# 2017 Diet and Fitness Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 10, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778 "2017-01-10T00:00:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![4kad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/7cd45c/32.png) [@4kad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4kad)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/61 "2017-02-06T22:29:34Z")

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Is it possible to lose 10 pounds in 2 weeks?

I eliminated salt, soda, and greasy food since 1/23 and weight 308

Today I weighed myself and it keeps saying 297.4/298  
And I keep standing on the scale every 20 mins and it still saying 297/298  
I didn’t think it was possible

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/62 "2017-02-06T22:57:15Z")

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In a moment of mental weakness, I let my training partner talk me into running in a [Spartan race](https://www.spartan.com/en/race/detail/1713/overview) on 2/25.

We are dong the sprint, which is “only” 3-5 miles. Might as well be a marathon for me. Not to mention the whole “leap though fire” aspect.

Wish me luck.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/63 "2017-02-07T15:52:30Z")

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> [@4kad](#):
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> Is it possible to lose 10 pounds in 2 weeks?
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> I eliminated salt, soda, and greasy food since 1/23 and weight 308
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> Today I weighed myself and it keeps saying 297.4/298  
> And I keep standing on the scale every 20 mins and it still saying 297/298  
> I didn’t think it was possible

That’s possibly water weight, but from watching My 600-lb Life on TLC it does seem the more overweight you are, the faster the weight comes off in the beginning.

For permanent, sustainable weight loss, aim for 1-2 pounds a week.

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**Author:** ![4kad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/7cd45c/32.png) [@4kad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4kad)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/64 "2017-02-07T16:39:31Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> That’s possibly water weight, but from watching My 600-lb Life on TLC it does seem the more overweight you are, the faster the weight comes off in the beginning.
> 
> For permanent, sustainable weight loss, aim for 1-2 pounds a week.

Water weight?

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/65 "2017-02-07T16:50:21Z")

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People often don’t drink enough water, so your body tries to hold onto all the water it thinks it needs. This can lead to 3-4 pounds of water being retained. When you change your habits and the water is released, it can look like you’ve lost a lot of weight all at once. Many diet programs recommend drinking more than a half-gallon of water every day so your body doesn’t think it needs to store water.  
Maybe try googling “water weight”? As with any opinion-based diet lore there is a lot fo conflicting webpages, so you might want to read several.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/66 "2017-02-07T16:58:21Z")

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> [@4kad](#):
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> Water weight?

[Water weight.](http://www.womenshealthmag.com/weight-loss/what-is-water-weight)

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/67 "2017-02-11T23:13:32Z")

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No replies for a week?

Water you weighting for?

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**Author:** ![4kad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/7cd45c/32.png) [@4kad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4kad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/68 "2017-02-12T00:15:10Z")

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have to start my diet plan again on Monday. We had a snowstorm hype and my job was closed so I had to get off track and order some greasy food since I had no food in the fridge.

So on Monday it’s back to the water, chicken salad, seafood salad, High fiber cereal, and low sodium dinners

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**Author:** ![GoodOldKJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GoodOldKJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOldKJ)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/69 "2017-02-13T07:12:46Z")

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I love salad!  
Never harder to say then when facing a Pizza Hut commercial.  
Also never more fulfilling!

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/70 "2017-02-13T14:29:17Z")

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Last night, the scale said I was down 6 pounds from Monday. I could understand that, mostly because I missed two, almost three days of eating, with oral surgery. Life is back to normal, and lifting exercises increase this week. We’ll see what I manage to accomplish…

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/71 "2017-02-13T22:46:43Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> That’s possibly water weight, but from watching My 600-lb Life on TLC it does seem the more overweight you are, the faster the weight comes off in the beginning.
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> For permanent, sustainable weight loss, aim for 1-2 pounds a week.

Long term maintenance rates are terrible no matter how you lose weight since our bodies are evolved to not die from starvation, but people who lose weight rapidly via VLCD (very low calorie diets) tend to have slightly less bad maintenance records.

[http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2001.134/full](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2001.134/full)

**4kad** The only way to burn 10 lbs (of fat) in 2 weeks is to run a deficit of 35,000 calories over 14 days, which works out to 2500 calories a day deficit. That is hard to do unless you are extremely heavy to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/72 "2017-02-14T16:43:56Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> people who lose weight rapidly via VLCD (very low calorie diets) tend to have slightly less bad maintenance records

VLCDs _ **"with active follow-up treatment** _." People who just use a VLCD/LCD and lose a bunch of weight up front but don’t make the necessary behavioral and nutritional changes are no better off than anyone else in the long term.

