# 2016 Super Bowl

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 27, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364 "2016-01-27T14:08:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/201 "2016-02-08T03:02:21Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Looks like it’s being extremely dependable.

I’m not saying it was a bad call, but “When the game was on the line, he wanted a seat on the bench” Isn’t exactly epic ballad worthy. 😉

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/202 "2016-02-08T03:02:44Z")

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I completely undervalued the Denver D during the AFC championship. This has been a clinic.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/203 "2016-02-08T03:02:59Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> You’re right. You were referring to the whirlwind dive, right? I forgot that was in 32, and not 33.

Yep, that dive. Unless you were a Broncos fan, 33 was pretty boring.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/204 "2016-02-08T03:03:08Z")

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I think that’s going to seal it.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/205 "2016-02-08T03:03:28Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> What was Cam doing after that fumble?

Looks like he didn’t want to chance getting hurt.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/206 "2016-02-08T03:04:23Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Well, I guess there’s gonna be a lot of babies born in Denver 9 months from now.

Nah, you have to factor in all the pot at the Superbowl parties there, as a mitigating factor for getting knocked up.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/207 "2016-02-08T03:05:01Z")

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That was the last pass Manning will throw in the NFL. Even though it’s unofficial.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/208 "2016-02-08T03:07:25Z")

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Can I ask a stupid question? (I don’t watch much football.)

There was some famous game involving New England and Oakland some years back where the NE quarterback had the ball knocked out of his hands late in the match. Fumble, recovery to Oakland, game over, Oakland wins. Only there was something about a “tuck rule” and the ruling was that it was actually an incomplete pass (?). NE kept the ball, tied and won the game.

That fumble or whatever it was by Newton looked very similar to my recollection of the other play. What makes it different? Or, did they change the rule?

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/209 "2016-02-08T03:08:50Z")

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It occurred to me that going for 2 may not have been the right move? If Carolina had turned it over and scored, it would have trimmed the deficit to 22-12: a TD and a FG.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/210 "2016-02-08T03:09:15Z")

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> Can I ask a stupid question? (I don’t watch much football.)
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> There was some famous game involving New England and Oakland some years back where the NE quarterback had the ball knocked out of his hands late in the match. Fumble, recovery to Oakland, game over, Oakland wins. Only there was something about a “tuck rule” and the ruling was that it was actually an incomplete pass (?). NE kept the ball, tied and won the game.
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> That fumble or whatever it was by Newton looked very similar to my recollection of the other play. What makes it different? Or, did they change the rule?
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> Thanks.

Tuck rule is still in effect, as far as I know. It looked to me that Cam never brought it up to throw. Ball was back in his hand and knocked out low.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/211 "2016-02-08T03:10:23Z")

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In all fairness, the Panthers will be back. Newton is extremely skilled, and Carolina is a very good team. It won’t surprise me at all if they win a couple of Super Bowls in the next three or four years.

That said: Yeeeeeehaaaaah!

Go Broncos!

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/212 "2016-02-08T03:10:55Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Tuck rule is still in effect, as far as I know. It looked to me that Cam never brought it up to throw. Ball was back in his hand and knocked out low.

Yes, I think Peyton’s fumble was closer than that one.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/213 "2016-02-08T03:11:20Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> It occurred to me that going for 2 may not have been the right move? If Carolina had turned it over and scored, it would have trimmed the deficit to 22-12: a TD and a FG.

The closest I’ve seen a team come to a 2-point defensive score on a 2-point conversion attempt was the Broncos in the AFC Championship game and even then the guy fumbled the ball back, not that it mattered. That’s an awfully low chance to defend against, versus the upside of being up two full touchdowns plus trys.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/214 "2016-02-08T03:13:28Z")

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> That fumble or whatever it was by Newton looked very similar to my recollection of the other play. What makes it different? Or, did they change the rule?
> 
> Thanks.

One was knocked out of his arm during a passing motion, which makes it an incomplete pass, but Newton’s wasn’t during an official passing motion(yet) which makes it a fumble.

Basically an arm motion counts as being part of a pass from the moment the hand starts forward with the ball, through the point where the ball is released if it is, but if it isn’t thrown , it is still part of the passing motion clear through the point where the arm stops moving, through the time where it moves backward, all the way until the Quarterback has it tucked back into his body again, at which point it finally isn’t part of the passing motion again, and can be fumbled.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/215 "2016-02-08T03:14:08Z")

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I’m voting Von Miller MVP

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/216 "2016-02-08T03:14:15Z")

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IIRC, the tuck rule basically said that if the QB loses the ball during a pump fake(even while tucking the ball back into his body), it still counts as a incomplete pass. I think that the intent was to free the refs from having to distinguish a pump fake and a pass attempt.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/217 "2016-02-08T03:15:07Z")

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Congratulations, Broncos!

Big huge congrats to Peyton Manning for reaching 200 all-time wins! That’s quite a high bar to set for future quarterbacks!  
Okay, now that that’s out of the way… man, what a boring game. Neither team’s offense looked super, but the Broncos defense did. I’d give the game a 3/10 as entertainment.

Oh, and the commercials were boring and the halftime show was an abomination that surely indicates an imminent apocalypse of some kind.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/218 "2016-02-08T03:15:46Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> In all fairness, the Panthers will be back. Newton is extremely skilled, and Carolina is a very good team. It won’t surprise me at all if they win a couple of Super Bowls in the next three or four years.

With that defense, they should be in contention. But I don’t think they’ll be able to have the easiest schedule and be the league leaders in turnovers every year.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/219 "2016-02-08T03:16:45Z")

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That lateral was heads up, but not getting out of bounds was stupid.

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**Author:** ![kurtisokc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kurtisokc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurtisokc)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/220 "2016-02-08T03:17:03Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Nah, you have to factor in all the pot at the Superbowl parties there, as a mitigating factor for getting knocked up.

What? Does pot make you less horny? (I wouldn’t know.)

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