# 2016 Bernie Sanders (D-VT) campaign for POTUS thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 28, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754 "2015-04-28T22:40:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1601 "2016-06-07T17:18:35Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > She was raised by an old-time socialist (my grandfather, with whom I spent a lot of time until he died in his nineties, when I was well into my twenties) who participated in general strikes and such way back in the day. [General strike](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_strike). Very rare in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1602 "2016-06-07T17:29:43Z")
> **[Minneapolis general strike of 1934](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_general_strike_of_1934)** > > Government of Minnesota > City of Minneapolis > Communist League of America > Floyd B. OlsonMike Johannes ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1603 "2016-06-07T18:29:05Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > That made me laugh. > > My father was an anthropology professor who had more books by Marx on his shelf than most people would guess even exist. He was fond of communes, hung out with black radicals in the '70s, literally ate sprouts daily, and dreamed of a society incorporated along the lines of B.F. Skinner’s _Walden Two_. > > My mother is a little less radical, perhaps. She was raised by an old-time socialist (my grandfather, with whom I spent a lot of time until he died in his nineties, when I was well into my twenties) who participated in general strikes and such way back in the day. A professor of sociology and lifelong Unitarian, she caucused for Jesse Jackson in '84 and '88, voted for Nader multiple times starting in '96 (when few people even knew he was running), and is a firebreathing Bernie supporter now. Here is an excerpt of an email she sent many of us in the family (including a few like me who support Hillary) just a few days ago: Now, I don’t think you should be constantly quoting Zizek and I’m not even upset that you support Hillary Clinton but if you what you say is true it’s even more of a shame you say classist bullshit like: > [@Why do liberals hate suburbs?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-liberals-hate-suburbs/664965/89): > > **MadMonk’s** snerk about the Olive Garden is on point. Let’s face it: part of the enjoyment of being a liberal is to sneer at people who dine in such places, shop at strip malls, etc. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1604 "2016-06-07T18:48:31Z")
Link? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1605 "2016-06-07T22:35:54Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I am a Texan, and you can’t get more American than that! Until secession, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1606 "2016-06-07T22:51:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And not only am I American, I am a Texan, and you can’t get more American than that! well there’s Virginia, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts , New Jersey, Georgia, Connecticut, Maryland, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Delaware, New York, North Carolina, and Rhode Island. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1607 "2016-06-08T05:08:29Z")
> **[Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041)** > > For better and for worse, Sanders made all the big decisions. Politico has already published the first post-mortem of the Sander’s campaign, before California is even called. “Top Sanders aides admit that it’s been weeks, if not months, since they themselves realized he wasn’t going to be win, and they’ve been operating with a Trump’s-got-no-real-shot safety net. They debate whether Sanders’ role in the fall should be a full vote-for-Clinton campaign, or whether he should just campaign hard against Trump without signing up to do much for her directly.” ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1608 "2016-06-08T05:09:46Z")
Was about to post this in another thread when I saw JohnT’s post. Those of us who thought it stopped being about a movement and started being about Bernie himself? [We were right](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041): > [@](#): > > There’s no strategist pulling the strings, and no collection of burn-it-all-down aides egging him on. At the heart of the rage against Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, the campaign aides closest to him say, is Bernie Sanders. > > It was the Vermont senator who personally rewrote his campaign manager’s shorter statement after the chaos at the Nevada state party convention and blamed the political establishment for inciting the violence. > > […] > > Sanders is himself filled with resentment, on edge, feeling like he gets no respect – all while holding on in his head to the enticing but remote chance that Clinton may be indicted before the convention > > […] > > Convinced as Sanders is that he’s realizing his lifelong dream of being the catalyst for remaking American politics—aides say he takes credit for a Harvard Kennedy School study in April showing young people getting more liberal, and he takes personal offense every time Clinton just dismisses the possibility of picking him as her running mate—his guiding principle under attack has basically boiled down to a feeling that multiple aides sum up as: “Screw me? No, screw you.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1609 "2016-06-08T05:28:33Z")
I was trying to stay awake for his speech, but they’re saying he is running late because of him hastily rewriting his speech, I mean, because of traffic. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1610 "2016-06-08T05:42:42Z")
Well, just got on stage. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1611 "2016-06-08T05:49:53Z")
Sounds like a concession speech… ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1612 "2016-06-08T05:50:03Z")
He hasn’t said anything concrete, but I’m hearing a bunch of wrapping-up and not a lot of fighting on. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1613 "2016-06-08T05:51:11Z")
“…we will not allow Donald Trump to become President.” I think that pretty much puts any thoughts of an independent run to bed. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1614 "2016-06-08T05:54:51Z")
Started sounding like a concession speech, but now…“We will do” everything on his particular agenda. “Real change never occurs from the top on down…” - well, Mr. Sanders, start building that movement at the bottom, not the top. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1615 "2016-06-08T05:56:27Z")
“Next Tuesday we continue the fight…” Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1616 "2016-06-08T05:56:58Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > “Real change never occurs from the top on down…” Now he tells us! ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1617 "2016-06-08T05:57:05Z")
“Next Tuesday, we continue the fight in the last primary in Washington DC.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1618 "2016-06-08T05:57:28Z")
Yawn. Another week to swat at this mosquito. Well, Clinton didn’t concede at this point in 2008 either. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1619 "2016-06-08T05:58:10Z")
_sigh_ Will you stop once you lose in Philadelphia? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1620 "2016-06-08T06:07:07Z")
Wow. That was a surprise. At least we know he can do the arithmetic… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=80) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=82)