**Ivylass** is correct. Losing more than 1-2 pounds a week is an indicator that your (_generic “your”; not Wesley Clark’s_) habits may not be sustainable: LCDs, diets, programs, etc. Long-term, healthy habits result in slower weight loss, but the weight is more likely to stay off.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/73 "2017-02-14T18:15:37Z")

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I am not going to spin class today.

Boot Camp is still going on, and the 5:30a Friday Body Pump class is back, which means I’m getting up at 4:30a three days a week. Last Saturday, which is a gym day for me, I simply didn’t have the energy.

Until Boot Camp is over at the end of the month I will stick with Mon, Wed, Fri, and Sat, which equals almost five hours of fitness classes a week. I understand the concept of rest days, but damned if I like them.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/74 "2017-02-15T22:51:22Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> VLCDs _ **"with active follow-up treatment** _." People who just use a VLCD/LCD and lose a bunch of weight up front but don’t make the necessary behavioral and nutritional changes are no better off than anyone else in the long term.
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> **Ivylass** is correct. Losing more than 1-2 pounds a week is an indicator that your (_generic “your”; not Wesley Clark’s_) habits may not be sustainable: LCDs, diets, programs, etc. Long-term, healthy habits result in slower weight loss, but the weight is more likely to stay off.

When you lose weight your biochemistry changes to make you gain the weight back. T3 drops, leptin drops, CCK drops, ghrelin increases, fatty acid synthase increases, etc. I don’t think it matters how you lose the weight, these hormonal changes occur anyway and they are the reason people generally can’t keep the weight off.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/75 "2017-02-16T17:05:29Z")

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Wesley Clark, that’s really depressing.  
May I recommend a book called [Thin for Life](https://www.amazon.com/Thin-Life-Success-People-Weight/dp/0618340556)? It’s a collection of stories about people who lost a lot of weight and kept it off for long periods of time. You can also dig around on the [National Weight Control Registry (NWCR)](http://www.nwcr.ws/) for information about people who have lost more than 30 pounds at kept it off for at least a year.  
I lost, and have kept off, 40 pounds since 2012. It can be done, but it takes daily effort.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/76 "2017-02-16T18:19:16Z")

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Same here…I lost enough weight to fit into a size six several years ago and I still can.

On another note…I upped my weights in Boot Camp on Wednesday!

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/77 "2017-02-23T15:33:39Z")

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Dammit, I went up a couple pounds over the holiday weekend and now it’s just not coming off. Maybe I’ll go back on the 5:2 diet for lent this year. :mad:

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/78 "2017-02-23T18:07:34Z")

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I’m friends with my boot camp instructor and his wife. I was texting her about something else when I happened to mention that I hate [side climbers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw11VHek2U0), which he made us do that Monday.

So what do we do on Wednesday? Side climbers AND burpees both at the beginning and at the end of class, just to see which one is worse! She had shown him my text to ask him to remind her about a separate issue, but all he saw was, “I hate side climbers worse that burpees.”

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/79 "2017-02-26T04:06:34Z")

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I just got finished with the Spartan race.  
It was pretty tough for me - the obstacles were somewhere between easy and medium (I missed the rope climb, and the rings and a few others), but the running was murder.  
I’m beat.

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-diet-and-fitness-thread/776778/80 "2017-02-26T04:31:06Z")

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I started the CrossFit Open today - scaled. The opening workout was brutal, it took me about 2 hours to stop hacking and coughing. Also, I came up short. I hit the time cap (20 min) with 7 dumbbell snatches and 15 burpee box jump-overs to go.

Workout 17.1  
For time:  
10 dumbbell snatches  
15 burpee box jump-overs  
20 dumbbell snatches  
15 burpee box jump-overs  
30 dumbbell snatches  
15 burpee box jump-overs  
40 dumbbell snatches  
15 burpee box jump-overs  
50 dumbbell snatches  
15 burpee box jump-overs

On the bright side, I showed up and did my best. I had nothing left to give, and I could not possibly have done better.

So far, down about 3.5 inches in my waist. I don’t weigh myself, so I have no idea on weight.

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