# 2016 Bernie Sanders (D-VT) campaign for POTUS thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 28, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754 "2015-04-28T22:40:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/221 "2015-07-10T12:26:00Z")
How’d you like that interview she finally did? Brutal. She has certainly not gotten better in that respect. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/222 "2015-07-10T12:36:20Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > How’d you like that interview she finally did? It was fine. No bombshells and no surprises, but fine. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/223 "2015-07-10T12:40:05Z")
I guess if you don’t expect authenticity, honesty, or direct answers to questions… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/224 "2015-07-10T12:43:26Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I guess if you don’t expect authenticity, honesty, or direct answers to questions… I expected Hillary Clinton. Did you expect someone else? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/225 "2015-07-10T12:46:19Z")
Best answer ever. Yes, we definitely saw Hillary in all her glory in that interview. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/226 "2015-07-10T12:49:40Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Best answer ever. Yes, we definitely saw Hillary in all her glory in that interview. What’s the “gotcha” here? Hillary was Hillary. Everyone knows who she is, and everyone knows what she’s like on TV and in interviews. And she’s leading big in the polls, early as it is. These interviews won’t affect anyone’s opinion of her unless they just landed from another planet that didn’t get American radio and TV. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/227 "2015-07-10T12:53:44Z")
Frankly Hillary could order coffee and **adaher** would accuse her of avoiding direct answers to the waiter’s questions. Remember: form conclusion first, then twist universe to fit conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/228 "2015-07-10T12:54:31Z")
Well, he honesty numbers can’t get much lower, or her perception of being a fake. But interviews like that at least keep people reminded how dishonest and fake she is. I imagine she’ll practice media avoidance for awhile again. That interview was Palin bad. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/229 "2015-07-10T12:59:00Z")
[http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm](http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm) Fav-unfav- 46-50 Inspires confidence-49-50 Cares about people like me-47-52 Is honest- 42-57 If her goal was to raise those numbers, she failed. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/230 "2015-07-10T13:00:27Z")
Freefall! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/231 "2015-07-10T13:00:41Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That interview was Palin bad. God you’re adorable. As much as I want you to change the way you post, assertions like this just make me want you to stay the same forever. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/232 "2015-07-10T13:01:58Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > [Political Figures: Hillary Clinton](http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm) > > Fav-unfav- 46-50 > Inspires confidence-49-50 > Cares about people like me-47-52 > Is honest- 42-57 > > If her goal was to raise those numbers, she failed. Her goal is to win the Presidency, and those numbers don’t seem to have much to do with her big lead in the polls right now. The best strategy is to attack the Republicans, while at the same time advocating for Democratic policies. But mainly attacking Republicans. Negative politics work, and the Republicans are very attackable. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/233 "2015-07-10T13:10:10Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > 538 is reporting that Sanders could actually win Iowa and New Hampshire…and nowhere else. Any observation that begins with, or even implies “If the election were being held today …” can and should be immediately dismissed. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/234 "2015-07-10T14:03:05Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Any observation that begins with, or even implies “If the election were being held today …” can and should be immediately dismissed. Well, 538 often differentiates between the way the numbers are now and the way they’re likely to be on election day, so it’s important to label them to try to keep people from conflating the two. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/235 "2015-07-10T14:04:16Z")
If the election were held today, Clinton would win IA and NH handily. So I’m not sure what Elvis is complaining about. No one is saying Sanders would win if the election was held today. But a few months from now, since he hasn’t peaked yet, that could change. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/236 "2015-07-10T16:28:49Z")
Hillary WOULD be in trouble if the Democrats had a sane alternative, but she doesn’t. So far, the media haven’t dared portray Sanders as the fruitcake they all know he is (he makes Michelle Bachman and Todd Akin look sane), but eventually, when it’s time to play hardball, the Clintons will crush him. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/237 "2015-07-10T16:31:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Frankly Hillary could order coffee and **adaher** would accuse her of avoiding direct answers to the waiter’s questions. Remember: form conclusion first, then twist universe to fit conclusion. And have you seen the way she eats crackers? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/238 "2015-07-10T16:35:05Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Hillary WOULD be in trouble if the Democrats had a sane alternative, but she doesn’t. So far, the media haven’t dared portray Sanders as the fruitcake they all know he is (he makes Michelle Bachman and Todd Akin look sane), but eventually, when it’s time to play hardball, the Clintons will crush him. Adaher said Sanders had insane positions but refused to answer when twice asked to name some. Care to elaborate on what makes Sanders a “fruitcake?” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/239 "2015-07-10T17:32:46Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Hillary WOULD be in trouble if the Democrats had a sane alternative, but she doesn’t. So far, the media haven’t dared portray Sanders as the fruitcake they all know he is (he makes Michelle Bachman and Todd Akin look sane), but eventually, when it’s time to play hardball, the Clintons will crush him. Nothing Sanders has done or said since he announced (nor before, AFAIK) makes him look crazy. What statements in particular are you thinking of? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/240 "2015-07-10T18:20:57Z")
You want nuttery? > **[Bernie Sanders’s Revolutionary Roots Were Nurtured in ’60s Vermont (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/04/us/politics/bernie-sanderss-revolutionary-roots-were-nurtured-in-60s-vermont.html?_r=0)** > > Long before Mr. Sanders was a presidential candidate, he went to Burlington, where he supported himself with odd jobs and planned to remake the world. Scan for “cervical.” Bernie Sanders is the kind of fruitcake every free newsweekly has on staff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=13)