# 2016 Omnibus College Football Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 2, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743 "2016-09-02T00:52:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/121 "2016-11-13T05:39:15Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Shame on you! I was at Doak tonight for a concert and the crowd cheered when the Clemson/Pitt result was announced. > > As painful as it is to say, the result was a net loss for FSU. One, it hurts our SOS for bowl picks coming up. Second, we NEED the ACC to be respected and a regular in the BCS playoff. Right now, there’s already a perception sold regularly by ESPN that a one-loss SEC champ is as deserving (or maybe more so) than a no-loss ACC champ. The only way to fix that is to get in the playoffs on an annual basis and beat the SEC at least as often (if not more so) than we lose to them. We should be ACC fans as part of our Nole fandom. I know; I know. Believe me, I felt guilty writing it (that’s why it’s last). I just can’t help but root for the underdog most of the time, ya know what i’m sayin’? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/122 "2016-11-13T06:08:52Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I know; I know. Believe me, I felt guilty writing it (that’s why it’s last). I just can’t help but root for the underdog most of the time, ya know what i’m sayin’? Oh, let’s see. I went to my first FSU game in 1973. I went to Bobby’s first game as head coach (and his last). I (literally) cried when we lost to Oklahoma in 1980 to end the undefeated season of 1979. I was at FSU’s first National Championship game. I was there for the 5th Quarter in the French Quarter (and the Choke at Doak that preceded it). I understand rooting for the underdog, it’s in my DNA because for a significant portion of my life, we _were_ the underdog. The little team that could. I get it. But now we have to be bigger than that. I satisfy my underdog itch by rooting for Navy - especially against the Irish! And it’s been a good decade by those standards… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/123 "2016-11-13T06:13:13Z")
I was in the stands, behind the goalposts, for Wide Right. One of the few times in my life as a Seminole that we lost both the game _and_ the party. Maybe some of why I was impressed with Pitt beating Clemson is the fact that we came so close to beating them this year but fell apart in the last 2:44 of the game. It was kinda revenge, ya know what I’m sayin’? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/124 "2016-11-13T12:29:03Z")
Yep. I was there too. I know Gerry well and it haunts him to this day. To get this thread out of Tallahassee, good grief, BCS 2, 3, and 4 all go down in the same day! What a strange weekend of college football. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/125 "2016-11-13T13:50:02Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Yep. I was there too. I know Gerry well and it haunts him to this day. > > To get this thread out of Tallahassee, good grief, BCS 2, 3, and 4 all go down in the same day! What a strange weekend of college football. First time since 1985. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/126 "2016-11-13T15:55:16Z")
Even if tOSU beats Michigan, tOSU probably does not get to the B1G Championship. Penn St also has one loss and they have two Cupcakes left on their schedule (MSU and Rutgers). looks like there is a 5 way Tie for 2nd spot behind 'Bama. Clemson, Louisville, Ohio State, Michigan, and Washington. Only one of those teams has a guaranteed loss left. WVU has one loss and playing OU in what is probably the game of the week. Could they be a fly in the ointment? Their one loss was against a good Okie St team. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/127 "2016-11-13T16:52:14Z")
Hard to see Penn State as Big Ten champion getting left out, while Ohio State gets in without even having won their division. But it’s possible. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/128 "2016-11-14T14:47:17Z")
I have to give it up to ESPN for sending GameDay to Kalamazoo this week and the undefeated WMU team. They could have had a fourth Tennessee game but at long last the MAC gets some coverage. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/129 "2016-11-14T15:25:04Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I have to give it up to ESPN for sending GameDay to Kalamazoo this week and the undefeated WMU team. They could have had a fourth Tennessee game but at long last the MAC gets some coverage. Also note that if WMU wins out (no guarantee by any means - a loss in two weeks at home against Toledo and they probably don’t even get into the MAC championship game), they’re pretty much assured of a Cotton Bowl berth, which is also on ESPN. ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/130 "2016-11-15T02:52:44Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Hard to see Penn State as Big Ten champion getting left out, while Ohio State gets in without even having won their division. But it’s possible. Is that possible, or the kind of thing the committee could override? My Nebraska Cornhuskers are back to form with our Minnesota win: slow start, culminating in a 4th quarter win. Just like every other game this year. Here’s what I’m going to do: call 62-3 Ohio State an **outlier** and “take it out” of our season. To show I’m fair and did learn from my statistics classes, I’m fine also removing our 35-point win over Wyoming as the other outlier. So, we’re 7-1 right now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/131 "2016-11-15T04:00:36Z")
