# 2016 Super Bowl

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 27, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364 "2016-01-27T14:08:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/261 "2016-02-08T08:22:17Z")

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I wish Mike Shula would stop wasting all our first down plays with inside runs for 0-1 yard gains

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**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/262 "2016-02-08T11:23:33Z")

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Just wanted to drop in and say Congratulations to the Broncos for winning and say thank you to the Panthers for a wonderful season.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/263 "2016-02-08T12:00:02Z")

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Cam getting well deserved criticism for walking out of his Super Bowl press conference. It doesn’t take much to bring out pouty Cam.

“You don’t like my dancing? Stop me, then.”

If you don’t want to give losing Super Bowl press conferences, then don’t lose the Super Bowl.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/264 "2016-02-08T12:29:04Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Well, they showed _something_ while Lynn Swann was carrying the Vince McMahon - er, Steve “Brooklyn Brawler” Lombardi - Steve McMahon? No, that doesn’t sound right - Vince Lombardi Trophy to the stage; they cut away to a shot of the crowd in the stands (and it might have been from earlier in the day) for about a second, and cut audio for about three.

Yeah, I suspect that was because the players crowding into the shot were screaming obscenities. It looked like a high view of the stadium.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/265 "2016-02-08T13:29:00Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Never suggested any such thing. Just that he, among footballers at least, seems to pimp just about anything. Also, it’s pretty unusual to see a player pimping products in a post-game interview. Budweiser and Papa John’s received about equal billing in his interview with his wife and kids.  
> I thought about it once, but poking my eyes out with hot knives seemed like a better use of my time.

And as **Russian Heel’s** link proves, Budweiser states that Peyton is not one of their spokespersons and was not compensated nor asked to mention the products name.

The guy just likes his Budweiser, that’s all. He’s hurting, tired, exhilarated, and he’s going out to celebrate by getting good 'n drunk.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/266 "2016-02-08T14:11:32Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The guy just likes his Budweiser, that’s all.

I think Manning is the best QB to play the game, I love his self-deprecation and sense of humor, and I enjoy watching him both on and off the field. But I am more disturbed by the fact he likes the swill that is Budweiser than I am that he may be taking HGH. It’s like being a kid and finding out George Washington owned slaves. A sad, sad day for me.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/267 "2016-02-08T14:40:35Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> I think I got all the score predictions in this thread. The average is Panthers by 8 1/2.

> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> I’m thinking this is Peyton Manning’s last game (last Rodeo he calls it).
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> I’m going with Denver by three points over the Panthers …
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> something like 31-28
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> Tickets are selling for over $5,000 with the TV on air for the Super Bowl commercials going for $5 million dollars.
> 
> I wonder what ten years from now will be in 2026?

I just love it when I am right 😃

Anyone else get the game winner right? I was off on the score for sure, but so were the bookies 🆒

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/268 "2016-02-08T14:47:56Z")

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A good defensive game and all, but if I’m Carolina I’ve got to be bummed at the officiating. The non-reversal of the first challenge I thought was incorrect. It looked like a catch to me, I can’t imagine what they saw that I didn’t. I wish they had the replay official record his comments over video of what he looked at so we all knew what he was thinking. The defensive holding on the last TD drive for Denver I thought was questionable. The ball was 15 feet up in the air when it left the end zone. Does uncatchable matter on defensive holding?

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/269 "2016-02-08T15:07:54Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> A good defensive game and all, but if I’m Carolina I’ve got to be bummed at the officiating. The non-reversal of the first challenge I thought was incorrect. It looked like a catch to me, I can’t imagine what they saw that I didn’t. I wish they had the replay official record his comments over video of what he looked at so we all knew what he was thinking. The defensive holding on the last TD drive for Denver I thought was questionable. The ball was 15 feet up in the air when it left the end zone. Does uncatchable matter on defensive holding?

Agreed on the non-reversal (although the language was “the call stands” not “the call is confirmed” which usually means “no conclusive evidence to overturn”. I thought it was pretty conclusive, but maybe they decided they couldn’t see the ball through the entirety of the play so there may have been a point where it hit the ground).

