# 2018 Election Day Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 6, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079 "2018-11-06T15:43:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/642 "2018-11-13T23:01:50Z")

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At least Trump’s [taking it well](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-absent-20181113-story.html).

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/643 "2018-11-13T23:05:47Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Maine incumbent Republican Congressman Bruce Poliquin is suing because he’s losing in the ranked choice voting system, calling Maine’s ranked choice vote count system unconstitutional. Funny he didn’t complain before the election.  
> [In Tight Race, Maine Republican Sues To Block State's Ranked-Choice Voting Law : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667435326/facing-defeat-maine-republican-sues-to-block-states-ranked-choice-voting-law)

So is that ‘is losing’ or ‘has lost’ under the ranked choice method?

I’ll yield to DSY or any other lawyer in this thread, but I don’t think he can sue until he’s lost under that method, since that’s the point at which he can demonstrate that harm has been done to him by it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/644 "2018-11-14T00:06:51Z")

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Although maybe not the beneficiaries of a Blue Wave, Dems did better in the US Senate than some might think: [Even in the Senate, 2018 looks like other wave years for Democrats | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/politics/senate-democratic-wave-analysis/index.html)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/645 "2018-11-14T01:14:07Z")

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Katie Porter [now leads](https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1062510738227388416) Mimi Walters in CA-45 for the first time, by 261 votes.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/646 "2018-11-14T01:22:07Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Katie Porter [now leads](https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1062510738227388416) Mimi Walters in CA-45 for the first time, by 261 votes.

And Cisneros is only 700 votes behind Young Kim in CA-39. Assuming Cisneros eventually wins, which he probably will, there will be no Republican representatives from Orange County. Imagine that. This isn’t a blue wave, it’s a blue tsunami!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/647 "2018-11-14T02:38:36Z")

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[Democrat Harder ousts California GOP US Rep. Denham](https://apnews.com/3443766d610046a2bd57b70d2c03c7ee)

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> First-time candidate Josh Harder defeated four-term Republican U.S. Rep. Jeff Denham following an updated vote count Tuesday, giving Democrats their fourth pickup of a GOP House seat in California.

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> With votes continuing to be counted, Harder’s edge has grown after Denham grabbed a slim lead on Election Day. After the latest update, Harder had a 4,919-vote lead out of about 185,000 votes counted, a margin too large for the congressman to overcome with remaining votes.

😃

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/648 "2018-11-14T02:57:56Z")

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The rest of the country wasn’t quite as bad for them I know, but I can’t quite find the right word to describe what happened to the Republicans in California in this election. Crushed. Destroyed. Annihilated.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/649 "2018-11-14T03:47:28Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> The rest of the country wasn’t quite as bad for them I know, but I can’t quite find the right word to describe what happened to the Republicans in California in this election. Crushed. Destroyed. Annihilated.

Before we get too self-congratulatory about the far-sighted wisdom of the California voter (of whom I am one), let’s recall 2 California Republicans who didn’t drown in the wave: Devin Nunes, Trump’s errand boy on the Intelligence Committee; and Duncan Hunter, who is (a) under indictment and (b) ran a blatantly racist xenophobic anti-Muslim campaign.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/650 "2018-11-14T04:31:44Z")

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Democrat Josh Harder has been declared the winner over incumbent Republican Jeff Harder in CA-10.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/651 "2018-11-14T04:39:52Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Democrat Josh Harder has been declared the winner over incumbent Republican Jeff Harder in CA-10.

Jeff _Denham_. Though it would be amusing if they were in fact paternal twins vying for the same seat ;).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/652 "2018-11-14T05:12:32Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Jeff _Denham_. Though it would be amusing if they were in fact paternal twins vying for the same seat ;).

LOL

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/653 "2018-11-14T05:16:11Z")

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As if this campaign season hasn’t been bizarre enough…

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/654 "2018-11-14T19:46:31Z")

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Dem Andy Kim has beaten 2-term incumbent Republican Tom MacArthur for NJ03 according to Bloomberg:

[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-14/ap-newsalert-political-newcomer-andy-kim-defeats-two-term-republican-rep-tom-macarthur-in-new-jersey-to-widen-democrats](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-14/ap-newsalert-political-newcomer-andy-kim-defeats-two-term-republican-rep-tom-macarthur-in-new-jersey-to-widen-democrats)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/655 "2018-11-14T20:30:33Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Dem Andy Kim has beaten 2-term incumbent Republican Tom MacArthur for NJ03 according to Bloomberg:
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> [Andy Kim Wins New Jersey 3rd District Election 2018: Results - Bloomberg](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-14/ap-newsalert-political-newcomer-andy-kim-defeats-two-term-republican-rep-tom-macarthur-in-new-jersey-to-widen-democrats)

Leaving only one Republican Congressmember from NJ.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/656 "2018-11-15T10:49:04Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Before we get too self-congratulatory about the far-sighted wisdom of the California voter (of whom I am one), let’s recall 2 California Republicans who didn’t drown in the wave: Devin Nunes, Trump’s errand boy on the Intelligence Committee; and Duncan Hunter, who is (a) under indictment and (b) ran a blatantly racist xenophobic anti-Muslim campaign.

In the category of “things I once said that I can now claim were accurate predictions while ignoring all the stuff I got wrong”, I mentioned ages ago that Trump’s deliberate punishing of California in various ways was going to have some blowback in the House elections. I’d still argue that was a factor this round - the Republicans have spent two years saying “fuck you” to California and Californians are returning the sentiment.

A pity about Nunes and Hunter. On the other hand, what happens if Hunter gets convicted? A by-election?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/657 "2018-11-15T11:10:14Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> On the other hand, what happens if Hunter gets convicted? A by-election?

Assuming he resigned or was expelled, yes. But that wouldn’t be automatic. I’d _think_ his party would press for him to quit or else, to save the embarrassment, but who knows any more. My congressman was convicted of several crimes in 2006, and he had to be threatened with expulsion before he agreed to resign, and he held off on actually doing it for a few weeks too. He was completely broke and was trying to collect as many paychecks as he could.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/658 "2018-11-15T13:59:30Z")

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They’re called special elections in the U.S., by the way.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/659 "2018-11-15T15:08:27Z")

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And not to be confused with Special Olympics which are, in many respects, quite different.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/660 "2018-11-15T16:11:46Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> And not to be confused with Special Olympics which are, in many respects, quite different.

And in some very un-PC ways, quite similar.

And sorry, I couldn’t remember what they were called off the top of my head.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-election-day-thread/824079/661 "2018-11-15T16:17:49Z")

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I’m rooting for Oliver St. John Mollusc.

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