> [@HubZilla](#): > > Is that possible, or the kind of thing the committee could override? The committee’s job is to pick the four best teams. Conference championships play a role in that, but they aren’t a requirement. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/132 "2016-11-15T20:31:24Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > The committee’s job is to pick the four best teams. Conference championships play a role in that, but they aren’t a requirement. This is what the committee is supposed to do, according to the CFP Media Guide: \*\*\*The criteria to be provided to the selection committee must be aligned with the ideals of the commissioners, presidents, athletic directors and coaches to honor regular season success while at the same time providing enough flexibility and discretion to select a non-champion or independent under circumstances where that particular non-champion or independent is unequivocally one of the four best teams in the country. When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must be considered: • Championships won • Strength of schedule • Head-to-head competition (if it occurred) • Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory) * * * ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/133 "2016-11-16T19:13:36Z")
Is anyone complaining about the B1G bias in the BCS? B1G has 4 teams in the top 8 of the BCS standings (tOSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn St). Michigan loses and they don’t drop in the BCS standing Only one SEC team in the top 13, and you have to go 19 deep to get 4 SEC teams. (Meanwhile Six B1G teams in the Top 18.) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/134 "2016-11-16T20:32:26Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Is anyone complaining about the B1G bias in the BCS? No, because the B1G is demonstrably the best conference, top to bottom. They play the toughest schedule, week in, week out. Why, if Alabama had to play Ohio State’s schedule they’d be lucky to come in 4th. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/135 "2016-11-17T01:43:33Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Is anyone complaining about the B1G bias in the BCS? > > B1G has 4 teams in the top 8 of the BCS standings (tOSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn St). I’m just happy that Trump University isn’t in the top ten. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/136 "2016-11-18T04:59:14Z")
Louisville just blew its chance, down 31-0 at halftime and losing 36-10 to Houston. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/137 "2016-11-18T14:22:29Z")
It’s Big Game Week! Go Bears! Beat Stanfurd! Give 'em the Axe! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/138 "2016-11-20T01:02:17Z")
Notre Dame loses \*AGAIN! \* > [@Gatopescado](#): > > Too bad it can’t be a **Perfect Day**. UCLA lost earlier this week. 😛 I stand corrected. It still counts as a Perfect Day! A chance for a record 4th in a season later tonight! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/139 "2016-11-20T01:38:22Z")
Ya know, as much as I hate to admit it, I really don’t understand how anybody _but_ McCaffrey is being talked about for the Heisman. Sure, there are some hot-shot QB’s out there, but McCaffrey does _everything_ better than just about anybody out there. Kick return, punt return, full-back, slot, WR, hell- I think he even throws a pass now and then. I just watched him score 3 TD’s (two of them HUGE breakaways), receive a punt and take a big hit, and still advanced nearly 10 yards. Sure, Stanford has taken a few loses, but I really believe McCaffrey is the **best player** in college football. And that is who should get the trophy. Not the QB of the team with the best record. I gotta go brush my teeth now… ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743/140 "2016-11-20T04:43:03Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Ya know, as much as I hate to admit it, I really don’t understand how anybody _but_ McCaffrey is being talked about for the Heisman. Sure, there are some hot-shot QB’s out there, but McCaffrey does _everything_ better than just about anybody out there… Nope. He was injured and ineffective for 3 weeks, ergo he’s out of the running. Gone. Forgotten. That was sarcasm. You’re absolutely right – when healthy, he’s the most electrifying and unstoppable player in the game today. He got hosed last year, and it’s a pity he won’t get more consideration this year. I’m thoroughly sick of watching him and can’t wait until he takes his act to the NFL. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-college-football-thread/764743.md?page=8)