# 2018 Election Day Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 6, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079 "2018-11-06T15:43:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/362 "2018-11-07T03:47:29Z")

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The predix this time around seem to be fairly accurate; i.e. Pubs keeping the Senate and Dems gaining the house. This is reasonably satisfactory; at least there is now some chance that the House will provide some sort of checks and balances against our wannabe dictatorial administration.

Would have liked to have seen Beto prevail over Cruz, but even coming within 2-3 points (a Democrat! In Texas!) is still quite an accomplishment.

Feeling a bit better that there is some sanity amongst the electorate after all. off to bed.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/363 "2018-11-07T03:47:36Z")

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Assuming Dem House control, MSNBC says House committees with request Trump’s tax returns from the IRS.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/364 "2018-11-07T03:48:05Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> No it’s not.
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> I think MSNBC is better than FOX News and somewhat more inclined to fair reporting but they have very purposely chosen to stake out the polar opposite of FOX News figuring that is a good place to make money.

I’m in between youse’s views: I think in its opinion it is everything that conservatives complain about in the liberal media and is indeed close (but I don’t watch it enough to tell for sure) to the opposite spin that FOX puts on things. However, I don’t recall them deliberately speculating on actual falsehoods that much (in the vein of the “what if X happened?” =\> “some people are saying X happened?” =\> “pundit: X happened!” loop) unlike Fox. Which is of course itself a substantial distance from actual fake news made up out of whole cloth.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/365 "2018-11-07T03:50:12Z")

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Van Jones says he is heart broken? Why?

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**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/366 "2018-11-07T03:50:36Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> Can someone explain why everyone is so sure Dems will take the House? I’m not up on the nitty gritty but it seems that we’re neck and neck with 2/3 of the vote in. What am I missing?

Looking at [What Went Down In The 2018 Midterms | FiveThirtyEight](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2018-election-results-coverage/?ex_cid=extra_banner) the called seats are R-141 D-138. But for the uncalled seats, the Democratic-leaning seats outnumber the Republican ones by a margin of 88 to 58, with 10 additional tossup seats.

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**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/367 "2018-11-07T03:51:40Z")

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Argh, NJ polls closed almost 3 hours ago, why can’t my county report the damn results?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/368 "2018-11-07T03:51:54Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> So, they are equivalent except that they are inclined to be fair? That’s not being equivalent.

If you cannot spot the [MSNBC liberal bias](https://www.businessinsider.com/most-biased-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-nytimes-2018-8#1-fox-news-51-tie-1) I don’t know what else to tell you. You are like a liberal [dittohead](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ditto%20head).

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/369 "2018-11-07T03:52:07Z")

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> [@Moe](#):
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> Though I’ll feel a lot better once 538 does the same. They’re at 88% which I think is about where we started.

94%

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/370 "2018-11-07T03:52:40Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> At this point looks like an actual wave (at least 30 seat gain) for the Dems in the House, and a loss of 1-3 Senate seats, which is quite an odd mix.

Not at all. A.) I wouldn’t call +30 a wave, I believe it’s actually below the average loss for a President’s incumbent party in a mid-term election. Maybe +40 would be more wave-like. B.) The Democrats had an awful map this year. They were always very unlikely to take the Senate - if they only take a net loss of 2 or 3, that isn’t all that bad( they may lose more ).

If the results tend up holding at +30ish for the Ds and control of the House and -2 or -3 in the Senate, that is still an modesty victory under the circumstances. On the other hand if the Republicans hold the House, no matter how narrow their margin of victory and how small their new majority is, that is a de facto defeat for the Ds.

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/371 "2018-11-07T03:53:37Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> No it’s not.
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> I think MSNBC is better than FOX News and somewhat more inclined to fair reporting but they have very purposely chosen to stake out the polar opposite of FOX News figuring that is a good place to make money.

I watch MSNBC pretty much daily. On any given day I probably watch more people who identify as conservative than liberal. (Joe Scarborough (15 hours of programming/wk), Nicole Wallace, Steve Schmidt, Bill Crystal, Rick Tyler, and a ton other I can’t think of right now.

I have never, not once, seen a segment on MSNBC that was motivated by a political agenda. Maybe a liberal bias, but they are in no way, shape, or form, agenda-driven propaganda.

I really hope we can retire this ridiculous meme.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/372 "2018-11-07T03:53:51Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> The predix this time around seem to be fairly accurate; i.e. Pubs keeping the Senate and Dems gaining the house. This is reasonably satisfactory; at least there is now some chance that the House will provide some sort of checks and balances against our wannabe dictatorial administration.
> 
> Would have liked to have seen Beto prevail over Cruz, but even coming within 2-3 points (a Democrat! In Texas!) is still quite an accomplishment.
> 
> Feeling a bit better that there is some sanity amongst the electorate after all. off to bed.

Beto’s coattails still helped. It looks like Pete Sessions (Tx-32) is gone–last time he ran unopposed. TX-7 may flip, too. It also looks like several seats in the TX legislature have flipped. The state isn’t purple yet, but the blue pockets are spreading. Beto’s campaign did a lot to energize them, and helping flip two house seats isn’t nothing.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/373 "2018-11-07T03:54:21Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> If you cannot spot the [MSNBC liberal bias](https://www.businessinsider.com/most-biased-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-nytimes-2018-8#1-fox-news-51-tie-1) I don’t know what else to tell you. You are like a liberal [dittohead](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ditto%20head).

Unlike Fox, MSNBC is usually reasonably truthful and accurate. And their partisans (Matthews, Hayes, Maddow, Scarborough, etc.) don’t come close to Hannity, Ingraham, and Carlson for bigotry, idiocy, inaccuracy, and general stupidity.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/374 "2018-11-07T03:55:01Z")

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CNN still hasn’t called the House for the Dems.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/375 "2018-11-07T03:55:48Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> Beto’s coattails still helped. It looks like Pete Sessions (Tx-32) is gone–last time he ran unopposed. TX-7 may flip, too. It also looks like several seats in the TX legislature have flipped. The state isn’t purple yet, but the blue pockets are spreading. Beto’s campaign did a lot to energize them, and helping flip two house seats isn’t nothing.

Exactly. That’s not just a moral victory, that’s a full-blown win. IF the Democrats will follow up in 2020 with what O’Rourke did.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/376 "2018-11-07T03:56:01Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> If you cannot spot the [MSNBC liberal bias](https://www.businessinsider.com/most-biased-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-nytimes-2018-8#1-fox-news-51-tie-1) I don’t know what else to tell you. You are like a liberal [dittohead](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ditto%20head).

That cite doesn’t say what you say it says (just because Republicans called MSNBC biased doesn’t make it true. Considering they elected Donald Trump president, I reckon their opinion is nonsense).

And Obama was the first time I voted for a Democrat for president. So, neither sentence is based in fact.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/377 "2018-11-07T03:56:33Z")

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ABC just called the house for blue! Yay!

And Steve King is losing!

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/378 "2018-11-07T03:58:22Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> CNN still hasn’t called the House for the Dems.

They have been paying attention to Nathaniel Rakich

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/379 "2018-11-07T03:58:48Z")

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538 goes to 100% for Democratic House! Yay!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/380 "2018-11-07T03:59:29Z")

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For those looking for signs & potents, I’ll be very interested to see the vote totals countrywide: how many people voted for Democrats, how many for Republicans. I imagine it’ll be blue by a significant amount – which says things about where the country is, without the factors of geography and gerrymandering.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/381 "2018-11-07T03:59:37Z")

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Gillum concedes to DeSantis in FL!!!

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