# 2016 Omnibus Golf Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 14, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144 "2016-02-14T19:28:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/1 "2016-02-14T19:28:17Z")

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I don’t see a golf thread yet for 2016. Here’s a thread to discuss the PGA, LPGA, and Champions tours for 2016. I imagine we will do separate threads for the majors.

I’m really hoping Phil pulls off a win at Pebble Beach. There’s nothing better than watching Pebble Beach while I’m stuck inside on a cold snowy February afternoon. Make up for the meltdown in San Diego.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/2 "2016-02-15T00:25:49Z")

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Phil couldn’t get it done, but his swing looks better than it has in years and he putted really well this week. I look for him to get a win this year, and he should definitely be contending at Augusta.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/3 "2016-02-15T02:17:32Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Phil couldn’t get it done, but he putted really well this week.

At least on the first 71 holes…

Someone else who couldn’t finish the job: Ray Romano, whose team I think had the lead after 54; they shot a 72…but Vaughn Taylor and Gregg Ontiveros (CEO of Group O) shot a 62 to win by a stroke.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/4 "2016-02-19T00:21:11Z")

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Golf can be a streaky sport but I can’t believe Jordan Spieth had 8 bogeys today and is at 6 over. Wow!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/5 "2016-02-19T02:01:04Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Golf can be a streaky sport but I can’t believe Jordan Spieth had 8 bogeys today and is at 6 over. Wow!

you forgot the Double bogey on #18. He shot 79 (+8) at the par 71 Riviera.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/6 "2016-02-19T03:18:38Z")

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A truly awful round of golf. [http://www.pgatour.com/news/2016/02/190/a-day-to-forget.html?cid=FBPGATOUR](http://www.pgatour.com/news/2016/02/190/a-day-to-forget.html?cid=FBPGATOUR)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/7 "2016-03-02T01:43:44Z")

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Biggest Tournament of the year, thus far, is this week in Miami.

Top 3 players in the rankings, Jordan, Jason, Rory are paired together in Rounds 1 & 2. All three have less than stellar results since Jordan won the tournament of Champions in the first week.

Each of them have missed a cut in their last two tournaments. Jason at San Diego, Jordan in Los Angeles, and Rory last week in Honda.

Smart money is on someone who hits the ball a long way.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/8 "2016-03-02T14:38:22Z")

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Do we know who will be in the Olympics for golf this year and what tournaments, if any, will be impacted?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/9 "2016-03-09T01:18:17Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> Do we know who will be in the Olympics for golf this year and what tournaments, if any, will be impacted?

The Olympic participants will be determined by the July 11 OWGR (Men) and Rolex (Womens) Rankings.

60 players are exempt. Up to two from each country unless they are in the top 15, where the # of participants are capped at 4. Brazil gets their highest ranked player on both Mens and Womens side, no matter where they are ranked.

Right now, USA would have 4 players (Jordan Spieth, Bubba Watson, Rickie Fowler and Dustin Johnson) because they are all in the Top 15. Players like Patrick Reed and Jim Furyk who are in the top 15, won’t be invited despite being in the top 15 because there are 4 US players ranked ahead of them.

USA only has three female players in the top 15 of the US Rankings (Lexi Thompson, Stacy Lewis and Cristie Kerr). Korea has 7 players in the top 15 but only the top 4 will get to play in the Olympics.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/10 "2016-03-11T12:56:56Z")

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Haven’t had a chance to see any of the lowlights, but Spieth looks like he’s had another awful round with a 5 over yesterday. What’s gotten into him? The crazy early season travel schedule?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/11 "2016-04-02T01:01:13Z")

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If there was any doubt, Tiger will not be playing the Masters.

Which is next week, by the way.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/12 "2016-04-02T22:44:43Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Tiger will not be playing the Masters.

My guess is that this is the end of any realistic chance he can pass - or even equal - Jack’s 18 major titles. Not so much missing a major tournament as the reason for that: he’s now 40 with a body that simply isn’t in shape to play tournament golf, let alone to contend for the win.

He collected his 14 major titles over 12 years (1997 - 2008). He’d need to start winning them again at about that rate to reach 18 or 19 in the time he (optimistically) has left. I’d say the chance of this is now below 1%.

I’d be extremely happy to be proved wrong.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/13 "2016-05-19T13:37:26Z")

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Muirfield votes to not allow female members. Thus, they’re out of the running to host the Open Championship. The vote was close, 64% and 66% was needed. I assume they’ll have another vote in the future and get enough support to admit women.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/14 "2016-05-19T14:09:42Z")

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[CEO charged with insider trading](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-insidertrading-idUSKCN0YA1OC) is linked to giving a tip to Lefty.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/15 "2016-06-02T22:06:14Z")

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Can Golf magazine sink any lower? I’ve seen a pro-Trump article today as well as a sexist as Hell, “LPGA Tour Beauties”!article.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/16 "2016-07-15T12:14:09Z")

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Phil Mickelson with an opening round 63 at The Open Championship. Almost perfect condition for the first round. It’s Phil’s tournament to lose now. Can he avoid a disaster round?

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/17 "2016-07-17T21:57:15Z")

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Damn, I _feel_ for the poor guy. Probably his single greatest tournament _ever_, and he has to settle for second because someone else happened to be from a different planet that week. And this after Tiger Woods has eaten his lunch how many times??

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/18 "2016-07-17T23:27:55Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> Damn, I _feel_ for the poor guy. Probably his single greatest tournament _ever_, and he has to settle for second because someone else happened to be from a different planet that week. And this after Tiger Woods has eaten his lunch how many times??

Heh, Jack fans think he had to battle Arnie and Lee down the stretch every time he won, and now this generation is doing it with Tiger.

The answer is, once. That’s how many times Phil finished second to Tiger in a major.

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/19 "2016-07-18T23:49:51Z")

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You are aware that if you fail to provide any specifics, I’m only going to ask more questions, right? 🙂

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a golfer with a higher second-to-first ratio than Mickelson. Sure, Greg Norman was hopelessly snakebitten at majors (seriously, this was The Curse of the Bambino _multiplied by four_), but he made up for it everywhere else. Mickelson, it always seems like there’s _someone_ better. Of course Woods is going to be the most obvious example because for a pretty long stretch he was better than _everyone_, but he had company.

Aside: Was this an easy course or what? I remember, not very long ago, when +5 won the British Open. Of course, that was one no one with a soul could _ever_ forget.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-omnibus-golf-thread/746144/20 "2016-07-19T17:31:56Z")

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In terms of dominance against the field, it can be argued that Stenson’s win was more dominant that Woods win in the 2000 US Open.

In terms of Winning Score against the field average, Stenson winning score tops Woods’ score in the 2000 US Open.

The 81 players that made the cut averaged 288.45 and Stenson’s 264 was 24.45 shots better than that.

In the 2000 US Open, Woods was 24.08 better than the field average.

Next best in major, was Ray Floyd win in the 1976 Masters at 21.74

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In terms of [Z-Score](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_score), Woods 2000 US Open was the best at 4.12. Stenson was next best at 3.50. Nicklaus’ win in the 1965 Masters was 3rd at 3.48.

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