# 2018 Death Pool: Discussion about Rules Changes **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** death-pool\ **Created:** [November 11, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328 "2017-11-11T15:20:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/41 "2017-11-17T01:49:17Z")
As the Death Shroom said his mastery of the 2018 game has my blessing. I’m having computer problems and Dopers may have noticed I haven’t been on the Dope much. I’m debating what new kind of computer to get, maybe someone can PM recommendations. Computers are like cars to me, I can drive them but know little about what makes them tick. All I need is something simple, so I can watch Youtube videos, surf the Net, and play on the Dope. Assuming I get set up well I may do a hostile takeover for 2019!😛 ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/42 "2017-11-17T01:54:50Z")
I’ll back your coup attempt, Baker. To the Death! er… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/43 "2017-11-17T02:43:50Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > I like this idea, and will include it as an option for 2018: Submit your list via Private Message Challenges will come after the submission deadline. I thought Jaqwis Dancy was a popular super hero football player. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/44 "2017-11-17T23:52:19Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Not a big fan of themed lists. If the rule change does pass, I would suggest that the themed lists be run as a separate thread. 2018 Death Pool (Themed), or something like that. How would having it in one thread affect you or anyone? Some longer posts or 2 posts from some people in the beginning. A separate category at the end. The usual tasteless jokes in the middle. Not really anything different for the players but some extra work for the death master. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/45 "2017-11-18T00:07:06Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > I like this idea, and will include it as an option for 2018: Submit your list via Private Message I really dislike this idea. The should be an incentive to be the first person to list a pick for the year to counter the disincentive of having your picks stolen by others, and all picks by all persons should be public, IMO. But I’m on board with all the changes listed in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/46 "2017-11-18T00:13:15Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > I’ll back your coup attempt, Baker. To the Death! er… As an evil overlord you will be my 1st lieutenant. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/47 "2017-11-18T00:52:26Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > As an evil overlord you will be my 1st lieutenant. Fine. I’ll be your chopped liver gopher. Oye. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/48 "2017-11-18T00:53:29Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > How would having it in one thread affect you or anyone? Some longer posts or 2 posts from some people in the beginning. A separate category at the end. The usual tasteless jokes in the middle. Not really anything different for the players but some extra work for the death master. Yeah. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/49 "2017-11-18T00:54:08Z")
Thanks Baker! (I like chopped liver…) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/50 "2017-11-18T01:10:26Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > Thanks Baker! (I like chopped liver…) Fine. You have an unusual appearance, and your Mother selects strange clothing for you. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/51 "2017-11-18T01:14:16Z")
Huh? How’d you know I nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/52 "2017-11-18T04:10:22Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > To eliminate the problem of people “jumping on the bandwagon” and copying other people’s submissions (and as a consequence, the posting of so many submissions late on December 31st) why not have the submissions made privately via PM? > > This has probably been suggested before but I have never participated in a death pool so I’m not up on this stuff. I like the idea in theory, but how do all those lists get posted on the Board? Does **phungi** post dozens of private messages on January 1? Is there simply a master database with all the picks on it posted on January 1? Or do we never get to see everyone’s lists and have to be satisfied with a monthly points update? ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/53 "2017-11-18T09:52:35Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > I like the idea in theory, but how do all those lists get posted on the Board? Does **phungi** post dozens of private messages on January 1? Is there simply a master database with all the picks on it posted on January 1? Or do we never get to see everyone’s lists and have to be satisfied with a monthly points update? Oh no! Everyone simply must see the other entries (once the entry deadline has passed), that’s part of the fun! I imagine the main organizer could list all the individual entries after the deadline passes. Someone here mentioned some Google thing that might help. I didn’t understand that but anything that would automate the process and help the organizer would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/54 "2017-11-18T10:01:50Z")
