# 2016 Bernie Sanders (D-VT) campaign for POTUS thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 28, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754 "2015-04-28T22:40:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1281 "2016-05-13T18:19:21Z")
Now Bernheads are [screaming obscenities at children](http://thedailybanter.com/2016/05/sanders-shout-obscenities-clinton-rally/). But we on the Hillary side are the meanies. Okay then. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1282 "2016-05-13T18:45:28Z")
**Slacker** … what are you trying to accomplish at this point? Yes, some of Sanders’ supporters are way way out of bounds. _Most_ however understand that Clinton is going to be the nominee with some interested in trying to “force” her to move as far to their desired positions as possible. Hence they want him to continue and do whatever it takes to get the most power at the convention he can have. _Of course_ I personally think that the need for a while now has been to work toward unification, circling the wagons, and preparing for the general election battle, and that it is regrettable that Sanders is forcing her to use up resources that could be used in the general. I think it will end up giving him less influence not more. But beating up on the broad group of Sander supporters by pointing out the craziness and ugliness of a few and calling the whole group names is supposed to accomplish what? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1283 "2016-05-13T18:51:17Z")
I don’t see my posts as needing to have a specific aim as far as trying to “accomplish” anything except for expressing what I think or feel about something. But what names did I call Bernie’s supporters? If you mean “Bernheads”, that is a positive nickname they gave themselves. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1284 "2016-05-13T22:12:11Z")
Not all of Bernie fans are unreasonable, (and I don’t think Bernie is unreasonable either). Some of his supporters are assholes, but a lot of them are young. At least he’s getting the kids engaged. Hillary supporters I’ve met, (other than posters here who are name calling), seem perfectly reasonable to me. My parents PROSPERED through Bill’s presidency. They actually voted for Bernie, however they were sold on, and excited for, Hillary before they got to know Sanders. Most of their friends voted for Hillary, and as far as I know, they all still like each other. I don’t think Hillary would make a bad president, though I am worried about Iraq and Syria. I just don’t think she has the same integrity as Sanders. Sanders, for the most part, seemed to have been on the right side of history since he was young. We grew into a country that made him a formidable opponent. I just respect that. I believe that Sanders made Hillary a better candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1285 "2016-05-13T22:50:50Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Sanders, for the most part, seemed to have been on the right side of history since he was young. We grew into a country that made him a formidable opponent. I just respect that. Praising repressive, violent regimes is being ‘on the right side of history?’ ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1286 "2016-05-13T23:04:19Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Praising repressive, violent regimes is being ‘on the right side of history?’ I said “for the most part” because, you know what? He’s not perfect. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1287 "2016-05-13T23:22:44Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Praising repressive, violent regimes is being ‘on the right side of history?’ [shrug] Both major parties were guilty of that throughout the Cold War. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1288 "2016-05-14T06:30:39Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Yes, it’s a solid center-left argument. But to complain that taxpayers have to foot the cost of their Medicaid, because Walmart’s wages are too low, implies that Walmart should be paying for their medical care (through higher wages which can be used to buy it on the private market; or if we’re charitable in our interpretation, maybe through a medical benefit that comes with the job), \*not \*taxpayers. When we know he actually wants \*everyone’s \*medical care to be paid for by taxpayers. Do you actually think that a living wage is incompatible with socialized medicine? Anyway, Walmart is getting away with abusively low pay because we have Medicaid for some. Companies that don’t pay their workers like crap are expected to pay quite a bit more, _because their employees don’t qualify for Medicaid._ Sanders is right that we should have something like Medicaid for all. He is also right to point out that Walmart is getting away with something employers that play by the existing rules of the social contract don’t and can’t. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1289 "2016-05-16T07:10:27Z")
More childish antics from the Bernie Bros. If Bernie had any morals and was a team player, he’d strongly denounce these tactics, rather than using weasel words. Maybe he’s too busy helping his wife find their tax returns. [http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/security-concerns-end-nevada-democrats-convention-39134128](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/security-concerns-end-nevada-democrats-convention-39134128) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1290 "2016-05-16T07:25:13Z")