The catchability of a pass has nothing to do with defensive holding, though. The defense is simply not allowed to hold or tackle an eligible receiver after five yards.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/270 "2016-02-08T15:22:06Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> it’s unfair that they made Philly Brown leave the game because of the concussion protocol
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> the Super Bowl is too important. It’s the last game of the season. they ought to relax the rules. The glory from winning the Super Bowl is worth getting brain damage

Please, please, please, pleasepleaseplease, **please** , did I mention “please,” _please_ tell me that last sentence was sarcastic. No game is worth permanent brain damage - not even the Super Bowl.

Imagine the message it would send to kids if he had been allowed to stay in the game. I can almost see some high school coach now: “So what if he played with a hairline fracture that end up resulting in his having to walk on one leg for the rest of his life? At least I - er, he won a state championship! If players with concussions can play in the Super Bowl, how is this different?”

Or: “They let someone with a concussion continue playing? That settles it - no son of mine is playing football! (“But mom-”) No buts - you’re learning soccer immediately!” (Followed by, “Due to the lack of turnout, caused in no small part by parents refusing to sign permission slips, there will be no football teams this year. As a result, the Homecoming Ceremony will be held at a boys’ soccer game…which, as a result, means that it will take place in January.”

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/271 "2016-02-08T15:51:18Z")

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PSXer is congenitally incapable of being sincere.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/272 "2016-02-08T16:11:13Z")

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Congrats to the Broncos - that was as dominating a defensive performance as I’ve seen in a Super Bowl. The Panthers O-Line just couldn’t handle it and Cam was under constant pressure. Great game planning by Wade Phillips. A few other thoughts:  
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[li]Panthers got absolutely screwed by the non-overturn of that catch by Cotchery. No question that was a catch and led immediately to a defensive touchdown. I’m glad the Broncos ended up winning by more than 7, as it would have been a tainted victory (IMHO) if they didn’t.[/li][li]Aqib Talib should not be allowed to play football. He nearly ripped that receiver’s (was it Brown?) head off when he deliberately threw him to the ground by his facemask. Can you be charged with attempted murder on a football field? (Only half joking, but I know the answer).[/li][li]Peyton is a shell of his former self. Has any QB in the modern era done less over a season and final game to win a title? That said, he seems like a decent guy (aside from his friendship with Papa John), so good on him for the victory lap - a nice cap to an amazing career. I sincerely hope the HGH stuff is not true.[/li][li]Mike Shula called a terrible offensive game for the Panthers, particularly in the second half. Hmmm, making Cam stand back there for 10 seconds while all the receivers run deep routes doesn’t seem to be working. Should I maybe call a couple of screens, maybe a draw, how about some quick passes? Nope. Let’s just keep doing the same damn thing, but I’ll leave a back in to pass protect. Womp womp. Terrible lack of halftime adjustments.[/li][li]This game played out like I thought the whole season might for the Panthers when they lost Benjamin. I know I wasn’t alone thinking “They’re toast. Who is Cam going to throw it to now outside of Olsen?” Somehow they managed to create a lot of offense all season, but man their lack of a big receiver really shone very bright in this game.[/li][li]Commercials sucked.[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/273 "2016-02-08T16:15:22Z")

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I’m really happy for Peyton. I fully realize he did not have a great game, but he’s a likeable guy and frankly, was the definition of what a quarterback is for most of my football watching life.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/274 "2016-02-08T16:15:39Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> A good defensive game and all, but if I’m Carolina I’ve got to be bummed at the officiating. The non-reversal of the first challenge I thought was incorrect. It looked like a catch to me, I can’t imagine what they saw that I didn’t.

It was probably a catch, but to overturn a call on the field, you need clear, undisputed evidence. Cotchery was rolling over the ball, and you saw it moving both before and after the roll, so there’s no way to say 100% that the ground didn’t help him control it during the roll. As the rules are written, you can’t overturn that, despite it being a catch.

> [@](#):
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> I wish they had the replay official record his comments over video of what he looked at so we all knew what he was thinking. The defensive holding on the last TD drive for Denver I thought was questionable. The ball was 15 feet up in the air when it left the end zone. Does uncatchable matter on defensive holding?

Yes. Catchable is only a factor for Pass interference, not holding.

