# 2018 Mass Killings in the United States

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**Created:** [January 20, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029 "2018-01-20T07:14:59Z")\
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Mass killings in the United States.  
Four or more dead (including suicides)  
By a single killer  
By any criminal means

==2018==

1. 5 January 2018, Santa Clarita CA, 4 killed (shot) ([4 killed, including young boy, in shooting at Santa Clarita home](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-santa-clarita-shooting-20180105-story.html))
2. 8 January 2018 Galveston TX, 4 killed (shot) ([Mom suspected of shooting sons, husband before killing herself at San Luis Resort - ABC13 Houston](http://abc13.com/murder-suicide-at-san-luis-resort-leaves-family-of-4-dead/2912398/))
3. 18 January 2018 Calhoun County AL, 4 killed (shot) ([Calhoun Co. man kills children, daughter's fiance before killing himself](http://www.wbrc.com/story/37299290/calhoun-co-man-kills-children-daughters-fiance-before-killing-himself))

Incidents 3  
Killed 12

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/2 "2018-01-29T01:16:37Z")

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1. 28 January 2018 Melcroft PA, 5 killed (shot) ([Melcroft, PA - State Police: 5 Killed In Shooting At Pennsylvania Car Wash - VINnews](https://www.vosizneias.com/290190/2018/01/28/melcroft-pa-state-police-5-killed-in-shooting-at-pennsylvania-car-wash/))

Incidents 4  
Killed 16

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/3 "2018-01-29T13:42:49Z")

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Despite previous reports, #4 has four dead, not five. One is still in hospital. Also adding a new #5, assuming that there was only one killer.

1. 28 January 2018 Melcroft PA, 4 killed (shot) ([Melcroft, PA - State Police: 5 Killed In Shooting At Pennsylvania Car Wash - VINnews](https://www.vosizneias.com/290190/2018/01/28/melcroft-pa-state-police-5-killed-in-shooting-at-pennsylvania-car-wash/)) killer is in critical condition may not live

2. 29 January 2018 Reading PA, 4 killed (shot) ([Police: No suspects in shooting deaths of 4 men in Reading row home – The Morning Call](http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-pol-four-people-killed-in-reading-shooting-20180129-story.html)) ONE KILLER?  
Incidents 5

Killed 20

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/4 "2018-02-11T13:54:53Z")

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1. 10 February 2018 Johnson County KY, 5 killed (shot) ([Gunman kills four, then self in Kentucky: police | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-kentucky/five-killed-including-gunman-in-shooting-spree-in-kentucky-police-idUSKBN1FV07J))

Incidents 6  
Killed 25

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/5 "2018-02-15T01:12:05Z")

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1. 14 February 2018 Parkland FL, 17 killed (shot) ([Parkland, FL - Sheriff: 17 Dead In Shooting At High School In South Florida - VINnews](https://www.vosizneias.com/291498/2018/02/14/parkland-fl-abc-at-least-15-dead-in-florida-school-shooting/))  
Incidents 7  
Killed 42

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/6 "2018-02-16T02:32:17Z")

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[Vox article today](https://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook):

> [@](#):
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> In December 2012, a gunman walked into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, and killed 20 children, six adults, and himself. **Since then, there have been at least 1,607 mass shootings, with at least 1,846 people killed and 6,459 wounded**.
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> The counts come from the Gun Violence Archive, a database that tracks events since 2013 in which four or more people (not counting the shooter) were shot at the same general time and location. The database’s researchers comb through hundreds of news stories, police reports, and other sources each day and individually verify the reports. Still, since some shootings aren’t reported, the database is likely missing some shootings, and some are missing details. The count is also a constant work in progress, so some of the numbers and details may be slightly imprecise.

(bolding mine)

1607 mass shootings in 5 years. Almost 1846 dead. :eek:

[‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens](https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1820163660)

> **[Gun Violence Archive](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/)**
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> Near real-time tweets of American gun violence incidents. Non-profit. Non-advocacy. Just the facts.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/7 "2018-02-16T05:38:08Z")

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This list does not address mass shootings.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/8 "2018-02-16T20:00:43Z")

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No, it does address mass killings tho, and many of those shot are also killed. It’s just a source for information, eh.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/9 "2018-02-16T22:12:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> 1,607 mass shootings, with at least 1,846 people killed and 6,459 wounded.

