# 2016 Bernie Sanders (D-VT) campaign for POTUS thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 28, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754 "2015-04-28T22:40:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 76
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1501 "2016-05-24T22:35:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Again with the imaginary dog whistling. :rolleyes: Reagan talking about “welfare queens” and “strapping young bucks” is not something the press just imagined. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1502 "2016-05-24T23:18:50Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Now the geriatric candidate wants a recount in Kentucky. Like it would make a difference, other than costing the taxpayers. I’m really disliking this guy more and more the longer this goes on. > > [http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/24/politics/bernie-sanders-kentucky-re-canvass/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/24/politics/bernie-sanders-kentucky-re-canvass/index.html) The only thing that surprised me about this is that they waited until the last possible moment to call for it. Maybe they were trying to give the impression that it was a difficult decision. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1503 "2016-05-24T23:38:54Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Reagan talking about “welfare queens” and “strapping young bucks” is not something the press just imagined. Nor was his [States Rights speech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan%27s_Neshoba_County_Fair_%22states%27_rights%22_speech) at the town where Goodman, Chaney, and Schwerner were killed. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1504 "2016-05-25T00:11:55Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Reagan talking about “welfare queens” and “strapping young bucks” is not something the press just imagined. Is there any actual video of welfare queens strapping young bucks? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1505 "2016-05-25T00:31:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Is there any actual video of welfare queens strapping young bucks? Gotta be. Rule 34. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1506 "2016-05-25T00:34:03Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Nope. You’ve missed the point, which was that Sanders supporters were doing things that helped the GOP. And of course the implicit further point was that _maybe they should stop doing that_. No, I got your point. You seemed to have missed **Fuzzy\_wuzzy** ’s point. The truth remains that any wrongs by Democrats at their convention will be seized by Republicans as a sign of the apocalypse, and vice versa. That doesn’t mean that the Democrats should hand the Republicans ammunition. I agree that Bernie’s actions are not good for the party. He’s stepped beyond advocating for more liberal progressive policies to criticizing the Democratic party as corrupt. I agree Bernie should do more to calm his supporters down, to tell them to knock off the obstructionism and get informed as they’re getting involved. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1507 "2016-05-25T06:01:56Z")
back to Bernie Sanders: Here are some of his friend and DNC appointee Cornel West’s greatest hits: [QUOTE=Cornel West] “Let us not be deceived — Nixon, Bush, Obama, they’re war criminals,” “(Obama is a) a Rockefeller Republican in Blackface” “I would say the first black president has become the first n\*\*gerized black president” “Obama Is A Global George Zimmerman” [/QUOTE] I’m no huge Obama fan, but West went too far and is a loony toon. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1508 "2016-05-27T19:54:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > I forget who it was on the board that originally said it, but I think it may be true: Bernie sees himself as Robespierre, and wants to lead the Next American Revolution. > [@SlackerInc](#): > > That was me! It sure looks fitting these days. It also actually looks like a good idea these days – even when we take Robespierre, Bonaparte, etc., into account. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1509 "2016-05-27T19:57:11Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > Sullivan, in [this essay](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html). Mike Lofgren: [Andrew Sullivan is blind: It’s elitists who helped give rise to America’s neo-fascist movement.](http://www.salon.com/2016/05/27/andrew_sullivan_is_blind_its_elitists_who_gave_rise_to_trumpism_partner/) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1510 "2016-05-28T14:35:17Z")
The Bernmeister was on Bill Maher last night. Standing ovation, natch. It will be pretty funny if he actually wins CA. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1511 "2016-05-28T15:52:22Z")
