for him? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/179 "2015-05-02T00:03:22Z")
Well that’s unfortunate. Browns traded back. Seems like Strong/Gregory would’ve been steals here. I was happy to see so many tempting players fall to their pick, and then they jumped back from it. They must have someone in particular in mind. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933/180 "2015-05-02T00:18:59Z")
49ers on the clock. Still a bunch of “my” guys available. Please be Odighizuwa or Gregory. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2015-nfl-draft-on-the-clock/718933.md?page=10)