# 2018 Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot (With voting!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [November 21, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280 "2017-11-21T14:35:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/141 "2018-01-22T17:48:01Z")
Here’s a thought. Instead of (just) penalizing players who were known to have used PED, perhaps there should also be rewards for having been known to have not used PED. Because that makes the accomplishments that much greater. If you were a pitcher/hitter who did not use PED facing an array of players who were largely users, then whatever statistical and ranking accomplishments you managed to accomplish would have to compare favorably with players of other eras who had similar accomplishments while not facing a rigged opposition. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/142 "2018-01-22T17:49:47Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > perhaps there should also be rewards for having been known to have not used PED. Great. Who were they? _And how do you know?_ ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/143 "2018-01-22T18:21:45Z")
Well, we only managed to elect Chipper Jones and just barely. :smack: The Hall of Fame voting results come out Wednesday. From the [Vote Tracker](http://bit.ly/hof18) it seems a certainty that Thome and Guerrero will be joining Jones. Edgar Martinez and Trevor Hoffman also have a shot. It’s nice to see Mussina moving up too. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/144 "2018-01-22T19:09:40Z")
That would lend to my theory they’re getting enough guys in, but unless Mussina is elected, the lack of pitchers will continue. Vlad is actually a relatively so-so candidate. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/145 "2018-01-22T19:23:18Z")
Guerrero just _looked_ like a Hall of Famer. His candidacy is weaker than Larry Walker, to be fair. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/146 "2018-01-25T00:55:21Z")
So Chipper Jones, Jim Thome, Vlad Guerrero and Trevor Hoffman. I don’t love Hoffman getting in but I like the other 3. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/147 "2018-01-25T14:04:15Z")
Hoffman is a terrible selection - there are 50 pitchers more deserving who aren’t in - but he was inevitable so I’ve come to grips with that. Jones, Thome and Guerrero are worthy though they aren’t the three most worthy; there were more deserving players than Thome and Guerrero, and I’m not even getting into the continued snubs of Clemens and Bonds, which is just stupid. Barry Bonds had a greater career before he started taking steroids than Jim Thome’s entire career. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/148 "2018-01-25T14:12:24Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Hoffman is a terrible selection - there are 50 pitchers more deserving who aren’t in - but he was inevitable so I’ve come to grips with that. Same here. I rationalize it by saying that for the voters that think he was Hall worthy, at least they can stop wasting votes on him and put Edgar in next year. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/149 "2018-01-25T18:47:51Z")
I’m glad that I don’t really care about the HoF anymore. Ten or fifteen years ago I would have seriously considered a trip to Cooperstown but there’s no way that’s happening now. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/150 "2018-01-25T19:57:36Z")
The Hall of Fame is awesome. If you are a baseball fan you owe it to yourself to go. The Hall of Fame (as in the place where players are enshrined) is a small part of the Hall of Fame (as in the museum.) It’s a wonderful museum for baseball. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/151 "2018-01-25T22:26:45Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The Hall of Fame is awesome. If you are a baseball fan you owe it to yourself to go. > > The Hall of Fame (as in the place where players are enshrined) is a small part of the Hall of Fame (as in the museum.) It’s a wonderful museum for baseball. Agreed. Cooperstown is also a quaint little place (maybe not on event weekends…) with a nice lake and a great brewery. All round great place to visit. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/152 "2018-01-26T12:21:10Z")
I really enjoyed my visit and there were enough other things to do in the area to keep my wife happy. I didn’t know about the brewery though. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280/153 "2018-01-26T18:20:08Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I really enjoyed my visit and there were enough other things to do in the area to keep my wife happy. I didn’t know about the brewery though. [Ommegang Brewery.](http://www.ommegang.com/#!our_brewery) I’ve never been to the brewery but I’ve had a few of their beers and they’re quite good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-voting/802280.md?page=7)