# 2017 Virginia Gov. race:  Gillespie (R) vs. Northam (D)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 14, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920 "2017-06-14T02:52:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/101 "2017-11-08T01:27:01Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Looking at the NY Times site, I counted 14 GOP incumbents trailing, some by a lot.

Dems leading in 51 of the state races. Yipes.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/102 "2017-11-08T01:27:41Z")

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NYTimes blog [dial-thingy](https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/virginia-governor-election-gillespie-northam?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news) has Northam winning by ~9.

If so, **WOW!**

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/103 "2017-11-08T01:30:20Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Well, looks like the first major verdict on Don the Con has been rendered. Bigly. Sad!

2020 is in 3 years.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/104 "2017-11-08T01:31:55Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> 2020 is in 3 years.

2018 in one. Remove his toadies , remove his claws.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/105 "2017-11-08T01:32:51Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> 2020 is in 3 years.

He’ll be gone long before then.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/106 "2017-11-08T01:33:02Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> 2018 in one. Remove his toadies , remove his claws.

I read that as “toesies” and was surprised at you!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/107 "2017-11-08T01:33:53Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> 2020 is in 3 years.

Great! Imagine the landslide after 3 more years of incompetence and after the impeachment, criminal trial, and conviction. Nancy Pelosi needs to start building up those gavel-wielding biceps.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/108 "2017-11-08T01:37:06Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I read that as “toesies” and was surprised at you!

My first pass with voice to text wrote, “remove his tongue.” I already went to some effort to fix that post.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/109 "2017-11-08T01:39:23Z")

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The news channels are reporting a great election night for dems, and making some big calls.

Fox news has got Tucker Carlson and a crawl both ignoring the news. How blatant can they get?

Can you imagine one of the regular TV “news” orgs of the 20th century breaking with custom and reality that way? Who are they pissing on, dems or their audience?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/110 "2017-11-08T01:41:07Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Dems leading in 51 of the state races. Yipes.

If many of those are HoR races, that might doom the most bestest tax cut in the entire universe!! #mega-sad

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/111 "2017-11-08T01:43:02Z")

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In very important news in my line of business, the Medicaid expansion is winning on the Maine ballot.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/112 "2017-11-08T01:47:51Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> The news channels are reporting a great election night for dems, and making some big calls.
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> Fox news has got Tucker Carlson and a crawl both ignoring the news. How blatant can they get?
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> Can you imagine one of the regular TV “news” orgs of the 20th century breaking with custom and reality that way? Who are they pissing on, dems or their audience?

Well, I’ll tell ya… I have a little private theory about that.

I despise, detest and loathe Fox “News” in a way that defies description, because I have long held them responsible for propagandizing a significant number of our populace into believing things that are simply not based in fact. For years, they were subtle about it.

Not so since Trump “won.” They’ve completely jumped the shark and now act as a mouthpiece for Trump propaganda 24/7. They unashamedly tell bald faced lies to their audience and ignore significant truths.

Thank fuck, we still have a comparatively free press in this country. The truth will out. I think most Americans will tire of getting spanked by facts and will gradually begin to repudiate the propaganda network. It will take time, but I believe we still have a chance to rescue our country from the well-heeled demagogues.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/113 "2017-11-08T01:48:41Z")

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Lol, Fearless Leader just tweeted (and now he has 280 in which to embarrass himself):

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> Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!

> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/928074747316928513>

Gillespies team is turning on Trump too.

Oh, and a transgender candidate won in a VA House District that was GOP +13 back in 2015.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/114 "2017-11-08T01:48:52Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> In very important news in my line of business, the Medicaid expansion is winning on the Maine ballot.

I am so, so happy to hear that!!!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/115 "2017-11-08T02:00:07Z")

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This is going to be an 8-10 point win for Northam, plus Dem holds for Lieut-Gov and AG, and a decent chance at taking the House of Delegates. Just an amazing night for Democrats. Wow!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/116 "2017-11-08T02:18:39Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Lol, Fearless Leader just tweeted (and now he has 280 in which to embarrass himself):
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/928074747316928513)
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> Gillespies team is turning on Trump too.
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> Oh, and a transgender candidate won in a VA House District that was GOP +13 back in 2015.

He prefers candidates that win.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/117 "2017-11-08T02:19:20Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I am so, so happy to hear that!!!

It’s a big deal. If Dems can take the VA house of delegates (they have a chance, I’m not sure how good a chance), then VA might flip, too. It’s coverage for about 90,000 low-income adults in Maine, more like… hmm… I don’t actually remember the number in VA. But lots more than 90,000.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/118 "2017-11-08T02:21:55Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Oh, and a transgender candidate won in a VA House District that was GOP +13 back in 2015.

Over a disgusting bigot, so it’s even sweeter.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/119 "2017-11-08T02:23:05Z")

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Fuck the centre, Dem party now needs to go the full socialist for 2020 🙂

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2017-virginia-gov-race-gillespie-r-vs-northam-d/788920/120 "2017-11-08T02:23:39Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> The news channels are reporting a great election night for dems, and making some big calls.
> 
> Fox news has got Tucker Carlson and a crawl both ignoring the news. How blatant can they get?
> 
> Can you imagine one of the regular TV “news” orgs of the 20th century breaking with custom and reality that way? Who are they pissing on, dems or their audience?

I don’t know about you, but I’m just riveted by the preparatory remarks as Trump enters the Korean General Assembly. Who cares about some stinkin’ domestic election! This KO-re-an shit is must see TV!!

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