That means an average of 1.15 dead per “mass” shooting, and an average of 4.02 wounded. Certainly not a good thing, but it looks like we have defined “mass” waaayyyy downward.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/10 "2018-02-16T22:20:33Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> That means an average of 1.15 dead per “mass” shooting, and an average of 4.02 wounded. Certainly not a good thing, but it looks like we have defined “mass” waaayyyy downward.

That’s an average of 5.2 killed or wounded per incident. What do you think the minimum of wounded and dead should be to qualify as “mass”? The FBI defines mass killings as 4 or more so I think 5.2 shot meets the definition of mass shooting (I’m assuming the 4.02 wounded were shot - maybe not true).

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/11 "2018-02-22T14:02:52Z")

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1. 16 February 2016 Keego Harbor MI, 4 killed (shot) ([Friends: Jehovah's Witnesses shunning drove mom to murder-suicide](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/))

Events: 8  
Killed: 46

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/12 "2018-02-27T13:26:23Z")

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1. 26 February 2018 Van Buren TWP MI, 4 killed (shot?) ([Suspect in gas station triple murder suspect dies by suicide in Ohio](http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/gas-station-triple-murder-suspect-spotted-in-van-buren-twp-after-carjacking))

Events: 9  
Killed: 50

In this case, five people died, but the Commissioner has ruled that the suicide does not count as it happened after a cooling-off period.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/13 "2018-03-10T07:00:44Z")

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This incident is posted presuming that the killer died by his own hand.

1. 9 March 2018 Yountville CA, 4 killed) (shot) ([Officials: 3 hostages, gunman dead after day-long standoff at Yountville veterans home - ABC7 San Francisco](http://abc7news.com/officials-3-hostages-gunman-dead-after-day-long-standoff-at-veterans-home/3196562/))  
Events: 10  
Killed: 54

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/14 "2018-03-10T22:25:43Z")

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Summary of mass killing casualties through 03/10/18, according to OP sources:

Maniacal Mass Killing Deaths:

Parkland 17

Other Mass Killing Deaths

Suicide: 8  
Direct Family or Partners of Suicides: 21  
Friends\Associates of Suicides: 3  
Bystanders to Suicides: 1  
Unsolved: 4

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/15 "2018-03-12T00:57:16Z")

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1. 11 March 2018 Mount Pleasant NC, (4 killed) (beaten) ([http://counton2.com/2018/03/10/suspect-in-quadruple-homicide-to-have-beaten-family-to-death/](http://counton2.com/2018/03/10/suspect-in-quadruple-homicide-to-have-beaten-family-to-death/))

Events: 11  
Killed: 58

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/16 "2018-03-12T01:11:48Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> This incident is posted presuming that the killer died by his own hand.
> 
> 1. 9 March 2018 Yountville CA, 4 killed) (shot) ([Officials: 3 hostages, gunman dead after day-long standoff at Yountville veterans home - ABC7 San Francisco](http://abc7news.com/officials-3-hostages-gunman-dead-after-day-long-standoff-at-veterans-home/3196562/))  
> Events: 10  
> Killed: 54

Actually, 5 died, because one of the women was 7 months pregnant. ☹

Where I live, if a fetus of any age dies in the commission of a crime, even if the mother makes a full recovery, the perpetrator can be charged with and convicted of “nonconsensual termination of a human pregnancy”.

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1. 13 March 2018 Spanaway WA, 4\* killed (Shot) ([Officials: U.S. Airman shoots toddlers, their mother before killing himself - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/officials-u-s-airman-shoots-toddlers-their-mother-before-killing-himself/))

Events: 12  
Killed: 62

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/18 "2018-03-14T15:48:31Z")

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1. 14 March 2018 Brooklyn NY, 4\* killed (shot) ([Dad shoots baby daughter, two men before killing himself](https://nypost.com/2018/03/14/toddler-among-four-shot-dead-in-brooklyn/))

Events: 13  
Killed: 66

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/19 "2018-04-02T13:58:30Z")

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1. 26 March 2018 near Westport CA, 8\* killed (vehicular homicide) ([http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article207648264.html](http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article207648264.html))  
Events: 14  
Killed: 75

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-mass-killings-in-the-united-states/807029/20 "2018-04-02T15:27:17Z")

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Isn’t that premature? The article says the police are looking into the possibility of suicide, but earlier have said they had no evidence the crash was intentional.

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