> [@Eliahna](#): > > I really dislike this idea. The should be an incentive to be the first person to list a pick for the year to counter the disincentive of having your picks stolen by others, and all picks by all persons should be public, IMO. Using the PM method there IS a big incentive to coming up with a particularly good death candidate\* and it doesn’t matter when you do it because no one else can see that you made that pick. So if you come up with a really clever one, no one can copy off of your brilliant idea and that’s worth a LOT. If TPTB insisted on some bonus for picking a death candidate first that determination could be made by looking through the order in which the entry PM’s were sent. But really, if no one is allowed to be lazy and copy off others then there isn’t any need to be concerned with who picked someone first. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/55 "2017-11-18T13:47:32Z")
I did offer a few posts ago to create a Google Form instead of requiring the mod to go through a bunch of PM’s. Is that not helpful? It would generate a spreadsheet for the game moderator and keep our lists secret until January 1. ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/56 "2017-11-18T13:59:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I did offer a few posts ago to create a Google Form instead of requiring the mod to go through a bunch of PM’s. Is that not helpful? It would generate a spreadsheet for the game moderator and keep our lists secret until January 1. I LOVE this idea, especially if we can finalize the submissions after Jan 1 and then open access or make the final postings public. Also, all 'dopers can share their own lists AFTER Jan 1 deadline has passed. One question/problem: how do we handle the posting of revisions prior to the Jan 1 deadline? ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/57 "2017-11-18T14:03:14Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > As the Death Shroom said his mastery of the 2018 game has my blessing. I’m having computer problems and Dopers may have noticed I haven’t been on the Dope much. I’m debating what new kind of computer to get, maybe someone can PM recommendations. Computers are like cars to me, I can drive them but know little about what makes them tick. All I need is something simple, so I can watch Youtube videos, surf the Net, and play on the Dope. > > Assuming I get set up well I may do a hostile takeover for 2019!😛 Having used both PCs and Macs since the damned things were invented, I always recommend getting a Macintosh, especially if the extra $$$ isn’t an issue. That said, if you are not “interacting” in the form of downloading/uploading/storing, a Tablet may be the way to go (YouTube, Internet, email, etc)… ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/58 "2017-11-19T07:12:07Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > I would prefer any themed list game to take place in a separate thread, so as not to further complicate the primary death pool. I am going to go along with this suggestion. I like the idea of a theme and non-theme list and would submit both but “The Themed List must have a name different than the 'Doper’s SDMB profile name” could become an issue if someone creates a sock or comes up with some otherwise creative idea of how to have a different name. Yeah, you can spell out just how you want it but some of us are going to screw it up anyway. Maybe it would be a lot easier to have a Celebrity Death Pool 2018 thread and a Themed Celebrity Death Pool 2018 thread Most reports of demises would probably be in the former (or not) but the latter would get its own scorecard. Also for those of us slow on the up-take and abnormally thick at 2:06 in the AM maybe ask/require that the person submitting tell us just what the darn theme is. I have one in the works for “A Bridge Too Far Over the River Styx” with actors and actresses from said movie that are still alive. But for someone to figure that out just from the list of names? From that it would just look like a random assortment of Hollywood characters. Inquiring minds want to know just how other brains operate ----- without all the messy kidnapping-and-sawing-off-the-top-of-a-persons-head stuff. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/59 "2017-11-29T00:07:02Z")
There should a be a posting rule that prohibits posts [like this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20628355&postcount=1924) in the Death Pool thread I don’t see a reason why posters can’t put a name and a brief bio about the dead person in the post. With posts like this one, I got to open up yet another tab and read about some person that I might not give a rats patootie about. And then close it. /rant-over ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328/60 "2017-11-29T01:44:07Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > There should a be a posting rule that prohibits posts [like this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20628355&postcount=1924) in the Death Pool thread > > I don’t see a reason why posters can’t put a name and a brief bio about the dead person in the post. With posts like this one, I got to open up yet another tab and read about some person that I might not give a rats patootie about. And then close it. > > /rant-over Meh. He should have told us who and what he was talking about, but the name was in the link. Points is points. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-death-pool-discussion-about-rules-changes/801328.md?page=4)