# 2016 Bernie Sanders (D-VT) campaign for POTUS thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 28, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754 "2015-04-28T22:40:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 90
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1781 "2016-06-23T22:22:20Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Presumably that article was the excuse. But again, no, he did not say it “in response to a comment where he was asked what he thought about” what she said; he brought it up unprompted. And in fact the article had no quote of her saying he was “quote unquote, not qualified to be president.” He made that quote up. (The actual interview was the interviewer trying hard to get her to say he was not qualified, after his flubbed interview in which he appeared to be lacking any meat to his plans, and her refusing to do so.) > > Really a minor point by now, just a clarification of something inaccurately stated. The Washington Post stirred this up and got to have it both ways: [http://fair.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/WPostQualified.jpg](http://fair.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/WPostQualified.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1782 "2016-06-24T11:38:31Z")
Bernie will vote for Hillary. Good. It’s time to start getting everyone on board. The EU referendum should be a wake up call to the Democrats that a madman could be elected president. > **[Sanders says he will vote for Clinton](https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284748-sanders-says-he-will-vote-for-clinton/)** > > The statement was an apparent acknowledgement that Clinton will win the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1783 "2016-06-24T13:58:57Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Bernie will vote for Hillary. Good. It’s time to start getting everyone on board. The EU referendum should be a wake up call to the Democrats that a madman could be elected president. > [http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284748-sanders-says-he-will-vote-for-clinton](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284748-sanders-says-he-will-vote-for-clinton) I think Brexit is good for Hillary. Voters will seek stability, not recklessness. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1784 "2016-06-24T15:01:41Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I think Brexit is good for Hillary. Voters will seek stability, not recklessness. I think it could go the other way - the stock market will take a tumble - it was betting on the UK staying in. How quickly we recover from that tumble will drive our election. If that tumble turns to panic, and triggers job loss, the Democrats will lose the White House. Most Americans aren’t going to see that the tumble has nothing to do with U.S. politics - its rare that people understand all the variables at play - or care - they just care that they have a job, are going to keep their job, and are likely to get a raise. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1785 "2016-06-24T15:02:04Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I think Brexit is good for Hillary. Voters will seek stability, not recklessness. [Donald Trump blames Obama for Brexit — claims the U.S. will cast similar vote against “global elites” in November.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/24/donald_trump_blames_obama_for_brexit_claims_the_u_s_will_cast_similar_vote_against_global_elites_in_november/) I guess that makes clear enough the lineup on this issue, to the extent it is an issue relevant to American voters. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1786 "2016-06-24T15:14:52Z")
How can one “blame” somebody for something you support? How does this work in other contexts? “I blame Sam Phillips for creating the conditions which allowed my favorite singer, Elvis Presley, to begin to flourish. Damn you Phillips, damn you all to hell!” Huh? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1787 "2016-06-24T15:17:36Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > How can one “blame” somebody for something you support? > > How does this work in other contexts? > > “I blame Sam Phillips for creating the conditions which allowed my favorite singer, Elvis Presley, to begin to flourish. Damn you Phillips, damn you all to hell!” > > Huh? > [@](#): > > Trump later blamed the results of the Brexit referendum on President Barack Obama, who he accused of meddling in British affairs. > > “I was surprised that President Obama would come here and be so bold as to tell the people what to do and I think that a lot of people don’t like him and I think if he had not said it I think your result might have been different,” he said. “When he said it, people were not happy about it, and I thought it was totally inappropriate.” > > “I actually think that his recommendation perhaps caused it to fail.” Is Trump making a commitment here never to meddle in other countries’ affairs? ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1788 "2016-06-24T18:04:35Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Sanders has an editorial in the Washington Post today about what he, oops his ‘revolution,’ wants. > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/23/bernie-sanders-heres-what-we-want/?hpid=hp\_no-name\_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory](https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/23/bernie-sanders-heres-what-we-want/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory) > > A bunch of big words and big dreams without a lot of specifics. However, although he mentions universal voter registration, there’s not a word about changing the Democratic electoral process. I guess he’s been told in no uncertain terms that eliminating super delegates is off the table , since the Congressional Black Caucus supports them. Perhaps he was told that the more likely reform is to reduce the number of caucuses? > > There is also not a word about the Democratic Party Chair. Realistically once Hillary is President the DNC chair decreases immensely in power/importance. It’s only a significant position when you’re in the opposition or it’s an election year. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1789 "2016-06-24T19:49:08Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Trump later blamed the results of the Brexit referendum on President Barack Obama, who he accused of meddling in British affairs. > > > > “I was surprised that President Obama would come here and be so bold as to tell the people what to do and I think that a lot of people don’t like him and I think if he had not said it I think your result might have been different,” he said. “When he said it, people were not happy about it, and I thought it was totally inappropriate.” > > “I actually think that his recommendation perhaps caused it to fail.” > > Is Trump making a commitment here never to meddle in other countries’ affairs? If Trump operated on logic: yes. But of course the answer is ‘no’…because whatever HE tells other countries to do is not _meddling_–by definition! It’s really the best advice, the best in the world, simply fantastic advice, you’d have to be a total loser not to follow that advice. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1790 "2016-06-24T21:08:18Z")