[Bernie’s team is crying foul again.](http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-convention-allies-223685?cmpid=sf) He’s crying “Victim!” so much these days, it’s hard to differentiate between him and a Republican. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1512 "2016-05-28T16:33:12Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Bernie’s team is crying foul again.](http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-convention-allies-223685?cmpid=sf) He’s crying “Victim!” so much these days, it’s hard to differentiate between him and a Republican. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton keeps giving both Bernie Sanders and Republicans ammunition. I’m obviously not a real Bernie Bro but you’d have to be delusional not to acknowledge that the last week has been a brutal one for Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1513 "2016-05-28T16:39:50Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > On the other hand, Hillary Clinton keeps giving both Bernie Sanders and Republicans ammunition. I’m obviously not a real Bernie Bro but you’d have to be delusional not to acknowledge that the last week has been a brutal one for Hillary. The difference is, Hillary doesn’t cry “Wah, wah, wah, they’re being mean to me.” She soldiers on. Trump blames mean judges and Mexicans and everyone under the sun for his misfortunes, and then calls people names. Bernie blames everyone in the party who doesn’t fall in line behind him for his lack of votes and delegates. Both seem to be basing their campaigns on victimization, a perceived assault on their nobility. And I’ve said this before, but I like Bernie. He was my candidate at first. We’re cut from the same cloth when it comes to policy. But enough already, he’s going to start doing more damage to both short-term and long-term prospects. It’s hard to respect a whiner. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1514 "2016-05-28T16:52:08Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The Bernmeister was on Bill Maher last night. Standing ovation, natch. It will be pretty funny if he actually wins CA. I think he could do it. He was already closing in on Hillary before the State Department’s Inspector General report came out, and the release of its findings couldn’t have come at a worse time. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1515 "2016-05-28T18:09:37Z")
Bernie hasn’t won a diverse state yet and there’s no reason to think he’ll start now when he’s all but mathematically eliminated ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1516 "2016-05-28T18:41:47Z")
Those unfair establishment types are at it again. Bernie wants to oust Barney Sanders from the rules committee and Dannel Malloy from the rules committee because they’re Hillary supporters (duh): [http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-chairs-platform/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-chairs-platform/index.html) I can’t wait to hear Barney’s response. The DNC and Hillary’s campaign will probably try to muzzle him, but I’m not sure he’s the type of guy to give in to that pressure. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1517 "2016-05-28T18:56:45Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Those unfair establishment types are at it again. Bernie wants to oust Barney Sanders from the rules committee and Dannel Malloy from the rules committee because they’re Hillary supporters (duh): > > [http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-chairs-platform/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-chairs-platform/index.html) > > I can’t wait to hear Barney’s response. The DNC and Hillary’s campaign will probably try to muzzle him, but I’m not sure he’s the type of guy to give in to that pressure. You mean Barney Frank and I hope he lays into Sanders. Barney Frank hasn’t liked Bernie since Bernie first became a Representative. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1518 "2016-05-28T19:15:22Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Bernie hasn’t won a diverse state yet and there’s no reason to think he’ll start now when he’s all but mathematically eliminated It’s true that Sanders has struggled with African American voters and will probably continue to do so. However, he is increasingly competitive with other minority groups, including Latinos. Hillary’s dominance on April 26th should have slammed the door shut on Sanders’ chances. However, he didn’t stop campaigning and competing for democratic votes, whereas Hillary pretty much did. That’s a decision might come back to haunt her. It’s even worse when you consider that she’s not dominating Trump in the polls the way that everyone had assumed that she would. And it’s even worse when that email scandal just keeps getting dragged out. I’ve been as critical of Bernie as anyone, but I think that some of the questions about Hillary’s occasional lapses in judgment are probably fair. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1519 "2016-05-28T19:20:02Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > You mean Barney Frank and I hope he lays into Sanders. … Won’t do any good, though. The Sanders fans will dismiss whatever Frank might say as “the Establishment trying to derail the Revolution,” and Sanders himself has clearly joined the ranks of the Deluded Self-Righteous (of whom Ralph Nader is King). At times I entertain an _It’s a Wonderful Life_-style fantasy, in which angel-in-training Eugene Debs takes Bernie by the hand and shows him the post-apocalyptic world created by President Trump–and brings home to him the fact that he is responsible for Trump’s election victory in November 2016. But the reality, in all likelihood, is that Sanders is so deeply sunken into motivated reasoning and confirmation bias that even his hero Debs couldn’t get through to him. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1520 "2016-05-28T19:20:45Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > You mean Barney Frank and I hope he lays into Sanders. Doh right…crossed wires. 😃 ETA: twice, actually; Bernie wants Malloy off the platform committee, not the rules committee. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=75) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=77)