Is that the incident that I’ve seen some Sanders supporters characterizing as an attempt to suppress their votes? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1291 "2016-05-17T13:39:27Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Is that the incident that I’ve seen some Sanders supporters characterizing as an attempt to suppress their votes? Yes, [but they are full of shit.](http://wonkette.com/601848/bernie-sanders-fans-take-massive-dump-on-nevada-democratic-convention-floor) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1292 "2016-05-17T17:42:52Z")
Burlington College to close. Jane Sanders has shown herself to be just as despicable and corrupt as Bernie is. > **[Analysis | The Daily 202: Failure of Burlington College is a big problem for...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/05/17/daily-202-failure-of-burlington-college-is-a-big-problem-for-bernie-and-jane-sanders/573a388c981b92a22d837b46/)** > > School blames land deal made by senator’s wife as it goes belly up From the article: …While Sanders has inspired millions of young supporters with his promise to eliminate college debt, his wife’s decision to hike tuition in order to pay for a costly campus expansion—a big factor in the rise of college tuition throughout the country—casts Bernie’s hopeful policy proposals in a more complicated light… I’m sure there is a lot of interesting data in the Sanders tax returns related to Burlington College. Also, …Jane has also profited off Bernie’s campaigns: She received $91,020 between 2002 and 2004 for “consultation” and to negotiate the purchase of television and radio time-slots for Sanders’ advertisements, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported in 2006… If Sanders wins the two contests today, then I think it’s time for Clinton surrogates to attack Bernie. The Bernie Bros are getting more obnoxious by the day and it’s time to destroy Bernie politically. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1293 "2016-05-17T18:46:36Z")
Wow. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1294 "2016-05-17T18:54:11Z")
$91,000 for three years of consulting is outrageous to you? Really? She should have just given speeches to businesses that helped destroy our economy. The going rate for that is considerably more than that. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1295 "2016-05-17T19:04:32Z")
Bora Bora is looking better and better. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1296 "2016-05-17T19:04:48Z")
That’s school closing is a bombshell. However, I’m a little less confident about the Washington Post reporting that ten years ago the Pittsburgh Tribune found out fishy stuff about the Vermont Senator’s wife’s campaign compensation. > [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > $91,000 for three years of consulting is outrageous to you? Really? > > She should have just given speeches to businesses that helped destroy our economy. The going rate for that is considerably more than that. If you read the article they say that 60k of that was “pass through” that actually went towards ad purchasing. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1297 "2016-05-17T19:10:37Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > $91,000 for three years of consulting is outrageous to you? Really? > > She should have just given speeches to businesses that helped destroy our economy. The going rate for that is considerably more than that. A woman with a degree from a diploma mill being paid $91,000 for ‘consulting’ in a tiny state like Vermont where Bernie faced no serious challenges, yes that looks bad. He funneled campaign contributions to his wife. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1298 "2016-05-17T19:14:10Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > A woman with a degree from a diploma mill being paid $91,000 for ‘consulting’ in a tiny state like Vermont where Bernie faced no serious challenges, yes that looks bad. He funneled campaign contributions to his wife. Smells like a bullshit attack, frankly. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1299 "2016-05-17T19:15:05Z")
30 grand a year is not a lot, even in Vermont. Especially when 60 grand of it went directly to the purchase of ads. Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1300 "2016-05-17T19:32:14Z")
Sorry I should have been clearer, you have to actually go to the Pittsburgh Tribune article cited by the WP to get: > [@](#): > > Approximately $61,000 of that was “pass-through” money that was used to pay media outlets for advertising time, Jane O’Meara Sanders said in an interview. The rest, about $30,000, she kept as payment for her services, she said From “[A socialist in the Senate](http://triblive.com/mobile/1371968-81/dateline-dc-sanders-bernie-percent-senate-socialist-amendment-campaign-intelligence)”, which is clearly a bit of a hit piece as it begins: > [@](#): > > History buffs argue that P.T. Barnum, America’s great promoter from the late 1800s, never said, “There is a sucker born every minute.” No matter. With the voters showing the truth of that adage, there is no reason to argue – just accept. > > It did not take long to select just one political race to demonstrate a near criminal stupidity in the popular selection of political leaders. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=66)