Both calls were correct.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/275 "2016-02-08T16:17:01Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> Worse than the Bills in SB 27, who had NINE turnovers?

The Bills won that game, along with the other 3 appearances!! Didn’t you watch the pre-game show? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/276 "2016-02-08T16:18:51Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Congrats to the Broncos - that was as dominating a defensive performance as I’ve seen in a Super Bowl.  
> [/LIST]

Super Bowl 48 had a pretty good defense, with Seattle holding a record setting offensive team to 8 points.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/277 "2016-02-08T16:19:32Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Never suggested any such thing. Just that he, among footballers at least, seems to pimp just about anything. Also, **it’s pretty unusual to see a player pimping products in a post-game interview**.

How many clips of athletes saying “I’m going to Disney World!” in a post-event interview would you need to see to make you change your mind about that last statement?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/278 "2016-02-08T16:20:03Z")

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That was a really boring game, but I’m glad Manning gets to ride off into the sunset. He’s been admirable as the face of the league and I’m really glad I got to watch more or less his entire career. I have revised his position on my personal “all time list” downwards over the years because his supporting cast has always been so good (versus, say, Brady, who’s rarely played with stars) but for me he’s the GOAT.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Does uncatchable matter on defensive holding?

No, because the penalty occurs before the pass is even thrown. Once the ball is in the air the penalty cannot be holding, but must be pass inteference (if there _is_ a penalty).

> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Yeah, I suspect that was because the players crowding into the shot were screaming obscenities. It looked like a high view of the stadium.

I was watching Aqib Talib elbow his way to the front of the line with an Etch-a-Sketch or something and he was pretty clearly yelling “we’re the fucking champs” or something. As bad as it sucks that the Buccaneers let him go without getting anything in return, I’m really glad we let him go because that guy is a moron.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> I’ve never seen a team play a worse Super Bowl than the Panthers just did.

Seriously? The Broncos played like a high school JV team two years ago. The Raiders were utterly crushed by the Buccaneers in 2003. The Panthers at least played superbly on defense (and it really sucks for Kony Easley that they lost, because that guy dominated the game when the Broncos had the ball).

Remember, the Panthers were one big play from taking the lead for a majority of the game. Anyway, it wasn’t that they played badly on offense, exactly; it was that the Broncos played brilliantly on defense. The Panthers’ journeyman WR corps was bound to catch up with them once they played a really good secondary.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/279 "2016-02-08T16:25:08Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Super Bowl 48 had a pretty good defense, with Seattle holding a record setting offensive team to 8 points.

Absolutely. Also an amazing performance. I didn’t say Denver’s defense was the _most_ dominating, just that it was up there with the best ever.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-super-bowl/744364/280 "2016-02-08T16:37:45Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> How many clips of athletes saying “I’m going to Disney World!” in a post-event interview would you need to see to make you change your mind about that last statement?

Quite a lot actually, because there are thousands of post-event interviews conducted across pro sports every year, and in the vast, vast, VAST majority of them, you don’t see the athlete going out of their way to verbally pimp products in the actual interview.

I have nothing in particular against the Broncos, or against Peyton Manning. He’s clearly been an incredible QB, one of the greatest ever, and he seems, from my limited knowledge of him, to be a relatively affable person. He’ll just hawk basically anything, is all.

Seeing people who are already multi-millionaires from their day job whore themselves out for a wide range of companies is just one of my little pet peeves, is all. I understand that it’s a bit irrational, and that nothing i say is ever going to change it, but it’s just one of those things that push my buttons.

In that vein, by the way, it seemed to me that this has become the _de facto_ strategy for Superbowl TV commercials: to get a high-profile, well-respected actors and entertainers to shill your stuff. I understand that this has always been a part of advertising, but it seemed to me that this year’s crop of commercials had a higher percentage than usual of actors with real acting credibility.

It also seems, although i might be wrong about this, that the use of famous people in Superbowl commercials is often inversely proportional to the quality of the commercials themselves. Most of the ads were yawnfests, and it seems, in plenty of cases, that the ad agencies asked themselves, “Should we spend our budget on creating a really interesting ad, or on getting a really famous person?”

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