Conor Lynch writes: [They aren’t in it for ‘free stuff’: What critics get wrong about millennial Bernie Sanders supporters.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/24/they_arent_in_it_for_free_stuff_what_critics_get_wrong_about_millennial_bernie_sanders_supporters/) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1791 "2016-06-24T22:18:55Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Conor Lynch writes: [They aren’t in it for ‘free stuff’: What critics get wrong about millennial Bernie Sanders supporters.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/24/they_arent_in_it_for_free_stuff_what_critics_get_wrong_about_millennial_bernie_sanders_supporters/) Lynch is a butt hurt Bernie Bro. Salon has been a hotbed for the Bernie Bro crowd, but primary season is over. Shitbag Sanders lost, he has a choice to make now. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1792 "2016-06-24T23:02:54Z")
Why do you have to be an asshole? Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![FightMyIgnorance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@FightMyIgnorance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FightMyIgnorance)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1793 "2016-06-24T23:44:42Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Lynch is a butt hurt Bernie Bro. Salon has been a hotbed for the Bernie Bro crowd, but primary season is over. Shitbag Sanders lost, he has a choice to make now. Yes yes, that’s all nice, but how about something more substantive than “Butthurt Bro whines.” Tell us why he’s wrong. So far this season, most of your attacks on Sanders have been pure polemics rather than any real issues-based arguments. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1794 "2016-06-24T23:56:23Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Why do you have to be an asshole? > > Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk Warning. You should know better than that. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1795 "2016-06-25T00:01:58Z")
> [@FightMyIgnorance](#): > > Yes yes, that’s all nice, but how about something more substantive than “Butthurt Bro whines.” Tell us why he’s wrong. So far this season, most of your attacks on Sanders have been pure polemics rather than any real issues-based arguments. Seconded. You really have been ill-natured and nasty about it all, **dale,** not just against Sanders but his supporters and the whole movement they’re trying to start. Are you really that horrified by the notion of a social-democratic America?! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1796 "2016-06-25T00:32:58Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Lynch is a butt hurt Bernie Bro. Salon has been a hotbed for the Bernie Bro crowd, but primary season is over. Shitbag Sanders lost, he has a choice to make now. Even tho I preferred Hillary, Sanders is a great guy. Some of his supporters got carried away, I’ll admit. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1797 "2016-06-25T00:33:16Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Seconded. You really have been ill-natured and nasty about it all, **dale,** not just against Sanders but his supporters and the whole movement they’re trying to start. Are you really that horrified by the notion of a social-democratic America?! I’m glad Ms Clinton is the Nominee Presumptive. But I would _love_ for the Sanders “movement” to carry on! Please, let them bring some “social-democratic” candidates to light! Here in Texas I’m a Yellow Dog Democrat–because the worst Democrat is better than then best Republican. After we Dump Trump, I’m eager to see what Sanders & his followers come up with in elections at \*all \*levels. I hope they don’t disappoint me. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1798 "2016-06-25T06:26:35Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Lynch is a butt hurt Bernie Bro. Salon has been a hotbed for the Bernie Bro crowd, but primary season is over. Shitbag Sanders lost, he has a choice to make now. “Bernie Bro” is a pejorative invented by Hillary supporters to imply that his supporters are a bunch of misogynistic neanderthals. It’s a stupid and immature talking point. For one thing, I’ve met plenty of female supporters. At this point I think he’s trying to bring in some of his most rabid supporters for a soft landing by fighting for them to the very end. I think his real goal at this point is to bring them into an organization that’s sort of a left-wing Tea Party. The first goal of that organization will be to elect as many Democrats as possible in November, including Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1799 "2016-06-25T06:58:50Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > 1. “that the Democratic Party passes the most progressive platform in its history” I’d rather we win vs Trump. > > 2. \*we must ban the sale and distribution of assault weapons, \* Useless and political grandstanding. > > 3. \*end the gun show loophole \* there is no such loophole. > > 4. > - making public colleges and universities tuition free \*- No. Make them reasonable so that no one has to incur a huge debt, yes. But not free. Hillary Clinton supports both of those gun control measures you mention-if anything she’s been trying to run to Sanders’s left on that issue. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754/1800 "2016-06-28T17:22:50Z")
So Sanders is thinking of starting his own advocacy group? And his wife is encouraging this? Sounds like a way for Jane to collect a cushy paycheck now that she’s no longer screwing Burlington College over. > **[Sanders’s next challenge: Where will he take his revolution?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanderss-next-challenge-where-will-he-take-his-revolution/2016/06/26/40d0bf68-3a59-11e6-9ccd-d6005beac8b3_story.html)** > > He must convince his supporters to continue the movement with someone else. Just like Obama’s Organizing for Action or Howard Dean’s Democracy for America, any Sanders advocacy group is likely to be ineffective, and in Sanders’ case, a further exercise in ego stroking. I imagine Eric Kingson will get crushed in his congressional primary and I can’t wait for DWS to win her primary in August. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=89) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-bernie-sanders-d-vt-campaign-for-potus-thread/718754.md?page=91)