# 2018 Election Day Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 6, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079 "2018-11-06T15:43:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/622 "2018-11-11T00:49:29Z")

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Sinema’s lead is now up to 28,673 over McSally. Fingers crossed that this holds through the remaining couple of hundred thousand votes to be counted.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/623 "2018-11-11T02:16:33Z")

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[Recounts ordered in Florida Senate, governor races](https://apnews.com/8a88ef6f5eb846c9911e8e491324a766):

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> Secretary Ken Detzner issued the order after the unofficial results in both races fell within the margin that by law triggers a recount. His office was unaware of any other time either a race for governor or U.S. Senate in Florida required a recount, let alone both in the same election.

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> The unofficial results show that Republican former U.S. Rep. Ron DeSantis led Democratic Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum by 0.41 percentage points in the election for governor.
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> In the Senate race, Republican Gov. Rick Scott’s lead over Democratic incumbent Bill Nelson is 0.14 percentage points.

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> Following the announcement, Gillum withdrew his concession in the governor’s race.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/624 "2018-11-11T02:18:01Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Sinema’s lead is now up to 28,673 over McSally. Fingers crossed that this holds through the remaining couple of hundred thousand votes to be counted.

Very likely as most votes to be counted come from places with more Blue voters, such as Maricopa county [Phoenix and surrounding areas] and Pima County [Mostly Tucson]

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/625 "2018-11-11T03:18:57Z")

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It is official now: the Putin boot licker and science ignoramus is toast:

> **[California’s 48th House District Election Results: Harley Rouda vs. Dana...](https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/california-house-district-48)**
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> See full results and maps from the California midterm elections.

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> California’s 48th House District Election Results: Harley Rouda vs. Dana Rohrabacher
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> Harley Rouda has won the election, according to A.P.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/626 "2018-11-11T13:41:43Z")

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Sinema now leads McSally by 29,832 votes.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/627 "2018-11-12T01:27:25Z")

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And there were two lead changes in the AZ Secretary of State race today. The GOP candidate is back on top, but by a mere 259 votes.

ETA: Dave Wasserman (Cook Political Report) projects Sinema as the winner, says this race has been over for days.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/628 "2018-11-12T04:40:43Z")

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Some idiot Tweeted, "WOW. The AZ election official destroying evidence to cook the books for @kyrstensinema defended narco-terrorists.

Now it’s all making sense why he’s stretching the rules for Kyrsten “I Don’t Care If Americans Join The Taliban” Sinema."

> <https://twitter.com/CalvinMoore_/status/1061348977520582660>

An Jeff Flake replied (remember, this was his seat): “There is no evidence of election officials “cooking the books” in Arizona. Such careless language undermines confidence in our democratic institutions.”

> <https://twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/1061688036910452737>
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> Calvin Moore @CalvinMoore\_

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/629 "2018-11-12T18:42:29Z")

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Twitler says Florida ballots are “massively infected”: [Donald Trump: End Florida recount with ballots 'massively infected'](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/12/donald-trump-end-florida-recount/1974649002/)

Since he’s something of a pathogen in the American body politic, he should know.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/630 "2018-11-13T00:54:26Z")

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[AZ called for Sinema](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/414604-sinema-defeats-mcsally-in-key-arizona-senate-race).

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/631 "2018-11-13T00:58:45Z")

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Her lead is nearly 40k and has done little other than expand.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/632 "2018-11-13T01:06:57Z")

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I think winning the House was the easy part; the more complicated task is going to be uniting the party behind a presidential candidate. There are different ideas of what the democratic party should be, and which face should represent it. In the end, they’ll have to agree to be anti-Trump first and face of the party second.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/633 "2018-11-13T14:06:15Z")

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The Republican candidate has conceded in the Arizona US Senate race: [Kyrsten Sinema victory flips Arizona Senate seat to Democrats | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/politics/sinema-arizona-senate-race/index.html)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/634 "2018-11-13T14:53:32Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I think winning the House was the easy part; the more complicated task is going to be uniting the party behind a presidential candidate.

2016 was the first time since Carter in 1980 that it was hard to unite the party behind the candidate. And the only reason it was hard in 2016 was that Bernie was a dog in the manger about the whole thing.

Bernie will be a footnote in 2020. I don’t see a reason to expect difficulties in uniting behind a candidate.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/635 "2018-11-13T14:58:47Z")

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Katie Hobbs, the Dem nominee, [now leads](http://ktar.com/story/2305583/democrat-katie-hobbs-takes-lead-in-arizona-secretary-of-state-race/) in the AZ Secretary of State race by over 5,600 votes.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/636 "2018-11-13T18:36:40Z")

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A FB post claims that Chatham County, Georgia ‘reported no mail-in ballots’. It shows a tweet by ‘Tiff Whit’ that says, ‘My absentee ballot just showed back up in my mailbox today. It says “return to sender… not deliverable as addressed… unable to forward”. How is the pre-addressed PO Box not a deliverable address?’ There is a photo of the envelope, marked 11PM on November 2nd, with a label that ostensibly has the return stamp. (I don’t see anything that shows it has been returned, though I suppose the poster would not have taken a picture of it if it hadn’t been.)

I tried to find a news article about this, but was unsuccessful. Has anybody fact-checked this?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/637 "2018-11-13T19:38:13Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> A FB post claims that Chatham County, Georgia ‘reported no mail-in ballots’. It shows a tweet by ‘Tiff Whit’ that says, ‘My absentee ballot just showed back up in my mailbox today. It says “return to sender… not deliverable as addressed… unable to forward”. How is the pre-addressed PO Box not a deliverable address?’ There is a photo of the envelope, marked 11PM on November 2nd, with a label that ostensibly has the return stamp. (I don’t see anything that shows it has been returned, though I suppose the poster would not have taken a picture of it if it hadn’t been.)
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> I tried to find a news article about this, but was unsuccessful. Has anybody fact-checked this?

I read a story about that on my phone this morning, but I can’t find it now.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/638 "2018-11-13T19:58:31Z")

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Utah 4th district the Dem challenger was up by 7k votes last Tues but now his lead is just 1k. The rest of the votes are coming from more Dem areas so he may be able to hold on and win.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/639 "2018-11-13T19:58:33Z")

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Maine incumbent Republican Congressman Bruce Poliquin is suing because he’s losing in the ranked choice voting system, calling Maine’s ranked choice vote count system unconstitutional. Funny he didn’t complain before the election.

> **[In Tight Race, Maine Republican Sues To Block State's Ranked-Choice Voting Law](https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667435326/facing-defeat-maine-republican-sues-to-block-states-ranked-choice-voting-law)**
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> Rep. Bruce Poliquin's lawsuit claims the state's ranked-choice voting law violates the U.S. Constitution because the candidate who gets the most votes may not ultimately be declared the winner.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/640 "2018-11-13T21:38:44Z")

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A county judge in Florida [ordered the recount extended](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/416512-judge-orders-recount-extended-for-pbc-to-nov-20) for 5 additional days in Palm Beach.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/641 "2018-11-13T21:41:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Maine incumbent Republican Congressman Bruce Poliquin is suing because he’s losing in the ranked choice voting system, calling Maine’s ranked choice vote count system unconstitutional. Funny he didn’t complain before the election.  
> [In Tight Race, Maine Republican Sues To Block State's Ranked-Choice Voting Law : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667435326/facing-defeat-maine-republican-sues-to-block-states-ranked-choice-voting-law)

Actually, if I understand correctly, he did complain; he was the only candidate who refused in advance to voluntarily accept the results of ranked choice.

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